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Callers to the Door

  • 09-01-2012 10:40pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 517 ✭✭✭


    Has anyone noticed an increase in levels of people calling to the door for whatever reason? In the past week we've had two 'charities', and two other calls we didn't bother answering as we have a baby and had our hands full at the time.

    The reason I said I'd start this thread is literally 10 mins ago two young lads with a clipboard rang the doorbell, I just happened to be hitting the hay early tonight, usually not in bed before 12, but before I could get me feckin pants back on they were on to the house next door!! Who the fu ck rings the bell at 10.15 in all fairness. The missus was looking out the window at them which is how I have the little bit of detail above.

    A lad from World Vision called the other day while I was at work and was very pushy with herself, wanting her to sign up on the spot and wondering would her 'boyfriend' be interested etc. And after all that he wanted to use the bathroom!! She's not the confrontational type so she let him in as she had the house full of her family and felt safe enough, but there's no way I would have if I was there.

    Am I being paranoid? Are these people sussing the place out? I'm in the Gracedieu area. Sorry about the long post but I'm curious to see if anyone else has had the same experience, especially in this area.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭wellboy76


    Airtricity and Vodafone get no business from me for this very reason.

    The worst form of spam


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭Faq


    A Few people came to the door the other day they asked me
    was I happy I wasn't happy before I found out the truth in the bible and so on been a while since I've seen jehovah witness


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Fella told me the other day that my neiigbours where saving children's lives in some other country by donating money to these kids. Wouldn't I like to help the kids. Course I would. Can you spare 20c unthinkable it was a day. Course I can. Excellent sir so ill put your name down. Jaysus no ya wont. I can spare it but I'm not going to.
    Dsi be the charity I'd give money to so the ickle babies in whatever village with no running water will have to get by with my lovely neighbours money for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    Try answering the door, heavily pregnant and carrying a 1 year old in a towel, just after her bath.

    Do I look like I have 5 minutes for the poor in the world? Or want to save 50% off my bills.

    I dont mind because I have no issue in just telling them where to go but a friend lives with 2 small kids and it really freaks her out when there are callers around. She would really freak out if they asked to use the toilet. I'd tell them where the nearest pub is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭jsd1004


    wellboy76 wrote: »
    Airtricity and Vodafone get no business from me for this very reason.

    The worst form of spam

    I never answer the door, its never anyone wanting to give you money thats for sure. If its someone i know they have my mobile, actually debating disconnecting the doorbell.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,649 ✭✭✭Not The Real Scarecrow


    2 chaps tried it on me about a year ago on the dunmore road area.Said were selling some energy saving ****e, could barely speak english. Tried pushing in past door, but didn't realize I did jiu jitsu,so the closer the better. One elbow to the head later,they were backing off with shocked looks on their faces.
    Anyone calls to your door that you don't know, answer with a knife, as if you're cutting stuff in the kitchen.They try push in, stick it straight in em. Not your fault that they walked into it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭Faq


    Best thing to do is tell them you have what ever there selling then they will tick you from the list and never come back most of them don't work for the company directly so they can't tell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭chelloveks


    Meatwad wrote: »
    2 chaps tried it on me about a year ago on the dunmore road area.Said were selling some energy saving ****e, could barely speak english. Tried pushing in past door, but didn't realize I did jiu jitsu,so the closer the better. One elbow to the head later,they were backing off with shocked looks on their faces.
    Anyone calls to your door that you don't know, answer with a knife, as if you're cutting stuff in the kitchen.They try push in, stick it straight in em. Not your fault that they walked into it.

    Fookin genius bai


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭dayshah


    World vision type collectors get €15 an hour.

    I'm considering putting a sign on my door saying no salespeople.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    There was a thread about this before, ill never forget a foreign man calling to my door before, he wanted to come in but wouldn't tell me what he was calling about, he refused point blank to tell me unless I let him in. I argued a bit with him and obviously wasn't gona leave him in.

    My boyfriend was just gone to the shop but he was asking where he was so I told him boyfriend was upstairs, when he came back from the shop he walked around the estate looking for the mysterious door caller but he had gone.

    Never found out what he was looking for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭Kracken


    In some cases, like for myself over Christmas a group young lads rang my door (lights were off).. they seemed to be casing the place...

    They got a shock when I answered and told them to Pi** off as I have a new born and they were banging on the door at 10.20pm, pretending to carol singing (in there sunday best tracksuit and peeked hats)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 517 ✭✭✭batm!ke


    I figured there would be a thread before :o, but what is bothering me this time around is that some of these people clearly don't care about what they're selling, they seem more interested in who lives in the house and often times are gone from the door before it's even answered. Somethin' is not right about it, my spidey-sense is tingling :P

    Edit: if anyone is experiencing the same thing, if they could give the general area they live just to see is there a pattern, thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    A few years ago my mother ( a very polite lady) had one of pushy guys at the door who would'nt take no for answer, my sister was getting ready for a days shooting and appeared behind her with her shotgun in her hand, they said they had never seen anyone move so fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    michellie wrote: »
    There was a thread about this before, ill never forget a foreign man calling to my door before, he wanted to come in but wouldn't tell me what he was calling about, he refused point blank to tell me unless I let him in. I argued a bit with him and obviously wasn't gona leave him in.

    My boyfriend was just gone to the shop but he was asking where he was so I told him boyfriend was upstairs, when he came back from the shop he walked around the estate looking for the mysterious door caller but he had gone.

    Never found out what he was looking for.

    'You have 3 seconds to get off my property, I am dialing the police as we speak.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    Kracken wrote: »
    In some cases, like for myself over Christmas a group young lads rang my door (lights were off).. they seemed to be casing the place...

    They got a shock when I answered and told them to Pi** off as I have a new born and they were banging on the door at 10.20pm, pretending to carol singing (in there sunday best tracksuit and peeked hats)

    We had that too, boyfriend told them to pi** off and they stole the "santa please stop here" sign out of the porch. Little pricks.

    Old tramore road area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    Ring the gardaí straight away. It might save your neighbours getting burgled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭billythepig


    i dont mind school kids raiseing a few bob for the school knocking at the door,
    but its those pushy fcukers who try sell you airtricity and gas and dont know the meaning of fcuk off,
    next time they try pressure my parents (O.A.Ps)to buy there unwanted shyte i will personally punch their fcuking lights out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,788 ✭✭✭Benimar


    i dont mind school kids raiseing a few bob for the school knocking at the door,
    but its those pushy fcukers who try sell you airtricity and gas and dont know the meaning of fcuk off,
    next time they try pressure my parents (O.A.Ps)to buy there unwanted shyte i will personally punch their fcuking lights out.

    I think these are the worst ok. I had a couple of them basically ask me if I was stupid when I told them I wasn't interested in moving to Airtricity. I'll never do business with Airtricity as a direct result of their 'salespeople'.

    I rarely answer my door any more, as an earlier poster said, any family/friends have my mobile number and have probably rung ahead anyway. Anyone calling unannounced is either looking to sell me something I don't want/looking for money/casing the joint..sometimes it's hard to tell which!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭Kracken


    Just been doing a little digging for the sales people and thought I would post this:

    NCA Guide for Doorstep Selling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I've had Airtricity people call to my door 3 times in the last 2 years trying to sell me their services. I'm with Airtricity for the last 2 years...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Funfair


    michellie wrote: »
    There was a thread about this before, ill never forget a foreign man calling to my door before, he wanted to come in but wouldn't tell me what he was calling about, he refused point blank to tell me unless I let him in. I argued a bit with him and obviously wasn't gona leave him in.

    My boyfriend was just gone to the shop but he was asking where he was so I told him boyfriend was upstairs, when he came back from the shop he walked around the estate looking for the mysterious door caller but he had gone.

    Never found out what he was looking for.

    You want me to draw you a picture :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭Rainbow_brite


    I noticed in the lead up to Christmas there was a lot more callers as well, world vision, airtricity, vodafone, girls selling makeup.

    We had two people around early twenties, trying to sell pictures to fund their travels around the world the guy went off on a bit of a speel saying he wanted to learn about new cultures and that the girl that was with him had designed the pictures, a few days later i saw two other fella's trying to flog the same pictures down on the quay.

    The best one though was the weekend before christmas two yahoo's knocked on the door around 10.30 pm and started to sing, i wouldn't have opened the door only there was a few in the house, neither of them had an ounce of a musical note between them. They had their hoods up as well so it would be hard to identify them. Got me thinking though after were they sussing out the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭Kracken


    Was one of them a a bit tubby, grey tracksuit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭Rainbow_brite


    They had tracksuit tops/hoodies on them about 18 upwards, they weren't young kids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Hey nothing wrong with hoodies ye Ould farts hahaha. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭Rainbow_brite


    seanybiker wrote: »
    Hey nothing wrong with hoodies ye Ould farts hahaha. :)

    Haha, I'm not old I'm on the right side of 30 and i wear hoodies, :D. It was just the fact they both had them up and pulled over their foreheads it was hard to see the faces! Maybe they just didn't want me to know that they were terrible singers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭ex_infantry man


    sales people will only be around selling at the peak hours when they know people are just in from work so ya could say between the hours of 4 til 8 any other times and there casing your house and aint sales people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭billythepig


    Benimar wrote: »
    I think these are the worst ok. I had a couple of them basically ask me if I was stupid when I told them I wasn't interested in moving to Airtricity. I'll never do business with Airtricity as a direct result of their 'salespeople'.

    I rarely answer my door any more, as an earlier poster said, any family/friends have my mobile number and have probably rung ahead anyway. Anyone calling unannounced is either looking to sell me something I don't want/looking for money/casing the joint..sometimes it's hard to tell which!


    what put me off airtricity was a woman on the joe duffy show who got her power cut off because she was 44 euro in arrears,
    i heard they are a right shower of w**kers,
    stick to ESB, At least you know where you stand with them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    what put me off airtricity was a woman on the joe duffy show who got her power cut off because she was 44 euro in arrears,
    i heard they are a right shower of w**kers,
    stick to ESB, At least you know where you stand with them.
    Better the divil ya know


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 butterfly20


    i think ye are being very immature these people are living of the commision they make from these switches which in most cases is very little how can u look at a man who is trying to care for his children on commission and tell him ta get away from your door iv worked in direct sales before and know its not all rosy for most people in there. this is their way of living .of course if they are not carrying id or show you any literature than you can b wary but most are just normal people trying to make a living and dont believe they should be treated like that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭ex_infantry man


    i think ye are being very immature these people are living of the commision they make from these switches which in most cases is very little how can u look at a man who is trying to care for his children on commission and tell him ta get away from your door iv worked in direct sales before and know its not all rosy for most people in there. this is their way of living .of course if they are not carrying id or show you any literature than you can b wary but most are just normal people trying to make a living and dont believe they should be treated like that!
    true, but there are a few that give door to door sales people a bad name with there pushy attitude, i work in sales at the moment and have never been one bit pushy and thats why i get on with my customers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 butterfly20


    i agree but what annoys me is that the genuine people who are trying to get by are getting the grief off people and it doesn't make their job any easier at the end it was 1 of the reasons i had to leave and people should consider this before cursing or trowing abuse to any person at their door it is 1 of the hardest jobs any person could do wit low pay. just pay a little respect for people that at least are trying to make a wage and not siting at home on the dole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Funfair


    i agree but what annoys me is that the genuine people who are trying to get by are getting the grief off people and it doesn't make their job any easier at the end it was 1 of the reasons i had to leave and people should consider this before cursing or trowing abuse to any person at their door it is 1 of the hardest jobs any person could do wit low pay. just pay a little respect for people that at least are trying to make a wage and not siting at home on the dole.

    Huh? Please stay on the dole.. I don't mind paying tax to keep guys like you on the dole if it means you won't be knocking on my door trying to sell me something I don't want..

    When people are at home they don't want some anoying salesman knocking.. that's what the high street and the internet is for...

    90% of salemen that work door to door are anoying little pests..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 butterfly20


    then just dont anwser ur door simple as! .. there are people out there who genuinly cant find work and are working every day to make a living witout sitting on their arse at home . its simple minded people like you that makes their job harder i have huge respect for any person that does it .and before you knock anything you should try working those hours and talking to people like you at a door to make a living! iv met some pushy ones myself and i know wat its like but most of them are normal people making a living ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    Some things I will buy at my door, lines for charity walks / runs.

    Airtricity, Chuggers and any womin selling 'Brown Tomas pillas and eiderdowns' I dont buy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Funfair


    then just dont anwser ur door simple as! .. there are people out there who genuinly cant find work and are working every day to make a living witout sitting on their arse at home . its simple minded people like you that makes their job harder i have huge respect for any person that does it .and before you knock anything you should try working those hours and talking to people like you at a door to make a living! iv met some pushy ones myself and i know wat its like but most of them are normal people making a living ...

    Look dude your smart ass one liners are the reason people don't like door sales men. If I hear the bell I answer the door it might be a local charity or the soccer/ GAA club not some smart ass car sales man look alike trying to sell me some crap service I don't want.

    I'd go as far as saying it's a lazy way to sell anything.. Put a leaflet in the letterbox and if I want your services I'll ring you otherwise P off..

    About time they banned door to door salesmen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭dayshah


    how can u look at a man who is trying to care for his children on commission and tell him ta get away from your door

    Because they piss me off.

    It's a game of poker. I start off with 'I'm not interested, thank you', they raise me a 'but..', then I raise them a 'look, I've been polite, now go away',

    it rarely gets past this point, but my ace card is a slap in the chops.



    If people are on low pay they should join a union and fight for petter pay rather than harass people in their homes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭billythepig


    Funfair wrote: »
    Look dude your smart ass one liners are the reason people don't like door sales men. If I hear the bell I answer the door it might be a local charity or the soccer/ GAA club not some smart ass car sales man look alike trying to sell me some crap service I don't want.

    I'd go as far as saying it's a lazy way to sell anything.. Put a leaflet in the letterbox and if I want your services I'll ring you otherwise P off..

    About time they banned door to door salesmen

    i totally agree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Smbc


    Before Christmas I had this young fella call to the door, like previous posters I don't answer the door. If it's someone I know they will call.
    Anyhow, when he realised the door wasn't being answered he started leaning on the bell and kicking the door.
    Eventually I had to answer, to hear he was collecting for a local sports club.

    Now normally ill support local kids and clubs, but he wasnt from the estate and i was suspect that the money was actually for his own fund
    So I fobed him off telling him, someone else was collecting yesterday. He told me I couldn't have, when I asked why, he couldnt answer..

    Now I put that down to the lad looking for some handy money, but maybe he was sussing out the place!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭billythepig


    Smbc wrote: »
    Before Christmas I had this young fella call to the door, like previous posters I don't answer the door. If it's someone I know they will call.
    Anyhow, when he realised the door wasn't being answered he started leaning on the bell and kicking the door.
    Eventually I had to answer, to hear he was collecting for a local sports club.

    Now normally ill support local kids and clubs, but he wasnt from the estate and i was suspect that the money was actually for his own fund
    So I fobed him off telling him, someone else was collecting yesterday. He told me I couldn't have, when I asked why, he couldnt answer..

    Now I put that down to the lad looking for some handy money, but maybe he was sussing out the place!

    he was probably in jail the day before :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 butterfly20


    ok i dont agree with you happily saying sit on ur hole and do nothing. i worked sales, i know its hard but i made a decent living out of it.

    There s people there everyday that will switch over to airtricity sky upc vodafone etc. people nowadays cant afford everything and are glad to save money!!!

    fair play you sit down all day and do nothing while others struggle to make a living in the wind and the rain to make there lives a better cirrcumstances for there family and kids.

    there not trying to actually rip you off. no sales people actually physically take cash off you at the door unless its the make-up!

    so grow up, or better still come and work with me for a day and then see if you can still put down door to door. as what you made off the dole sitting on ur bollox i actually have made more money than you in one day FACT!

    bye bye now and enjoy your ****ty 188 euro a week doing NOTHING!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭dayshah


    ok i dont agree with you happily saying sit on ur hole and do nothing. i worked sales, i know its hard but i made a decent living out of it.

    Sure why not push drugs on people so long as you make some cash out of it. These salespeople are a nuisance and should be banned.

    Instead of harassing people for a living I do a productive job. But as someone else said, I'd rather you take the dole than harass me in my home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    i think ye are being very immature these people are living of the commision they make from these switches which in most cases is very little how can u look at a man who is trying to care for his children on commission and tell him ta get away from your door iv worked in direct sales before and know its not all rosy for most people in there. this is their way of living .of course if they are not carrying id or show you any literature than you can b wary but most are just normal people trying to make a living and dont believe they should be treated like that!

    I don't owe any of these people a living and I will chose when I want to give to charity and who I give it to and I will chose when I want to change gas/electricity/whatever and who I want to change it to.

    I do not appreciate having my time wasted by people calling to the door and I will most certainly not be guilted into giving them money or anything else. When anyone like that calls to my door it gets unceremoniously slammed in their faces so as not to waste any more time on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭decies


    Just say no thanks to people and close door, my god there are a huge amount of victor mildew characters on this Waterford forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 517 ✭✭✭batm!ke


    Bit extreme to say you'd rather see people on the dole than being door-to-door salesmen, the last thing this country needs is more people on the dole. I do understand that some are pushier than others which can be very annoying. In any event I started the thread to see if anybody was receiving 'bogus' or dodgy people calling to the door. ex_infantry_man made a good point that if these people aren't calling at 'peak' selling hours then they're probably fakes. My estate seems to be plagued with these. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    A friend of mine is doing up a house at the moment. He was working away one night, and the electricity went off. He rang the ESB, who he was with at the time, to ask what the story was. They told him that he was no longer a customer of theirs. He tried ringing Bord Gais and Airtricity but they didn't have him on file either.
    He tried ringing them back the next day after he'd found the MPRN. Turns out that he was a customer now of Airtricity, and had an outstanding bill!! The only thing was that it wasn't registered in his name.
    All he could think off was that about a month beforehand, a girl from Airtricity had called to the house. He said No Thanks, but it looks like she set him up regardless, possibly for the commission!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Funfair


    batm!ke wrote: »
    Bit extreme to say you'd rather see people on the dole than being door-to-door salesmen, the last thing this country needs is more people on the dole. I do understand that some are pushier than others which can be very annoying. In any event I started the thread to see if anybody was receiving 'bogus' or dodgy people calling to the door. ex_infantry_man made a good point that if these people aren't calling at 'peak' selling hours then they're probably fakes. My estate seems to be plagued with these. :(

    True it was extreme, a good story needs a bit of drama :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Funfair


    ok i dont agree with you happily saying sit on ur hole and do nothing. i worked sales, i know its hard but i made a decent living out of it.

    There s people there everyday that will switch over to airtricity sky upc vodafone etc. people nowadays cant afford everything and are glad to save money!!!

    fair play you sit down all day and do nothing while others struggle to make a living in the wind and the rain to make there lives a better cirrcumstances for there family and kids.

    there not trying to actually rip you off. no sales people actually physically take cash off you at the door unless its the make-up!

    so grow up, or better still come and work with me for a day and then see if you can still put down door to door. as what you made off the dole sitting on ur bollox i actually have made more money than you in one day FACT!

    bye bye now and enjoy your ****ty 188 euro a week doing NOTHING!!!

    Who are you addressing this drivel at ?

    Incase it's me you got me mixed up with someone else as I ain't on the dole, I never was and have no intention (Touch wood) of ever being on it.
    i actually have made more money than you in one day FACT!

    Are you a betting man ? because I would say I put more on a horse then you make in a day FACT! did I mention I was self employed :eek:

    Nothing Personal to you, your just in one of those jobs that people hate a bit like a Traffic Warden, Speed camera opperator,clamper, car sales men etc.. It's your job not you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Funfair


    decies wrote: »
    Just say no thanks to people and close door, my god there are a huge amount of victor mildew characters on this Waterford forum.

    Must admit that was funny :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭Kracken


    A friend of mine is doing up a house at the moment. He was working away one night, and the electricity went off. He rang the ESB, who he was with at the time, to ask what the story was. They told him that he was no longer a customer of theirs. He tried ringing Bord Gais and Airtricity but they didn't have him on file either.
    He tried ringing them back the next day after he'd found the MPRN. Turns out that he was a customer now of Airtricity, and had an outstanding bill!! The only thing was that it wasn't registered in his name.
    All he could think off was that about a month beforehand, a girl from Airtricity had called to the house. He said No Thanks, but it looks like she set him up regardless, possibly for the commission!

    Hi Cardbordwindow, they can have this switched by to ESB as their Data Protection was breached and they should request a copy of the signature on the form "allowing", the switch and when the forgery arrive they start a proceeding of fraud.

    Airtricity are then required by law to investigate and allow them from a false contract.


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