Name one thing we are better off since FG came in

veryangryman

I know i know...politics, recession, blah blah and i apologise in advance but.....

I invite each poster now to say something positive about the current lot in Leinster House. Say what you like about FF, but at least they did do a bit like saying "Fuk checking my balance, im building a Motorway". They reminded me of myself this past Christmas.

Anyway, something positive...

"Hi Enda, i like your sheets"

afatbollix

Bertie has been ****ed off the gravy train he got when FF were in.

ScumLord

afatbollix wrote: »

Bertie has been ****ed off the gravy train he got when FF were in.

No he hasn't, he just doesn't even have to look busy for his money now.

HalloweenJack

They're actually going after pensioners, the great untouchables of Irish budgets.

Run_to_da_hills

Political Forum

---

> That Way.

Bits_n_Bobs

Eamon Gilmore seems to have disappeared. woot.

Logical Fallacy

afatbollix wrote: »

Bertie has been ****ed off the gravy train he got when FF were in.

Dreamer. Fat pensions, the government paying for his secretaries and 20grand for hour long talks?

Yeah, he has it rough now the poor bastard.

Glico Man

Soccer. We got to Euro 2012 with them in power...

castletownman

I notice Inda Kinny has managed to secure a good few new jobs in his home county, while acting the bollix with everyone else.

He's like Jackie Healy Rae, only looking after his own constituency

fryup

we have a nicer looking PM, and ......................................thats about it really

veryangryman

HalloweenJack wrote: »

They're actually going after pensioners, the great untouchables of Irish budgets.

They always vote in greater numbers than the rest so I find it hard to imagine that this will happen to them

Dotrel

We have a Taoiseach that doesn't look like something from The League of Gentlemen.

veryangryman

castletownman wrote: »

I notice Inda Kinny has managed to secure a good few new jobs in his home county, while acting the bollix with everyone else.

He's like Jackie Healy Rae, only looking after his own constituency

In fairness if theres a county that needs a lift jobswise, its Mayo. What else has he done for jobs in the county in the last year that you can recall? Me i cant recall anything

Bannasidhe

ummm....ohhhh...must be something....anything....Oh - got it... Rabbitte isn't shouting at people on the tele any more...sigh...it's the best I can come up with...:(

bladespin

We don't have to look at or listen to a certain Mr. Cowen anymore.

Nodin

afatbollix wrote: »

Bertie has been ****ed off the gravy train he got when FF were in.

When did that happen?

Keedowah

Maybe I'm wrong - but there might be a bit more of an honest outlook on things.

Now
"Jesus lads we are fecked!"

Then
"No, No, No - the IMF will not be asked to give us a dig out!" 3...2...1.. "Oh Hi IMF"

Dotrel

aaronh007 wrote: »

Soccer. We got to Euro 2012 with them in power...

We also won the coveted Unity Cup under FG. Take that Wales, Norn Iron and Scotland!

Radharc na Sleibhte

I have an extra 7 euro a month in mortgage relief.
Get. The. Party. Started.

Think I'll blow it all and get a 5 second handjob.

veryangryman

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

I have an extra 7 euro a month in mortgage relief.
Get. The. Party. Started.

Think I'll blow it all and get a 5 second handjob.

Uhhh.... theres a 7 Euro leaving town tax

Leo Dowling

Seems from this thread that their greatest strength is still that they're not FF, and everyone hates FF. That's actually the only strong card they play in the Dail but it wore thin long ago.

Bannasidhe

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

I have an extra 7 euro a month in mortgage relief.
Get. The. Party. Started.

Think I'll blow it all and get a 5 second handjob.

VAT on handjobs has been increased by 150% so the most you can hope for is .1 of a millisecond for 7 euro.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

fryup wrote: »

we have a nicer looking PM, and ......................................thats about it really

Haha you fancy Enda!!!

TheZohanS

Keedowah wrote: »

Maybe I'm wrong - but there might be a bit more of an honest outlook on things.

Now
"Jesus lads we are fecked!"

Then
"No, No, No - the IMF will not be asked to give us a dig out!" 3...2...1.. "Oh Hi IMF"

Really? Are you actually being serious???????????????????????????????????? Like the way FG said they wouldn't give the banks "Not one red cent" more?

As I said a few months ago, and I stand over it now; they're all the same.

Shattered Dreamer

As expected by anybody with half a brain nothing. FG promise the sun, moon & stars after FF have ruined the place again & the majority of the gob****e voting public choose the other end of the same ****ty stick. I'll just sit back now & watch you all turn on Enda & Co as predictably as the sun rises in the morning & sets in the evening. My only hope is that the current opinion pole isn't an indication that the Irish people are planning to vote Sinn Fein in bigger numbers

Dempsey

Leo Dowling wrote: »

Seems from this thread that their greatest strength is still that they're not FF, and everyone hates FF. That's actually the only strong card they play in the Dail but it wore thin long ago.

Both FF and FG should be removed from Irish Politics

Phill Ewinn

Enda's giving the rest of Europe a great laugh. The Greeks can't afford their sovereign debts with GDP at 300bn and an internal market of 10 million people, it's location in the mediteranean etc....

But we can afford to pay. All we have have to do is grin and bear it for the next ten or so years.

Yeah, he's fvcking hilarious.

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Political Forum

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> That Way.

no thanks

Biggins

Harney is gone - but through no credit is attributable to FG though!
They deserve no credit for it in the slightest.

starbelgrade

Dotrel wrote: »

We have a Taoiseach that doesn't look like something from The League of Gentlemen.

Our current Taoiseach is one of the puppets from Thunderbirds.

Yakult

They legalized Cannabis.........




















??

Nothing at all comes to mind.

PseudoFamous

All those promised Lisbon treaty jobs are due to start rolling in. Any day now..

starbelgrade

Biggins wrote: »

Harney is gone - but through no credit is attributable to FG though!
They deserve no credit for it in the slightest.

Fianna Fail have to be given the credit for destroying the PDs and the Greens. It's about the only positive things that I can think of that they deserve credit for.

bazza1

We are better at being poor!

Gophur

Shattered Dreamer wrote: »

As expected by anybody with half a brain nothing. FG promise the sun, moon & stars after FF have ruined the place again & the majority of the gob****e voting public choose the other end of the same ****ty stick. I'll just sit back now & watch you all turn on Enda & Co as predictably as the sun rises in the morning & sets in the evening. My only hope is that the current opinion pole isn't an indication that the Irish people are planning to vote Sinn Fein in bigger numbers

It seems the people with half a brain are very vocal!!!!


FG did not promise "the sun, moon & stars". You have a defective memory.

Dempsey wrote: »

Both FF and FG should be removed from Irish Politics

And replaced with who?



We are in Year 2 of a promised Austerity programme. It's ugly, it's distasteful, but we are still working off the IMF bailout funds. Anyone who thought it was going to be easy was a fool. Brian Linehan promised us four hard years, It was about the only thing the poor man got right, he and his buddies being responsible for the mess.



We have the alternative Government, who are very much hamstrung by the legacy of their predecessors. They promised to burn the bond-holders, but are now stuck in a situation that the next tranche of bail-out funds will not be forthcoming unless the same bond-holders are paid, in full. It's not nice to see these speculators getting paid, in full, but, by paying them, we are actually getting a better deal elsewhere.


The next big nettle to be grasped will be when the Croke Park deal expires. It's yet another FF deal that has proved to be ridiculously expensive. (The fact that teachers were allowed retire in February shows how pathetic the Govt negotiators were.)

Mr. Presentable

They cleared out a lot of the boy racers

DrumSteve

We got better at being worse off...

working fool

I get to visit northern Ireland a lot more

dsmythy

Fine Gael AND LABOUR. Some seem to forget.

Either way they've been in for 10 months. Ask me again at the end of 2013 how they're doing.

Dempsey

Gophur wrote: »

And replaced with who?

I dunno maybe 2 parties that dont hold the same ideology branded and packaged differently.

starbelgrade

Gophur wrote: »

It seems the people with half a brain are very vocal!!!!

FG did not promise "the sun, moon & stars". You have a defective memory.

- Fine Gael's main electoral promise was to undo the damage of the bank collapse and Bank Guarantee, in so far as possible, by burning bondholders and by renegotiating the IMF/EU interest rate. Look what happened there.

- One of their main pre-election promises was....

"Unlike the other parties, Fine Gael will take on the big vested interests that have contributed to the current crisis – the bankers, the bondholders, the developers and the unions. And we will aggressively cut the waste in our public service to keep all taxes as low as possible."

Fuck all has been done there either.

- Fine Gael promised to legislate against upward only rent reviews for retailers. They back tracked on that one.

- Both Fine Gael and Labour promised to reform the way in which people are appointed to State boards. However, at least 20 past or present party members, strategists or donors have been appointed to such posts since the Coalition came into office in March.

- Enda Kenny’s vowed to make judicial appointments less political - however, in their eight months in office, all five people chosen by the Fine Gael-Labour coalition to be appointed or promoted to top judicial posts have been close political allies.

In fact Fine Gael have failed on all fronts of their "5 point plan" which was;

1. Help protect and create jobs
2. Keep taxes low while fixing the deficit;
3. Deliver smaller, better government;
4. Create a completely new, fairer, more efficient health system; and
5. Overhaul the way our political system works to stamp out cronyism and low standards.


So far, Fine Gael have done 3 things since they took power:

- Sent Kenny on a dummy run to Europe to have his ass smacked & sent home

- Sent Kenny onto the TV to do a State of the nation address - ie., to tell us what we already knew

- Introduced a budget that they had to send to Germany to get pre-approval on.



It seems that you are the one with the defective memory. I would also imply that you also only have half a brain, but I don't find the need to insult other posters necessary especially when they have shown themselves out to be utterly and completely wrong.

Shattered Dreamer

Gophur wrote: »

It seems the people with half a brain are very vocal!!!!


FG did not promise "the sun, moon & stars". You have a defective memory

In case you forget, FG promised not to hit the people poorest off in this country, which in the context of the last election was "the sun, moon & stars". They promised jobs yet the budget leads to lose of jobs & there solution to fixing our economy is "jaysus lads sure we'll all be farmers again".

Basically all the issues they got voted in on have basically gone out the window, as is always the FG way mind you. All FG need to do now is sign away more sovereignty to Europe or touch the Corporation tax & they'll have contributed just as much to Ireland's downfall as Bertie or Brian & in a fraction of the time.

The time for blaming FF & the Greens ended with Budget 2012 so FG & Labour need to pull their heads out of their arses & actually make a beneficial change to this country instead of this blame laying like always.

mattjack

Anybody remember the Green Party.....

keano_afc

Our health minister looks slightly healthier.

Biggins

Gophur wrote: »

It seems the people with half a brain are very vocal!!!!

Here's what my half a brain has noted so far then:

U-turns and Stalling.

Bondholders
•
“Is it Labour’s way or Frankfurt way” – Eamon Gilmore; “Fine Gael in
Government will force certain classes of bondholders to share in the cost of
recapitalising troubled financial institutions” – Manifesto.
•
In government, they refuse to impose losses on the €3.5 billion of unsecured,
unguaranteed senior bondholders at Anglo Irish Bank and Irish Nationwide
Building Society (INBS).
They are still refusing to burn them! Amazing!


Third Level Fees
•
“Labour is opposed to third-level fees by either the front or back doors” –
Gilmore.
•
Now Quinn refuses to rule out increased student fees in the future.
Student Services Charge.
NOW FEES HAVE GONE UP!
•
Quinn signed a USI election pledge to reverse the €500 increase in the
Student Services Charge in Budget 2011.
•
Refused to do so once in Government, and won’t rule out increases to it in the
future.


Recapitalisation
•
Varadkar said that not another “red cent” would be put into the banks.
•
The Central Bank announced in March 2011 that the banks would require
€24bn. €19bn of this met by the taxpayer July 2011.
Another 1.25 BILLION going to the banks in bailout in January 2012!


Bank Directors
•
Pledged to “re-structure boards and replace and directors who presided over
failed lending practices.”
•
BOI appointed 4 pre-2008 directors; AIB has 3 non-exec directors still in
place; Irish Life and Permanent still has one.


Force Banks to Cut their Interest Rates
•
The Programme for Government promised that banks in receipt of state
support would be forced to forego a 25 basis point increase on their variable
rate mortgage.
•
Despite cuts by the ECB to interest rates, NIB is pressing ahead with raising
rates, and other banks are refusing to lower theirs.


Sell the EBS
•
During the election Fine Gael pledged to sell EBS.
•
EBS has now been merged with AIB.


Medium Term Loans to Irish Banks
•
Michael Noonan “We need medium-term facilities from the ECB so that the
liquidity problems in the Irish banks are not addressed on a fortnightly basis
with a rollover of the liquidity funding every two weeks.”
•
It now appears this is not going to happen – The ECB rejected it.


The EU-IMF Deal
•
The EU/IMF deal was a “bad deal for Ireland.” ( Eamon Gilmore), “a disaster
and an obscenity” (Micheal Noonan)
•
After election: Eamon Gilmore said: “It was never going to be the case that
the renegotiation of the agreement was something that was going to be done
in one great big bang.”


Income Tax
•
FG 5 point plan: No new taxes including no income tax increases
•
Minister Noonan: “I am not going to rule out any tax initiative, or any tax
increase or any tax reduction.”
Universal Social Charge NOW INCREASED TO €132 A MONTH

•
The PfG states: “We will review the Universal Social Charge”.
•
No review now forthcoming; Noonan robustly defends the levy in the Dail
saying the “universal social charge is progressive.” He added: “It is hard to
argue that is regressive; that is one of the more progressive taxes one will
find.”


Budget 2011
•
FG & Lab voted against Budget 2011.
•
Now it seems they’re only too happy to take ownership of the budget and
boast about the adjustments that have been achieved to date.


More Pay Cuts to Public Servants
•
They opposed the public sector pension levy – “It is a crude and unfair
system.” (Brendan Howlin)
•
Now they won’t rule out more cuts to public service pay.


Jobs Budget
•
FG promised a Jobs Budget within 100 days.
•
The jobs budget then became a mere revenue neutral “jobs initiative”, with no
jobs target.


Getting People Back to Work
•
FG Election Slogan: Let’s Get Ireland Working
•
Latest Live Register figures show unemployment stagnant – the jobs initiative
failed, the New Era jobs didn’t materialise, and the Medium Term Fiscal
Statement acknowledges unemployment will rise next year.


New Era Jobs
•
Enda Kenny boasted that “New Era plan will create over 105,000 jobs.”
•
At its launch in Sept, there was no mention of jobs it would create, and no
mention of cost.


New Era Funding
•
The Programme for Government and the Fine Gael manifesto state that it
would funded through the sale of state assets.
•
However, the EU/IMF agreement clearly states -“It is important to make
effective use of our state assets and, where appropriate, dispose of them to
help reduce our government debt.”


State Assets
•
Programme for Government: “We will target up to €2 billion in sales of nonstrategic
state assets.”
•
It now looks like up to €5bn of assets, strategic or otherwise, will be sold.


Strategic Investment Bank
•
The Programme for Government states “we will establish a Strategic
Investment Bank”.
•
Kenny, September 2011: “A Strategic Investment Bank would be difficult to
implement in current market conditions.”


Upward Only Rent Reviews
•
The Programme for Govt states: “We will legislate to end upward only rent
reviews for existing leases.”
•
Each time the Justice Minister has been asked about it, he’s fudged the issue.
Protecting the Low Paid
•
Labour Manifesto pledged to reform JLCs in a way that protects the most
vulnerable workers.
•
Jobs Minister Richard Bruton is dragging his feet on introducing a reformed
JLC system, leaving workers vulnerable since July.


Competition & Consumer Protection
•
FG Manifesto: Promised a new “powerful consumer champion”, giving it
“additional powers – by constitutional change if necessary – to break up
public and private sector monopolies and cartels.”
•
No mention of this in Competition Bill 2011, and no commitment to
constitutional change.


Ban on Corporate Donations
•
The Programme for Government clearly states “we will introduce the
necessary legal and constitutional provisions to ban corporate donations to
political parties.”
•
The Bill allows corporate donations to continue and Enda Kenny has
confirmed that there will be no constitutional ban put to the people.


Severance Pay for Senior Civil Servants
•
There will be no more “golden handshakes” for public servants that have
failed to deliver.
•
Big payoffs for senior civil servants continue.


Reducing the number of TDs
•
FG had previously promised to reduce the number of TDs by 20
•
The Electoral Act proposes a cut of as little as 6 TDs.


Constitution Day
•
Enda Kenny, April 2011: “We will set out a programme to allow for a series of
constitutional amendments to be decided on what we called “Constitution
day”, to be held within 12 months of the new Government being formed.”
•
Little mention of it since


The Seanad
•
Both parties pledged to abolish the Seanad.
•
There was no mention in the legislative agenda of legislation to scrap the
Seanad.


Child Benefit
•
During the election campaign Eamon Gilmore identified child benefit as a red
line issue. Labour’s “Every Little Hurts" advertising campaign lambasted Fine
Gael for their proposed cuts in the child benefit rates
•
Joan Burton has since refused to give an explicit commitment on child benefit
rates.
NOW BEING CUT.

Social Welfare Rates
•
The Programme for Government clearly states “We will maintain social
welfare rates”
•
Joan Burton has continuously refused to give an explicit commitment on
headline rates.
National Educational Psychological Service

•
Ruairi Quinn promised to provide “€3m to reverse the cut in the National
Educational Psychological Service.”
•
He has made no mention of this commitment since then
Water Charges & Utility Charges

•
Labour previously said they would be opposed to the introduction of flat rate
water charges “A flat water charge is not something that we’re going to
introduce.”
•
The government has now admitted that two charges are on the way by 2013,
a flat rate household utility charge (by 2012) and water charges.


Household Charge
•
“We’re not in favour of a tax on the family home” – Gilmore
•
July 2011: Phil Hogan announced the introduction of a €100 flat rate
household charge which is to be applied to the 1.6 million households in the
country.


Irish Water
•
Fine Gael’s plans for the setting up of a new water company introducing water
charges featured heavily in its New Politics policy document published in
March 2010.
•
However, FG has now admitted that they have no plan for the setting up of
this company, no idea of the timeline involved and have also admitted that
there are significant legal and administrative changes involved in transferring
water services from local authorities to the new water company.


Stag Hunting
•
FG Manifesto p27: “Fine Gael will reverse the ban on stag hunting”; Junior
Minister Shane McEntee (Meath East) told the Seanad on 25th Oct that
legislation reversing the ban was forthcoming.
•
8th Nov – Kenny spokesperson: McEntee was “expressing an opinion” and
there was “no commitment” to reverse the ban.


Turf Cutting
•
Fine Gael Manifesto: “It is premature to cease the cutting of turf for domestic
purposes in 2011”; Roscommon TD Frank Feighan said he would “sign in his
own blood” the future of turf-cutting.
•
27th Sept: Deenihan signs regulations making turf cutting on Special Areas of
Conservation a criminal offence, and allows for the confiscation of turf cutting machinery.


Climate Change
•
Programme for Government: “We will publish a Climate Change Bill.”
•
This was dropped by Phil Hogan in November 2011.


Garda Numbers
•
Shatter said in December 2010 that a reduction in Garda numbers would
“obstruct the battle against crime”
•
“The job of this Government is to reduce public expenditure, not to increase it.
That is as applicable across the justice sector as it is in other sectors.”


Triple Lock
•
FG manifesto: “We believe that the Triple Lock must be modified to allow
Ireland participate in peacekeeping missions. The failure of the UN Security
Council to pass a resolution should not prevent us from taking part in
overseas missions.”
•
Shatter: “As matters stand the triple lock remains part and parcel of Govt.
policy”.


Government Jet
•
FG Manifesto: “We will introduce a new code of practice for the use of the
government jet ensuring cost effective and transparent travel. To stamp out
any abuse, cheaper commercial alternatives must be taken when possible.”
Transport spokesperson Simon Coveney said last year: Jets were “being
abused” by Ministers.
•
Oct 2011: Jet had been used 24 times at a total cost to the taxpayer of almost
€14m, including a trip to Cork for the Taoiseach and a trip to Algeria for
Coveney.


Junior Ministers
•
FG pledged they would cut the number of junior Ministers to 12.
•
Once elected they appointed 15 Junior Ministers.


Quangos
•
Fine Gael pledged to abolish 145 quangos in their document Reinventing
Government.
•
By end Oct 2011, they had abolished 5, but had created 8.
Guillotining of Legislation

•
Enda Kenny, July 2010: “I do not accept the Government’s guillotining of Bills
in any shape or form.”
•
By November 2011 they had guillotined almost a dozen Bills.
Staff in Constituency Offices

•
FG pledged to reduce ministerial staff allocated to work on constituency
matters to two per Minister
•
In March 2011 it was announced that ministers will keep 4 staff each in their
constituency office.


Constituency Work
•
Enda Kenny promised to direct all Ministers to focus entirely on their new
portfolios in the first 100 days and completely avoid constituency work.
•
However, Kenny himself repeatedly broke this promise with dozens of
appointments in Mayo every week.


Ministers’ Advisors
•
Ministerial advisors will be subject to salary caps
•
Most Ministers’ advisors have breached the cap.


Cronyism
•
They promised an end to cronyism and transparency in board appointments.
•
FG & Labour members and donors have been appointed as Judges and to
the boards of Quangos.


Transparency in Appointments
•
FG and Lab Manifestos: They promised vetting of appointments to state
boards by the Oireachtas.
•
Party political appointments have been made, without any oversight or
transparency. In October 2011, they appointed the former head of AIB
Investment Management as head of the New Era quango, without revealing
her pay or conditions.


Freedom of Information
•
Programme for Government promised to legislate to restore the Freedom of
Information Act.
•
No commitment for when legislation will be published on this.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Cant think of a single thing, i'm worse off than i was last year and i blame FG.

Gophur

starbelgrade wrote: »

- Fine Gael's main electoral promise was to undo the damage of the bank collapse and Bank Guarantee, in so far as possible, by burning bondholders and by renegotiating the IMF/EU interest rate. Look what happened there.

- One of their main pre-election promises was....

"Unlike the other parties, Fine Gael will take on the big vested interests that have contributed to the current crisis – the bankers, the bondholders, the developers and the unions. And we will aggressively cut the waste in our public service to keep all taxes as low as possible."

Fuck all has been done there either.

- Fine Gael promised to legislate against upward only rent reviews for retailers. They back tracked on that one.

- Both Fine Gael and Labour promised to reform the way in which people are appointed to State boards. However, at least 20 past or present party members, strategists or donors have been appointed to such posts since the Coalition came into office in March.

- Enda Kenny’s vowed to make judicial appointments less political - however, in their eight months in office, all five people chosen by the Fine Gael-Labour coalition to be appointed or promoted to top judicial posts have been close political allies.

In fact Fine Gael have failed on all fronts of their "5 point plan" which was;

1. Help protect and create jobs
2. Keep taxes low while fixing the deficit;
3. Deliver smaller, better government;
4. Create a completely new, fairer, more efficient health system; and
5. Overhaul the way our political system works to stamp out cronyism and low standards.


So far, Fine Gael have done 3 things since they took power:

- Sent Kenny on a dummy run to Europe to have his ass smacked & sent home

- Sent Kenny onto the TV to do a State of the nation address - ie., to tell us what we already knew

- Introduced a budget that they had to send to Germany to get pre-approval on.



It seems that you are the one with the defective memory. I would also imply that you also only have half a brain, but I don't find the need to insult other posters necessary especially when they have shown themselves out to be utterly and completely wrong.

I see you have conveniently ignored the fact that we did not get a Fine Gael Government, rather we got a Coalition which, by its definition, will comprise policies from both parties, not the exclusive policies of one party. As such the "5 point plan" was scuppered when FG failed to get a majority.

Shattered Dreamer wrote: »

............
The time for blaming FF & the Greens ended with Budget 2012 ............

Are you for real? Those ba5tards should be blamed for ever more. Why should they be let off the hook after Budget Day? We will be paying for their incompetence/greed for the next 20 years, and you want someone else to be responsible?


People talk about the poor being targeted? We have , still, the most generous Social Welfare, the most expensive Public Service and many other examples of cases that , probably, need to be changed, but will be positively distasteful if it happens.

I don't like what is happening but I recognise the Govt is very constrained in what they are doing and very limited in the scope of their powers.

It would be very easy for me to blame the current administration for my predicament but I know where the real blame lies, and it's not with FG/Labour.

suicide_circus

Wtf? People voted for FG based on their pre election promises? What kind of dumbass would do that? When has a political party ever fully delivered on their pre election promises?

I gave FG a vote because it was essential that FF be decimated in the final count. Job done. I never expected FG to magic all our problems away. It was the same with Obama, too much hype, they're still only politicians and as such, mostly a shower of useless self serving cünts.

Gophur

CJC999 wrote: »

Cant think of a single thing, i'm worse off than i was last year and i blame FG.

This is a perfect example of the blinkered thinking that exists in our Country and the kind of thinking that will give us SF and/or FF in the next Government.

Think you have it bad now? Wait until we have the IRA running things. Imagine Mary Lou and Gerry as Ministers?

Phill Ewinn

Gophur wrote: »

It would be very easy for me to blame the current administration for my predicament but I know where the real blame lies, and it's not with FG/Labour.

George Hook school of politics. FG supported the bail out fraud. They're culpable for this mess just like FF and the ''Greens''.

tayto lover

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

George Hook school of politics. FG supported the bail out fraud. They're culpable for this mess just like FF and the ''Greens''.

Correct. While in opposition they sat and watched as things went downhill. Worst opposition we ever had. Now in power they took up where F.F. left off and broke all their false promises. Not to be trusted at all.