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201 Class Locomotives

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Especially 082 and 220, those two locos are the class leaders in causing a right racket.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Especially 082 and 220, those two locos are the class leaders in causing a right racket.

    Ah, so 220 is still going around unsilenced? :) I'm a bit out of the loop at the moment so wasn't aware.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Karsini wrote: »
    Ah, so 220 is still going around unsilenced? :) I'm a bit out of the loop at the moment so wasn't aware.

    Almost certain it has it's silencer refitted but it does it's best to pass itself off as an 071 when it can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,512 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Karsini wrote: »
    I remember a driver friend of mine saying to me that he loved nothing more than going through the centre road at Kildare in an 071 at notch 8, and watching the passengers cover their ears on either side.
    its nothing like the class 43 when they had the paxman valenta engine, had the pleasure of witnessing one departing 10 years ago at bridgend, beyond hellfire

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭metrovick001



    210 at Hazelhatch on 31-July-2005


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,300 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    8208 in Connolly operating in HEP mode on Enterprise duties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Jonathan wrote: »
    8208 in Connolly operating in HEP mode on Enterprise duties.

    All 201s on Eenterprise are on HEP this week, no EGVs in service. Yesterday was 227 and 231, didn't see the third loco. This afternoon 206 arrived into Connolly screaming the place down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭GBOA


    206 was running with and EGV as recently as Saturday evening.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    206 is on the 09:35 Dublin-Belfast this morning with 89613. But the EGV also has 9608 stamped on it now. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Karsini wrote: »
    206 is on the 09:35 Dublin-Belfast this morning with 89613. But the EGV also has 9608 stamped on it now. :confused:

    Yeah, saw that yesterday afternoon and did a double take at the 9608 number at the top end of it. Strange alright.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah, saw that yesterday afternoon and did a double take at the 9608 number at the top end of it. Strange alright.

    Yep, here's a photo I took in Dublin.

    276704.JPG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    Someone should introduce whoever did those numbers to a) a ruler and b) a consistent number set, even without the whole 613/608 issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Think I've solved the EGV renumbering. I saw 227 with another EGV today renumbered 9606. My take it that the EGVs have been renumbered 9602, 9604, 9606 and 9608. This is to reflect that NIR own all the EGVs and all DD stock owed by NIR have even numbers while IE own all the odds.

    Its similar to how NIR renumbered the C201 class locos in their own sequence after being sold to them by Irish Rail.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,300 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    This is to reflect that NIR own all the EGVs
    Why is this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Jonathan wrote: »
    Why is this?

    Don't know why they are not shared ,2 for each, but I have read multiple sources that says that NIR own the 4 EGVs and this new numbering system seems to back that up.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Maybe it was done because NIR look after all the coaches anyway nowadays? If I recall, each operator looked after their own coaches but then they came to an agreement that NIR would maintain the coaches while IE would maintain the locomotives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Karsini wrote: »
    Maybe it was done because NIR look after all the coaches anyway nowadays? If I recall, each operator looked after their own coaches but then they came to an agreement that NIR would maintain the coaches while IE would maintain the locomotives.

    That could also explain why 206,207,230 and 233 never got the new Enterprise livery even 4 years after 208 got it. The paint shop in York Road was very busy with coaching stock and the quick turnaround of the EGVs.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That could also explain why 206,207,230 and 233 never got the new Enterprise livery even 4 years after 208 got it. The paint shop in York Road was very busy with coaching stock and the quick turnaround of the EGVs.

    I was taking a look at a photo I took on Saturday of 206 beside 89613/9608 and the last repaint date was December 2004. 230 was badly in need of a repaint too, but they've much bigger issues on their plate with that loco for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭CaptainFreedom


    Karsini wrote: »
    230 was badly in need of a repaint too, but they've much bigger issues on their plate with that loco for sure.

    Thats if it makes it that far.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭n0brain3r


    209 worked the 14:00 Heuston-Cork today. I thought she was back on Enterprise duties with the shortage of NI equipped locos.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,836 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    n0brain3r wrote: »
    209 worked the 14:00 Heuston-Cork today. I thought she was back on Enterprise duties with the shortage of NI equipped locos.

    A lot of services are without EGV's, until that changes 209 won't be back up North.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,271 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Don't know why they are not shared ,2 for each, but I have read multiple sources that says that NIR own the 4 EGVs and this new numbering system seems to back that up.

    The ownership arrangement of the fleet was and still is that it is half owned by each company. This was done at the time of purchase so that both companies took on two sets each, the intention at the time of purchase being that there was to be 4 sets, with one being a spare that was to be rotated into service at any given time. However, powers that be decreed that the sets were extended in the end into 3 large sets and one spare carriage of each of the 4 types as required. As a result, maintaining the sets have been far more awkward as it's harder to withdraw carriages as required

    NIR bought the 4 EGV's from Irish Rail when the Mark 3 fleet was tendered for same some time ago and have entered them into their Translink numbering scheme as mentioned. As it stands, Irish Rail don't operate passenger carriages anymore save for the Mark 4 fleet so it makes maintaining the DD set easier to track if Translink/NIR take this on.

    By the looks of it, rotation of the EGV stock isn't as well planned as it could be if they are taking all 4 sets out at once but the locos can revert to HEP if and as required


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,836 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    By the looks of it, rotation of the EGV stock isn't as well planned as it could be if they are taking all 4 sets out at once but the locos can revert to HEP if and as required

    They shouldn't be taken out so often, there was no way while on the Mark3's they were take away that often. Expect its something else which is causing problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭cmore123


    There was an issue with the EGV's bogies which saw them all temporarily withdrawn not long after introduction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    206, 8208 and 209 all at Connolly this morning at 7:00. 8208 was on the Enterprise. 206 on the turntable and 209 outside the shed. Don't know if 209 is back for Enterprise duties as there is still just two EGVs in service. I reckon it brought the RPSI Craven rake to the valet plant and stabled at the shed for the night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭RonanM123


    Anyone know what loco hit the Cow near Templemore this evening on the 17.00 to Cork which I currently 5 hours late. Possible damage keep it out of action for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    RonanM123 wrote: »
    Anyone know what loco hit the Cow near Templemore this evening on the 17.00 to Cork which I currently 5 hours late. Possible damage keep it out of action for a while.

    Another 201 for the scrap man. IE seem to have stopped fixing damaged 201s as they have too many and with more Mk4s being stored as it is there will even less need for them.

    Last time a Mk4 DVT hit a cow or two it did alot of damage to the train as the buckeye coupler broke off and bounced down the train as it ran over it causing damage to a few coaches in the process. They have since removed the buckeye coupler and store them in the cab now as they will rarely if ever be needed on the DVT end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,836 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    One of the Belfast loco's possibly 206 or 7 has being on the Cork runs very recently so if it was involved, repair is quiet likely given 230 is out also.

    From experience with a cow and a 201, the break pipe will be broken and possibly some boogie damage to the 201 and the first coach behind it to say the least. Given the weight of the 201 to the DVT end damage would be far greater if the loco was pushing.

    I wouldn't like to be on a 22000 hitting a cow...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    One of the Belfast loco's possibly 206 or 7 has being on the Cork runs very recently so if it was involved, repair is quiet likely given 230 is out also.
    .

    Yeah, 207 was on Corks recently, possible still is. Surprised given the shortage of Enterprise locos and the fact 209 can only work EGV sets, which is currently 2 out of the 3.

    207 on Mk4s, 228 being overhauled and 230 withdrawn. 2 spare locos and 209. They should swap out 207 for 209 to give them more options.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,836 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    233 operating Cork services, being a while since I recall it over Heuston side.


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