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UFOs - proof?

  • 03-01-2012 4:27pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭


    When it comes to the question of whether we're alone in the universe, I find myself generally not terribly convinced either way. So; on the one hand, despite the size of the universe, I can't help thinking that the chances of all the necessary circumstances for life to evolve happening anywhere other than here are so absolutely tiny that it must be virtually impossible that there would be life out there. And then in a stunning 180 degree turn, I similarly think, based largely on the same logic, that the universe is so vastly enormous that it seems inconceivable that life of some form WOULDN'T have evolved on other planets, either inferior or superior to our own. Then I basically come to the conclusion that these are probably matters which are far too enormous for me to have any reasonable grasp of and I go and put the kettle on.

    So now that I've made that all clear(!), have a look at this video which I found last night while doing my usual random wanderings around the internet. I'm not one for conspiracy theories (I was gonna put this on the CT forum but this looks a bit too convincing to sit there with all the theorised "moon landing was fake" and "9/11 was an inside job" threads - no offence guys), nor am I one to throw stuff like this around thoughtlessly...but this video, I gotta say, makes an unnervingly strong case, not only for the idea that there's life out there, but that it's a lot closer to us than we might care to imagine, possibly even already here. And yes, I know I already sound like a total crank - but watch the video and see if you can convincingly argue otherwise, and give rational explanations for every single thing that you see. If you can I'll be very pleased. Particularly with the frankly bizarre interrupted radio interview that takes up the last few minutes of the video.





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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    What is this I don't even


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Danny Dyer believes you ****ing **** ****s :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    There are probably intelligent beings in the universe.


    Not on Earth though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭TheRealSquishy


    Guy in my town was on the front page of the national papers saying he saw a ufo..apparently it spelled out "ANJIN" to him :rolleyes: Yara god help us!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Wattle


    I think its prefectly possible that there's intelligent life out there but the universe is so vast that they may never find us and we may never find them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Chinese lanterns....case closed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Mammanabammana


    chin_grin wrote: »

    I already explained why I didn't put it there.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Whats not hard to believe about a Unidentified flying object? Could be an air balloon etc. Now aliens on the other hand, hmmmmm..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    yes the ufo's caused her stammer ish thing

    /conspiracy theorist


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I already explained why I didn't put it there.

    We all still think it should go there though.

    So much stuff on that video has been explained already. Cloud formations, fakes, regular identified super secret military aircraft death ray projects etc. etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Clearly brother Kim Jong Il passing on his way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    All I saw was dozens of unidentified newsreaders filling in on a slow news day.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    If there are aliens out there, they'd probably be so different that we might not register them... they could exist on another plane, between the atoms or as a cloud of gas...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    this looks a bit too convincing to sit there with all the theorised "moon landing was fake" and "9/11 was an inside job" threads - no offence guys), nor am I one to throw stuff like this around thoughtlessly...but this video, I gotta say, makes an unnervingly strong case

    Pretty much everything in the video has been explained. The spiral thing was a failed missile test, and the Jerusalem video was a blatant fake. The cloud formations are naturally occurring fallstreak holes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Mammanabammana


    Pretty much everything in the video has been explained. The spiral thing was a failed missile test, and the Jerusalem video was a blatant fake. The cloud formations are naturally occuring fallstreak holes

    And this is why I posted it here. ::)

    Still passed an hour of a rainy tuesday evening tho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    We all still think it should go there though.

    So much stuff on that video has been explained already. Cloud formations, fakes, regular identified super secret military aircraft death ray projects etc. etc.

    and one of the first clips is of a reflection in the room being prejected onto the window he has to look through to see the ufo reflection


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Project bluebeam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    I accidentally the whole thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    I watched that vid, so they are are extra dimensional beings, like fat people.

    Some of that footage was weird. I don't believe in UFOs myself but I remember watching something about a Brazilian case and a lot of the people got radiation burns. I wondered how, if I wanted to give myself a radiation burn, I would have to break into a hospital and overdose myself with xrays.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    RichieC wrote: »
    Danny Dyer believes you ****ing **** ****s :pac:

    fucking fuck fuck's ?

    fucking cunt shit's?

    or cunting shit fuck's?

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    The spiral things are cool - missile tests or not.

    Don't believe that caller guy at all, but I reckon there are extra dimensional beings out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭FootShooter


    If you look deeper into all of these different clips, you'll find that every single of them have been explained.
    I especially laughed at 7:30-8:15. Doesn't look like an airplane with contrails at all like.

    The whole UFO conspiracy theory is stupid. Why the hell would they be flying around randomly on earth and doing nothing? And how come they've managed to travel thousands of lightyears, and still they're not able to make a spacecraft that's able to turn the lights off. I mean come on, how stupid is it not, to think that these aliens supposedly fly around during night with clear visible lights turned on? All the while being so advanced, that they're able to travel thousands of lightyears through the galaxy or between galaxies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Chinese one: SG1

    Norwegian one: Sliders.

    All joking aside, I'm in two minds TBH. Watched a documentary on Discovery the other day, and the first time UFOs were noticed was in late WW2, when the nazis were experimenting with "hovering discs". After the capture of Nazi scientists, and their repatriation to the USA (project Paperclip), the sightings all increased - in the vicinity of Top Secret bases - to where the scientists had been relocated.

    Cover up? Or cover story? Who can tell?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    If you look deeper into all of these different clips, you'll find that every single of them have been explained.
    I especially laughed at 7:30-8:15. Doesn't look like an airplane with contrails at all like.

    The whole UFO conspiracy theory is stupid. Why the hell would they be flying around randomly on earth and doing nothing? And how come they've managed to travel thousands of lightyears, and still they're not able to make a spacecraft that's able to turn the lights off. I mean come on, how stupid is it not, to think that these aliens supposedly fly around during night with clear visible lights turned on? All the while being so advanced, that they're able to travel thousands of lightyears through the galaxy or between galaxies.

    At the end of the vid, the extra dimensional beings explains that, they just slip in and out of dimensions and then there are no distances involved. One could be right next to me. Besides if I was that technologically advanced I would fly around randomly doing what I wanted with horns blaring. I wouldn't care what us apes felt about that. Just ready my warp drive and phasers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    Here's an UFO than went the wrong way:


    http://www.edu.lahti.fi/~ejvkeran/Kuvia/Joulupukki.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭dilallio


    Here's one in Romania taken from Google Earth


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭books4sale


    Yawn....another thread on chinese lanterns I see.

    Why do alien spacecraft need lights?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭books4sale


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    All joking aside, I'm in two minds TBH.

    Are you really?

    sH*T man, i thought that Toy Story 3 was for real, then I found it was all done with computers? Stooopid me, right? :cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    old hippy wrote: »
    If there are aliens out there, they'd probably be so different that we might not register them... they could exist on another plane, between the atoms or as a cloud of gas...


    "They exist in the spaces between space"

    Harold "Ox" Oxley,
    Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    books4sale wrote: »
    Are you really?

    sH*T man, i thought that Toy Story 3 was for real, then I found it was all done with computers? Stooopid me, right? :cool:

    I was talking about UFOs - not the video.:rolleyes:


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,529 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    old hippy wrote: »
    If there are aliens out there, they'd probably be so different that we might not register them... they could exist on another plane, between the atoms or as a cloud of gas...

    Not necessarily, there's a good chance convergent evolution could occur.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    books4sale wrote: »
    Yawn....another thread on chinese lanterns I see.

    Why do alien spacecraft need lights?


    Duh! - Only because it's clearly written in section 5 of the Spaceway Code that any craft which are involved in interstellar space travel must have at least 50 working lights.

    Not that it's fecking enforced!

    Makes me so angry so see UFO's flying round the place with some of their lights not working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Arpa


    dilallio wrote: »
    Here's one in Romania taken from Google Earth

    Those damn gypsies are becoming more and more creative at infiltrating our little island.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭BluesBerry


    Where are these safe countries *packs bags* , damn that phone call was chilling :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Saila wrote: »
    fucking fuck fuck's ?

    fucking cunt shit's?

    or cunting shit fuck's?

    :confused:

    It's my danny dyer impression so any order at all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Batsy


    UFOs exist.

    UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object, and there ARE objects in the sky which fly and are unidentified. If I look up into the sky and see something flying and I don't know what it is then it's a UFO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭books4sale


    ^^^^^^^LOL

    so if someone sends up a chinese lantern, you look up and see it, don't know that its a chinese lantern, then it's a UFO....

    ehhhhh....no....it's still a chinese lantern!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭books4sale


    "They exist in the spaces between space"

    Harold "Ox" Oxley,
    Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

    That's one lame film to be quoting from......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭Loomis


    Duh! - Only because it's clearly written in section 5 of the Spaceway Code that any craft which are involved in interstellar space travel must have at least 50 working lights.

    Not that it's fecking enforced!

    Makes me so angry so see UFO's flying round the place with some of their lights not working.

    You never see the feckers using indicators either. As bad as the drivers on the roads over here.
    books4sale wrote: »
    ^^^^^^^LOL

    so if someone sends up a chinese lantern, you look up and see it, don't know that its a chinese lantern, then it's a UFO....

    ehhhhh....no....it's still a chinese lantern!

    Are you missing the point? If he doesn't know what it is, it's unidentified. If someone sets him straight, then it's no longer unidentified. Unidentified does not equal alien spaceship.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 bergheim


    Extraterrestrials exist, but its harder now than ever to know what is fake and what not. Because of technology. I think for example it was a lot easier to tell a real UFO photo apart from a fake one back in the days spanning between 1945 and 1985


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭shadowcomplex


    old hippy wrote: »
    If there are aliens out there, they'd probably be so different that we might not register them... they could exist on another plane, between the atoms or as a cloud of gas...

    Like species 8472


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭pebbles21


    Guy in my town was on the front page of the national papers saying he saw a ufo..apparently it spelled out "ANJIN" to him :rolleyes: Yara god help us!


    Think the aliens were trying to spell "NINJA"....!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    The nearest star that could possibly have life containing planets is 84,000 light years away, so even if they sent us a message at the speed of light it would take generations to get here, so there's no way anyone on earth has ever seen an actual visitor..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,090 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Maybe they've got faster light?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Freddie59 wrote: »

    All joking aside, I'm in two minds TBH. Watched a documentary on Discovery the other day, and the first time UFOs were noticed was in late WW2, when the nazis were experimenting with "hovering discs". After the capture of Nazi scientists, and their repatriation to the USA (project Paperclip), the sightings all increased - in the vicinity of Top Secret bases - to where the scientists had been relocated.

    Cover up? Or cover story? Who can tell?
    I'd think similar for at least some of the reports. A rellie of mine flew night missions over Germany in WW2 and he saw foo fighters on two missions. Lights that came up from below and tracked their flight for about ten minutes and then flew away. They exhibited flight characteristics that were well odd. He had flown missions since early on in the war and it was only later on that aircrews noted them. They were pretty sure at the time is was some Nazi secret weapon/monitoring device. Some Nazi scientists were defo experimenting with some out there shít. That much is part of public record. The exact nature of some of the weird shít is up for debate. On the physics front people forget that a helluva lot of modern physics came from Jewish scientists. An amazing amount. Great bunch o lads from the physics angle. :) German, especially nazi scientists were ignoring some of it from an (stupid) ideological standpoint. They were more into quantum physics for a start. So maybe, just maybe they stumbled upon some odd stuff others outside that daftly narrow focus missed? Plus Germany had an unreal lead in many sciences before the war. In chemistry alone they led the world. No slouches at engineering either. My dad, an engineer actually learned to read German before the war(he got married late:D), because so much of the good stuff was published in the language. So you never know. They may have cracked outside the standard envelope of flight, maybe even some anti gravity effect. Things that the US and others gobbled up after the war and used themselves, or tried to. The US would have not gotten to the moon when the did without the German lead in rocketry that they brought back with them after the dust had settled. German leads many of whom were soaked in blood. Ditto for other areas of flight engineering.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭Swampy


    I watched a great UFO documentary recently on Netflix.It was called "I know what I saw". Worth a watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I'd think similar for at least some of the reports. A rellie of mine flew night missions over Germany in WW2 and he saw foo fighters on two missions. Lights that came up from below and tracked their flight for about ten minutes and then flew away. They exhibited flight characteristics that were well odd. He had flown missions since early on in the war and it was only later on that aircrews noted them. They were pretty sure at the time is was some Nazi secret weapon/monitoring device. Some Nazi scientists were defo experimenting with some out there shít. That much is part of public record. The exact nature of some of the weird shít is up for debate. On the physics front people forget that a helluva lot of modern physics came from Jewish scientists. An amazing amount. Great bunch o lads from the physics angle. :) German, especially nazi scientists were ignoring some of it from an (stupid) ideological standpoint. They were more into quantum physics for a start. So maybe, just maybe they stumbled upon some odd stuff others outside that daftly narrow focus missed? Plus Germany had an unreal lead in many sciences before the war. In chemistry alone they led the world. No slouches at engineering either. My dad, an engineer actually learned to read German before the war(he got married late:D), because so much of the good stuff was published in the language. So you never know. They may have cracked outside the standard envelope of flight, maybe even some anti gravity effect. Things that the US and others gobbled up after the war and used themselves, or tried to. The US would have not gotten to the moon when the did without the German lead in rocketry that they brought back with them after the dust had settled. German leads many of whom were soaked in blood. Ditto for other areas of flight engineering.

    But didn't the Germans also report seeing these lights thinking that they were some allied weapon? They were also reported in the pacific by the Japanese, everyone seemed to think it was the other side.

    Im on the fence when it comes to aliens/ufo's, there's a lot of bull**** out there but there is also some genuine unexplained occurrences/anomalies that nobody has any answers for...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    The biggest conspiracy theory are conspiracy theories.

    THERE HERE TO MISLEAD US PEOPLE!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Sindri wrote: »
    The biggest conspiracy theory are conspiracy theories.

    THERE HERE TO MISLEAD US PEOPLE!!!

    LOL :D:D:D:D

    So true, the aliens would never have come up with that.
    Conspiracy theory is nice, it mean the world has an order and we are not ruled or respondent by random events.

    Lizards you are doing a bang on job. But could you pay the Bondholders...please...


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