Borgen [** Spoilers **]

seligehgit

By some distance the weakest double bill of Borgen thus far.Yip Katrine is going to have to start acting more like a girlfriend,rather than using this status to extract information out of Kasper who indeed needs to start to grow a pair again!Hanne tried to explain the dynamics of a normal relationship to Katrine,never thought I'd think Katrine is more selfish than Kasper the spin doctor.How on earth did he not notice the missing documents?
This whole Kharun crisis appears to mirror that of Sudan with sectarian/oil themes?Looks all set up for a reunion of Birgitte and Philip...LOL re the possibility some poster mentioning Kasper as the possible Daddy of Magnus.:D

trishasaffron

The Black Oil wrote: »

Birgitte should have asked the South Kahrun tool when he was going to come out of the closet. :pac:

Nice:D

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

seligehgit wrote: »

Yip Katrine is going to have to start acting more like a girlfriend,rather than using this status to extract information out of Kasper who indeed needs to start to grow a pair again!Hanne tried to explain the dynamics of a normal relationship to Katrine,never thought I'd think Katrine is more selfish than Kasper the spin doctor.How on earth did he not notice the missing documents?

I know she's a journalist and is committed to the truth and all that but I wanted to punch her last night. She's gone on and on at Kasper about being honest with her, he finally tells her his massive secret and then she goes behind his back to steal his stuff. Why it didn't occur to her that Nyborg might be in Africa trying to do something good, and there might be a valid reason why they were keeping it secret, I don't know.
When a boozy old lady with no family left and no friends is giving you life advice and judging you for it you should know you've made some mistakes.

The Black Oil

I think it was just a lazy moment from the show's writers. It was kinda a silly callback to the first episode of the show where Kasper 'discovered' the document about Hesselboe's expenses. Katrine was due her turn.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Maybe, but where she was trying to justify it to Hanneh (?) with "he's lying to me" was too much. He's just after spilling his deepest darkest secret to you and you're annoyed that he's keeping top secret government information from you?

Fluorescence

There are no homosexuals in South Kahrun.

Yeah I think the writers messed up by having Katrine look at the papers. It's not her character at all.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Fluorescence wrote: »

There are no homosexuals in South Kahrun.

Yeah I think the writers messed up by having Katrine look at the papers. It's not her character at all.

I think it's very much in her character. Kasper even asked her a few times if it was his girlfriend or the journalist he was talking to. My only problem with it was that she was demanding this massive thing from Kasper for their relationship to work but didn't seem to have to change anything herself. Even when they got the info about the oil she had to have it shoved in her face that there were consequences to her actions before she made the right decision.

The Black Oil

TICKLE_ME_ELMO for Statsminister. :pac:

Such a cool word.

ejmaztec

Fluorescence wrote: »

There are no homosexuals in South Kahrun.

Yeah I think the writers messed up by having Katrine look at the papers. It's not her character at all.

I couldn't help but think how ironic that was when he was sitting in the same room as "Bent".

Qualitymark

This biz of an African state, north vs south, and Denmark intervening diplomatically in the possible war, and industrial interests doing the dirty - wasn't that in the last season?

Daisy03

Has anyone a link to somewhere I could watch the first episodes of season 2? I can't seem to find them it anywhere. I just finished season 1 and i'm hooked!

TwoShedsJackson

Daisy03 wrote: »

Has anyone a link to somewhere I could watch the first episodes of season 2? I can't seem to find them it anywhere. I just finished season 1 and i'm hooked!

It's being released on DVD on February 4th: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Borgen-Series-Sidse-Babett-Knudsen/dp/B00842AJ4S/ref=pd_cp_d_h__0 for £17.99, if you don't want to go the torrent/download route.

Personally I reckon €2 an episode for this quality of drama is well worth it, will definitely buy.

expectationlost

just started watching borgen ep 1 and 2, how long as brigitte been an member of parliament, and how does smaller party leader become PM?

need a borgen wikia or something

why is the labour party (leader so anti-immgrant etc) have labour party held power so long they've becomne the fianna fail of denmark?

Daisy03

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

It's being released on DVD on February 4th: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Borgen-Series-Sidse-Babett-Knudsen/dp/B00842AJ4S/ref=pd_cp_d_h__0 for £17.99, if you don't want to go the torrent/download route.

Personally I reckon €2 an episode for this quality of drama is well worth it, will definitely buy.

Thanks for the tip. I was shopping last night and they have season 2 out early in golden discs. I bought the season 1 and 2 boxset together for 55 euro. It's prob cheaper on amazon but I didn't want to wait.

snubbleste

Inspirational two episodes. Ridiculously good acting from all.

The speech at the end sounded so real and emotional. I'd vote for her

The Black Oil

2.09 and 2.10.

Good speech, could have done without the attached music, though.

9 was such a horrible episode

for Laura and the family. I guess they needed some lightness in there hence Kasper being on crutches. Still think Laura could slip backwards again - the scenes between her and Kasper were good. And also how Laura's psychiatrist unpacked the nature of her anxiety. Sensible move by Birgitte to take leave, and there was a nice little scene there when she go into the lift - personally and professionally alone after the press conference. No advisors running after her.

I'm entirely sure I buy that TV1 feels obliged to respond or set something up every time Laugesen puts out a video tape...

Don't know if Kasper/Katrine will work out. I don't know that I care all that much for Birgitte and Philipe getting back together, sorta.

Roll on the election.

Infoanon

expectationlost wrote: »

just started watching borgen ep 1 and 2, how long as brigitte been an member of parliament, and how does smaller party leader become PM?

Bent pointed out to her that instead of playing King maker, why not be the King.....

Ep 10 was a tour de force - incredibly strong ending to the series 2 - 2014 before Series 3 is shown on BBC4/HD if reports are correct.

snubbleste

Can we not petition/convince TG4 to buy it and screen it before then? :cool:

expectationlost

Infoanon wrote: »

Bent pointed out to her that instead of playing King maker, why not be the King.....

yes but how does leader of smaller party become pm?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

expectationlost wrote: »

yes but how does leader of smaller party become pm?

If I remember correctly it was a case of whichever party leader could get a coalition together first and get approval from the Queen to form the government. She managed to sweet talk Labour and the Greens into her deal and she got to be PM, they got various different ministries and promises on policies etc.

seligehgit

Yeah great ending,can't wait for Birgitte to tackle Hesselboe in another GE campaign.Laugesen will probably lead the media charge against her,only a matter of time before Birgitte is playing happy family's with Philip again.

patmac

Very enjoyable series, now that it is ended maybe we get her to come over here and run our country.

pinkypinky

Really strong final episode - loved that speech at the end. I almost clapped. Roll on season 3.

Kiwi_knock

They did a great job with Laura's storyline, really handled it very well. Very good end to the series. Hope we get to see the election next year, rather than it start the season with a new government in place.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

They did a great job with Laura's storyline, really handled it very well. Very good end to the series. Hope we get to see the election next year, rather than it start the season with a new government in place.

I didn't think I was that bothered about Laura, but that episode with her in the hospital and the press hounding her was really upsetting to watch. Really well done in all aspects, I especially like how many times it managed to make me feel something without ever feeling emotionally manipulative.

expectationlost

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

If I remember correctly it was a case of whichever party leader could get a coalition together first and get approval from the Queen to form the government. She managed to sweet talk Labour and the Greens into her deal and she got to be PM, they got various different ministries and promises on policies etc.

okay its always about what coalition can be put together but still the larger party gets premiership? no, i wonder does that happen in reality in denmark

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

expectationlost wrote: »

okay its always about what coalition can be put together but still the larger party gets premiership, i wonder does that happen in reality in denmark

I don't know if that's how it really works but that's how they explained it on the show. It didn't matter that her party was one of the smaller in the coalition because the leaders of the bigger parties couldn't get anyone to back their deals with them as PM. She made enough concessions on policy and ministries that Labour were willing to take her deal with her as PM and their leader as deputy.

I'd assume it doesn't happen in real life even if it's possible as a bigger party is never going to concede PM to a smaller party. The bigger party usually coerces a small party into doing their bidding.

expectationlost

i can't believe lindekrone didn't resign after the tape was leaked

part time punk

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

If I remember correctly it was a case of whichever party leader could get a coalition together first and get approval from the Queen to form the government. She managed to sweet talk Labour and the Greens into her deal and she got to be PM, they got various different ministries and promises on policies etc.

I don't remember much about the very start of S1 except there was a quite funny bit about the Ministry of International Development, very much being seen as a lesser one, but how she made the Greens seem delighted to get it as an extra Ministry in order to keep them on board and get them to also go in with Labour.

expectationlost

now at the end of s1

im confused as to how she fires the finance minister because of polls, that don't matter till theres an actual election, (depite having previously pointed about labour are the bigger party)