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Italian scientists claim sky fairy used UV radiation to zap image into Turin Shroud

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    #62
    wonderfulname
    Registered Users Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    Found the report here, translating it is a pain in the hole, at least the abstract is in english:
    The body image of the Turin Shroud has not yet been explained by traditional science and the attempts to obtain a similar image by chemical methods failed till now. As a consequence, a great interest in a possible mechanism of image formation still exists. We present a summary of the results of five-years experiments of excimer laser irradiation (spectrum of the emitted light in the ultraviolet and vacuum ultraviolet) of raw linen fabrics, seeking for a coloration similar to that of the body image embedded onto the Shroud of Turin. We achieved a very superficial Shroud-like coloration of linen yarns in a narrow range of irradiation parameters. We also obtained latent coloration that appears after artificial or natural aging of linen following laser irradiations that at first did not generate any visible effect. Most importantly, we have recognized distinct physical and photo-chemical processes that account for both coloration and latent coloration. These processes may have played a role in the generation of the body image on the Shroud of Turin

    TLDR: The chemists couldn't explain the shroud, so we took a crack at it with UV light, our results are similar to the shroud, therefore our methods or similar could have been used to create it.

    Flicking through the report it's as genuine as they come, there is no suggestion of the supernatural, merely a dismissal of the idea that it's a medieval forgery on the basis that we cannot explain how it was done, which you kind of have to agree with, it appears that that line was taken to be a dismissal the object was man made or something, at any rate people have to stop spazzing out at scientists because of lazy journalists interpretation of their results.


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    #63
    sensibleken
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    Fairy? zap? are you saying god is this guy?

    http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhcdw1QpMw1qbsollo1_500.jpg


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    #64
    prinz
    Registered Users Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    If I need you to do or be anything on my behalf, I'll ask you. Now stop getting so irritated..

    Not irritated. Entertained. By all means keep going I could use a few more laughs.
    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    ...just because I make fun of ridiculous religious beliefs.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: ..

    There's enough there to be made fun of without inventing some of your own. Sorry, 'interpreting'.
    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    We are no longer living in the era when people like me could be easily shut up if we said anything that offended the kiddy-fiddler church or those who believe in the bilge it peddles. :)..

    'People like you'. You mean those who are easily manipulated by the press? Those who read an article headline and jump to conclusions? Those who think they are smarter than the scientists involved? Who exactly are 'people like you'?
    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    Mind you, I understand the strong feelings that the Turin Shroud prompts in some...

    I don't think you do.
    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    Even Hitler is reputed to have wanted to gain possession of it. They say he also wanted to get hold of the holy grail, which is likewise bound to turn up somewhere sooner or later and have some scienntists --- ;);):
    http://truereligiondebate.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/christian_hitler.jpg

    :pac: I think you were given enough opportunities to stop digging the hole for yourself, but no you kep on going.


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    #65
    Biggins
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    prinz wrote: »
    ...:pac: I think you were given enough opportunities to stop digging the hole for yourself, but no you kep on going.

    Sorry prinz - but that part might have truth in it. :)

    It was said he was indeed going around collecting or at least trying to get such stuff.

    * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Lance

    * http://phantomsandmonsters.wetpaint.com/thread/3844806/Hitler+and+Religious+Relics

    Him or one of his underdogs is supposed to have been in a world search for such stuff.


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    #66
    prinz
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    :pac:
    Biggins wrote: »
    Sorry prinz - but that part might have truth in it. :) It was said he was indeed going around collecting or at least trting to get such stuff. Him or one of his underdogs is supposed to have been in a world search for such stuff.

    I know that stuff. Have a decent book on the topic as it happens, 'the spear of destiny' and all that jazz. What I can't work out is what it has to do with this thread... :pac:..

    I don't know about sky fairies but there are a few sky pilots floating about.


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    #67
    Biggins
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    prinz wrote: »
    :pac:

    I know that stuff. Have a decent book on the topic as it happens, 'the spear of destiny' and all that jazz. What I can't work out is what it has to do with this thread... :pac:..

    I don't know about sky fairies but there are a few sky pilots floating about.

    :D

    Indeed.
    Alien ones?

    *Quick... someone ring Tom Cruise! He will be deliraa.* :pac:


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    #68
    nyarlothothep
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    Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.


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    #69
    Biggins
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    nyarlothothep wrote: »
    Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

    A fellow Sherlockian! :D


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    #70
    FloatingVoter
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    This is what happens when Christmas swings around and the drinking starts. AH is like a pub where all the barred people go.

    Nobody has yet asked why Jesus Christ looks like Lemmy out of Motorhead.


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    #71
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Well sure lets let them believe what they want, Why create a thread just for the sake of mocking Christians and their beliefs.


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    #72
    Freddie59
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    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    I believe it is the scientists who discredit themselves by jumping to such an absurd and unscientific conclusion. And they are government scientists.;) I'd have thought they have enough problems to solve in Italy without getting involved in superstitious mumbo-jumbo. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Your obsession with the Almighty God knows no bounds. Kinda sad IMHO. Takes all sorts I suppose.:rolleyes:


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    #73
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    If I need you to do or be anything on my behalf, I'll ask you. Now stop getting so irritated just because I make fun of ridiculous religious beliefs.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    As I've said already, no bounds. Have you ever paused to consider how offensive such drivel is to people with those belief - who do not belittle your lack of said beliefs and faith?


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    #74
    argosy2006
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    OurLadyofKnock wrote: »
    There is an oil stain in the Tesco car park in Naas which looks just like Richard Dawkins.

    Esso Fairy !


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    #75
    mossyc123
    Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭mossyc123


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    If I need you to do or be anything on my behalf, I'll ask you. Now stop getting so irritated just because I make fun of ridiculous religious beliefs.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: We are no longer living in the era when people like me could be easily shut up if we said anything that offended the kiddy-fiddler church or those who believe in the bilge it peddles. :)

    Mind you, I understand the strong feelings that the Turin Shroud prompts in some. Even Hitler is reputed to have wanted to gain possession of it. They say he also wanted to get hold of the holy grail, which is likewise bound to turn up somewhere sooner or later and have some scienntists --- ;);):

    http://truereligiondebate.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/christian_hitler.jpg

    So your using this supposed release from "oppression" to be as unfunny and offensive as possible.

    Well done.

    There are other posters on here who use humour and reason to try and provoke thought and debate about The Big Question... you just come across as a bit of a gob****e tbh.


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