DB's fare stages

Aard

They should do like they did in Oslo - a single fare structure for the city whether day or night. And it's a flat fare to boot. 28kr: about €3.60, or €2.30 at purchasing power parity.

Oslo is equally if not more spread out as Dublin. It makes Dublin look cheap as chips. There are many modes (train, metro, tram, bus, ferry) which are covered by the one fare -- prices aren't based on mode of transport, rather mode of transport is based on demand/topography.

Of course, if 28 crowns is a little pricey for you, you can always get a period ticket. Here's the prices below, the third column takes the cost of living and high salaries (~€18 minimum wage) into consideration:

NOK EUR PPP
24 hour 75 9.70 6.30
7 day 220 28.40 18.50
30 day 590 76.20 49.50
365 day 5900 762 495

Yes, you've read that right -- even in a raw currency conversion, it's 23% cheaper to buy an annual ticket in Oslo for all modes than it is for an annual Dublin Bus ticket. Just a quick overview of how the most expensive city in Europe does things...

foggy_lad

Aard wrote: »

They should do like they did in Oslo - a single fare structure for the city whether day or night. And it's a flat fare to boot. 28kr: about €3.60, or €2.30 at purchasing power parity.

Oslo is equally if not more spread out as Dublin. It makes Dublin look cheap as chips. There are many modes (train, metro, tram, bus, ferry) which are covered by the one fare -- prices aren't based on mode of transport, rather mode of transport is based on demand/topography.

Of course, if 28 crowns is a little pricey for you, you can always get a period ticket. Here's the prices below, the third column takes the cost of living and high salaries (~€18 minimum wage) into consideration:

NOK EUR PPP
24 hour 75 9.70 6.30
7 day 220 28.40 18.50
30 day 590 76.20 49.50
365 day 5900 762 495

Yes, you've read that right -- even in a raw currency conversion, it's 23% cheaper to buy an annual ticket in Oslo for all modes than it is for an annual Dublin Bus ticket. Just a quick overview of how the most expensive city in Europe does things...

Try buying a pint though and break the bank:) some things are much cheaper but many things considered luxuries are a lot dearer.

Cookie_Monster

bk wrote: »

I don't see a zonal system helping significantly.

While it would simplify the stage fare system and make it easier to understand, people would still need to interact with the drivers and you wouldn't get the benefit of LEAP card and reduced dwell times.

that and DB would not doubt feel the need to complicate it, giving each major centre their own additional zones to go from. I can see it happening. Zone 1 Dub CC to say canals, 2 surrounding that, 3 surrounding that, until you got to say Dun Laoghaire which has it's own mini central Zone 1 with Zone 2 or 3 surrounding it also.

foggy_lad

Dear Mr Xxxxxxxxxx
I refer to your email regarding Stage information,

Stage information is carried for every bus route timetable on our website. The stage information was removed from bus stops a number of years ago as space became more limited with more timetables being displayed.

Bus drivers should be very well acquainted with stages, as all the stage information is pre-programmed into the ticket machine. The console shows the driver the current location and the range of where each fare extends to are listed. If there is any doubt regarding the correct fare to be paid, the driver should be consulted.

Early in 2012, a Stage Calculator will be available on our website and smart phone Apps. This will allow a customer to select the boarding stop and the alighting stop and the relevant fare will be shown.

A refinement to the ticket machine software later in 2012 will automate stage information.

I trust that this deals adequately with your request.




Kind regards,

Customer Comment Desk,

Dublin Bus

The bolding is mine

So all stage information has been removed from the very tops of the bus stops which had no other information apart from the Dublin Bus logo!

As for knowing what states are where, the information is available ONLY if you have a computer laptop or smartphone and are computer literate!

Also the drivers SHOULD have all the required information but this will only be the case if they bother to keep their machines updated throughout the journey and if they memorise the locations of the stage points on whatever routes they are driving.

In the case of any dispute like the physical location of stage points when a street has numerous stops or where landmarks that the points are named after has vanished the drivers decision is final even when it is wrong!

Aard

A stage-calculator app. Oh my god.

Dublin Bus, please stop investing in this archaic system!

Cookie_Monster

Bus drivers should be very well acquainted with stages, as all the stage information is pre-programmed into the ticket machine.

Either they are or aren't (and should be further trained), that's very ambigious statement and not very helpful.
What information is in the machine to aid the driver in figuring out the stages too, other than sometimes cryptic names of places...

a simple example

48 52 Churchview Rd. (Granville Rd.)

there is a stop both north and south of that junction, how does the machine help the driver figure out which one is correct?

foggy_lad

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

there is a stop both north and south of that junction, how does the machine help the driver figure out which one is correct?

Obviously it will be the one which benefits the company with an increased fare regardless of the direction of travel:D