Borgen [** Spoilers **]

Cosmic Maybe

Borgen has definitely been the best thing on tv this year. What annoys me though is that BBC 4 insisted on showing it in 2 hour chunks. Why? I find it a bit strange especially since it was originally broadcast over 10 weeks in Denmark. All the episodes (apart from the African peace treaty ones) are self contained and don't benefit from being shown as double bills. I saw the first series when they repeated it one episode a week during the summer and found that way much better. Also, you'd think it would benefit the BBC to space them out considering the second episode always has a lot lower ratings then the first.

goose2005

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I don't know if that's how it really works but that's how they explained it on the show. It didn't matter that her party was one of the smaller in the coalition because the leaders of the bigger parties couldn't get anyone to back their deals with them as PM. She made enough concessions on policy and ministries that Labour were willing to take her deal with her as PM and their leader as deputy.

I'd assume it doesn't happen in real life even if it's possible as a bigger party is never going to concede PM to a smaller party. The bigger party usually coerces a small party into doing their bidding.

Maybe Labour didn't want a Green PM and the greens didn't want a Labour PM, so she was chosen as the least disagreeable option?

The Black Oil

That's something I've been wondering about as well. I don't know what Danish/Swedish they first showed on BBC4 - The Killing? Perhaps they found that the double helpings were a hit in the ratings and that became the formula for the broadcast schedule for all their Scandinavian drama. 2 episodes on a Saturday became part of the hype, I suppose.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

^ I think they did it initially because they weren't sure if people would tune in for ten weeks for a subtitled Danish show. By having two episodes a week it made it like an "event". Like you'd stay in for 2 hours of TV on a Saturday, you might not for just one hour.

I think that worked well for something like The Killing, and even for The Bridge because various things ran through the episodes and having only one episode a week might have been a bit frustrating as a viewer, might have sent people running to find the whole series elsewhere. Two episodes a week would give you enough answers to keep you waiting until the next week. However, as said already, I'm not sure that was necessary with Borgen and I must admit some nights I'd find myself struggling towards the end of the 2nd episode to keep paying attention.

Plus, if they had The Killing, The Bridge and then Borgen all on one episode a week for 10 weeks, that's 30 weeks of 52 filled for the year. The way they've shown them they've only filled 15 weeks.

Cosmic Maybe

Interesting interview with Sidse Babett Knudsen aka Birgitte Nyborg

http://www.digitalspy.ie/tv/news/a458304/borgen-qa-with-star-sidse-babett-knudsen-video.html

Fluorescence

Great interview. She's so lovely

seligehgit

Love the fact that the Beeb show a double helping of Borgen even if the plots are not related,makes for a damn good Saturday night,ditto Forbrydelsen and Broen.These programs are so good it is hard enough having to wait for the following week's helping without stetching out a season on the double.

seligehgit

Love the fact that the Beeb show a double helping of Borgen even if the plots are not related,makes for a damn good Saturday night,ditto Forbrydelsen and Broen.These programs are so good it is hard enough having to wait for the following week's helping without stretching out a season on the double.

Cosmic Maybe

Good news!!! BBC 4 have confirmed that they've acquired the third series of Borgen.

Bad news - have to wait till January 2014.

Bit about it in the Guardian:

Borgen to return to BBC for third series *SPOILER ALERT*

expectationlost

borgen is great but is very simplistic at times, don't ya think

Fluorescence

expectationlost wrote: »

borgen is great but is very simplistic at times, don't ya think

What makes you say so?

expectationlost

Fluorescence wrote: »

What makes you say so?

well they deal with complex issue, but sometimes very simply, brigette gets horney over some man fixing her sink :rolleyes:, kasper says to katrine that her boyfriend is a dope, she goes home and shouts at him for not paying attention to politics, katrine fights with her boss in the first season are not just idealistic but simplistic.

TwoShedsJackson

expectationlost wrote: »

well they deal with complex issue, but sometimes very simply, brigette gets horney over some man fixing her sink :rolleyes:, kasper says to katrine that her boyfriend is a dope, she goes home and shouts at him for not paying attention to politics, katrine fights with her boss in the first season at very not idealistic but simplistic.

Birgitte shagging the driver had been building since the start of season 2 after she was seperated from the husband. I found that they didn't rush most plotlines, what was it episode 4 or 5 before that happened and they had been emphasising her loneliness and the pressure she was under with her job for quite a while before that.

If it was just a case of her 'getting horny over some man fixing her sink' they could have thrown in some 80s porn 'boom chikka waa waa' music too!!

expectationlost

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

Birgitte shagging the driver had been building since the start of season 2 after she was seperated from the husband. I found that they didn't rush most plotlines, what was it episode 4 or 5 before that happened and they had been emphasising her loneliness and the pressure she was under with her job for quite a while before that.

If it was just a case of her 'getting horny over some man fixing her sink' they could have thrown in some 80s porn 'boom chikka waa waa' music too!!

okay so the arc has been building but it was a bit of cliche you have to admit, people fly off the handle at moments notice, also they never seem any time to interview anybody on that tv show, the producers are alwys saying times up katrine. every bloody time, she never gets to ask many questions.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

expectationlost wrote: »

okay so the arc has been building but it was a bit of cliche you have to admit, people fly off the handle at moments notice, also they never seem any time to interview anybody on that tv show, the producers are alwys saying times up katrine. every bloody time, she never gets to ask many questions.

She's presenting the news, live. Have you ever watched the evening news here? They have experts on all the time and only give them a minute to talk.
The odd scene where they're on tat debate show they obviously don't show us the entire thing, just the end where they wrap it up.

expectationlost

you think they develop a newsnight type show where they get more time then, and use their access to the politicians access judicioulsy

snubbleste

Borgen writer has a film out.
Remember that one of the episodes in Season 2 had Danish soldiers being held hostage by Somali pirates?
In Tobias Lindholm's drama the crew of a Danish cargo ship are taken hostage after their boat is boarded by Somali pirates. The film is inspired by real events and scripted by Lindholm, the writer behind Thomas Vinterberg's The Hunt and TV series Borgen. http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/video/2013/mar/20/a-hijacking-trailer-video

_Whimsical_

Has anyone found decent subtitles anywhere for Borgen series 3?
Any point in the right direction here or via PM would be VERY gratefully received.

DeepBlue

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

Has anyone found decent subtitles anywhere for Borgen series 3?
Any point in the right direction here or via PM would be VERY gratefully received.

Perhaps post #590 might be of help on this thread.
I can't vouch for them as I haven't tried them myself. I think I'll just wait until the BBC airs them.

The Black Oil

Even the AV Club have gotten on board. Hopefully it'll make Americans more aware of it and they'll stay away from a remake.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/count-to-90,97772/

Sheela

Photos and opening credits from series 3 here

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-02-08/borgen-series-3---picture-and-video-preview

Can't wait!

DeepBlue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccta_uZCeC0

No Kasper in the new title sequence except on one of the TV sets (with new hair style).

Is he not returning for series 3?

Fluorescence

He's on the credits, so yeah I hope so. He'd better be - he's the main reason I watch Borgen. Best storyline, most disgustingly beautiful actor :pac:

Sheela

I read somewhere that he is returning...

He is going to be working with Torben on the TV show

Has anyone seen A Hijacking? Thought it was v good..

The Black Oil

I'd venture the Americans will have season 3 of Borgen before us.

(US only)

http://www.linktv.org/borgen

brian_t

According to DigiGuide the third and final season starts on Saturday 16th November.

Two episodes starting at 9.00pm.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

^ What a pleasant surprise! I was expecting it to be January again.

brian_t

Confirmation. (Although not by the BBC yet)

Birgitte's Back - and who's got her back? Bent? Kaspar? Katrine?
Find out in the first double episode on Saturday 16th November!

https://www.facebook.com/BorgenUK

mafaa

DeepBlue wrote: »

Perhaps post #590 might be of help on this thread.
I can't vouch for them as I haven't tried them myself. I think I'll just wait until the BBC airs them.

any idea when air ?

brian_t

mafaa wrote: »

any idea when air ?

Saturday 16th November 9.00pm