New Mazda 6 Z Sport or second hand BMW 520 (2010)

mayo01

Hi folks.

I am considering buy a new Mazda 6 Z Sport but cannot decide if I shoudl buy a second hand BMW 520 instead? any ideas?

Max Power1

Get the beemer, no second thought needed
The two cars quoted are worlds apart imo.

mayo01

I know wht you are saying but woudl I not be better off to have a 2012 car than a 2010?

Max Power1

mayo01 wrote: »

I know wht you are saying but woudl I not be better off to have a 2012 car than a 2010?

Tea 1000

Max Power1 wrote: »

Get the beemer, no second thought needed
The two cars quoted are worlds apart imo.

They're not worlds apart in fairness, but the Beemer is two classes up from the Mazda, so there is a large degree of difference.
It'll be the older model 5-series in 2010 if that bothers you, but other than that, it depends on yourself really. The year means nothing, but if you like the peace of mind of a full 3 year warranty etc and having a new car over a nicer interior and more comfort and refinement then it's your choice. Only a test drive will reveal to you which you are happy to part the hard earned with.

EPM

Max Power1 wrote: »

Get the beemer, no second thought needed
The two cars quoted are worlds apart imo.

Not a huge difference but the 5 series is a bigger, more refined car. They may be ten a penny but for a very good reason.

Benny Cake

The new Mazda will depreciate exponentially more than the 2010 BMW.

And its a Mazda.

mickdw

Tea 1000 wrote: »

It'll be the older model 5-series in 2010

Lots of 10 plate new model 5 series around

rebel.ranter

Most 2nd hand BMW dealer supplied cars come with a 2 year warranty as standard. So warranty is probably not the deal breaker element.
Personally I'd prefer the BMW. I think it has more kerb appeal, probably a nicer drive, bigger, more comfortable. The difference in specification would be an interesting one, as in, what kit you're getting for your money.

As for the number plate, in 12 months time it's an old car anyway. A 3 year old BMW will look a hell of a lot more upmarket than a one year old Mazda.

How long are you planning on keep it? e.g. 5 years Another interesting thing to do would be to compare the potential depreciation of a 5 year old Mazda from new versus 7 year old BMW 5 from 2 years old, i.e. the values of newer car minus the value of the older car. You'd have to do your best to find similar specs but you get the idea.
To me the Mazda 6 just looks like an unpopular rep mobeil. Sorry if that offends anyone but it's only my opinion so what does it matter!

lomb

Id actually go with neither.
Its not just the initial cost, its the depreciation and running costs that matter.
I reakon 2008 preferably a late one is the sweet spot on most cars for cost versus depreciation versus newness. Youve got a very new car for about a third of new.
Older sports cars are ok too as they tend to balance it with lower miles and being looked after money no object.
Id shoot for something like 08 5 series or A4 tbh.

Anan1

mayo01 wrote: »

Hi folks.

I am considering buy a new Mazda 6 Z Sport but cannot decide if I shoudl buy a second hand BMW 520 instead? any ideas?

I assume you've driven both? If not then start there.

MetzgerMeister

Benny Cake wrote: »

And its a Mazda.

And what's wrong with a Mazda?

Jimdagym

Buy the Mazda and help save the economy.

veetwin

Jimdagym wrote: »

Buy the Mazda and help save the economy.

The Japanese economy?

Squall19

Or buy a Mazda 6 MPS, you'll need alot more than a common 520i/d to match that:p



4WD, 268bhp, 0-60 6 seconds.

If you buy a 520i/d people will think your too cheap to buy a proper engined car.

170bhp, 1600kg and pay through the teeth for it, no thanks.

A bit of fun for your money no?

Max Power1

Squall19 wrote: »

Or buy a Mazda 6 MPS, you'll need alot more than a common 520i/d to match that:p

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4WD, 268bhp, 0-60 6 seconds.

If you buy a 520i/d people will think your too cheap to buy a proper engined car.

170bhp, 1600kg and pay through the teeth for it, no thanks.

A bit of fun for your money no?

Still, at the end of the day its a mazda.
Wouldnt own one if you gave it to me for free.

166man

Max Power1 wrote: »

Still, at the end of the day its a mazda.
Wouldnt own one if you gave it to me for free.

Care to elaborate on the whole ''it's a Mazda'' arguement?

Max Power1

166man wrote: »

Care to elaborate on the whole ''it's a Mazda'' arguement?

It will depreciate like a lead balloon for one. Also there is no prestige in owning a mazda.

Compton

Max Power1 wrote: »

It will depreciate like a lead balloon for one. Also there is no prestige in owning a mazda.

When you can get a 08 model for 7-8k who cares?

Nonoperational

Max Power1 wrote: »

Still, at the end of the day its a mazda.
Wouldnt own one if you gave it to me for free.

You wouldn't own a 6 MPS if it was given to you for free?

That's an extremely bizarre comment for me. What car do you drive now? Personally I'd admire a 6 MPS more than a 520d any day! Mazda 6 depreciation isn't the worst either.

BTW I'd probably go the the BMW if it had the 2 year warranty, but have a drive of both.

langdang

Max Power1 wrote: »

It will depreciate like a lead balloon for one. Also there is no prestige in owning a mazda.

There's no prestige in owning any car that you can see a skanger with his tracksuit pants tucked into his socks driving like a gimp. Audi, BMW, Merc, RangeRover, you'll see a skanger or worse driving it, usually a higher spec model than "prestigious" people with legitimate "prestigious" incomes can afford. 520d's are as common as muck man.

166man

Max Power1 wrote: »

It will depreciate like a lead balloon for one. Also there is no prestige in owning a mazda.

They aren't that bad depreciation wise and the 520d is hardly the last word in prestige. It's a strange dilemma for the OP, and I myself would have the BMW but I still like Mazda's and think they're great cars.:)

Max Power1

gpf101 wrote: »

You wouldn't own a 6 MPS if it was given to you for free?

That's an extremely bizarre comment for me. What car do you drive now? Personally I'd admire a 6 MPS more than a 520d any day! Mazda 6 depreciation isn't the worst either.

BTW I'd probably go the the BMW if it had the 2 year warranty, but have a drive of both.

I wouldnt own it no, I would sell it to someone mad enough to want a mazda.

To answer your other question, I currently drive a golf TDI and am planning to change this to an E60 520d/530d later this year. I guess thats two stereotype groups hit.

I dont think the vast majority of people would admire any mazda (bar an MX5) more than any BMW, so I think your comment "admire a 6 MPS more than a 520d any day" is the bizarrist comment of the year so far.

Homer

Max Power1 wrote: »

I dont think the vast majority of people would admire any mazda (bar an MX5) more than any BMW, so I think your comment "admire a 6 MPS more than a 520d any day" is the bizarrist comment of the year so far.

It's just his personal opinion hardly worthy of "bizarrest comment of the year" Jeez some people take Motors waaaay to seriously..

166man

Max Power1 wrote: »

I wouldnt own it no, I would sell it to someone mad enough to want a mazda.

To answer your other question, I currently drive a golf TDI and am planning to change this to an E60 520d/530d later this year. I guess thats two stereotype groups hit.

I dont think the vast majority of people would admire any mazda (bar an MX5) more than any BMW, so I think your comment "admire a 6 MPS more than a 520d any day" is the bizarrist comment of the year so far.

You still haven't explained what your evident ''problem'' is with a Mazda? I most certainly would admire a Mazda 6 MPS driver a hell of a lot more than a 520d owner. I would only have the BMW if my annual mileage warranted it...

jsd1004

Homer wrote: »

It's just his personal opinion hardly worthy of "bizarrest comment of the year" Jeez some people take Motors waaaay to seriously..

I would have an MPS over a common as muck (cant afford the tax brigade) 520d any day of the week. I have an interest in cars though.

RobAMerc

you need to go drive both. buying a car based on the plate or the badge is surely a recipe for disappointment. If you buy the BMW your inner plate snob will hate you, if you buy the Mazda your inner badge snob will hate you, so go drive them both, which ever one you like form your opinion sitting in and driving it ( not what you think other people will think of you in it ) - then go buy that.

Max Power1

166man wrote: »

You still haven't explained what your evident ''problem'' is with a Mazda? I most certainly would admire a Mazda 6 MPS driver a hell of a lot more than a 520d owner. I would only have the BMW if my annual mileage warranted it...

I already have. There's no prestige to owning a mazda. They will have zero resale value due to depreciation because noone wants one. They are a poor man's repmobile.

Max Power1

Homer wrote: »

It's just his personal opinion hardly worthy of "bizarrest comment of the year" Jeez some people take Motors waaaay to seriously..

My comment was in retort to

gpf101 wrote: »

You wouldn't own a 6 MPS if it was given to you for free?

That's an extremely bizarre comment for me. What car do you drive now? Personally I'd admire a 6 MPS more than a 520d any day! Mazda 6 depreciation isn't the worst either.

BTW I'd probably go the the BMW if it had the 2 year warranty, but have a drive of both.

jsd1004

Max Power1 wrote: »

I already have. There's no prestige to owning a mazda. They will have zero resale value due to depreciation because noone wants one. They are a poor man's repmobile.

Trade are giving abou 10k for an 08 520d bcause there is so many out there. Thats some depreciation

Max Power1

jsd1004 wrote: »

Trade are giving abou 10k for an 08 520d bcause there is so many out there. Thats some depreciation

Find me an 08 520d for 10k on sale in a dealer and I'll buy it tommorrow (once the spec is not paddy boggo cloth interior and manual gearbox) and also donate 25 Euro to a charity of your choice.