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Insulate timber framed house

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    vicwatson wrote: »
    http://www.icynene.ie/timber-frame-construction/

    The above spray their foam between the studs and NOT into the cavity, the cavity remains that - a cavity

    A tip for people with timber frames houses - next time you've a windy night put your hand at the gap between the sill board where it meets the window frame and feel the breeze.

    From my experience the sill board doesn't bridge the cavity gap and all the air sent into the cavity via the breather holes in the out concrete leaf seeps through these gaps. I've siliconed along all of mine to block off the draught.

    God post, we seem to have a few problems with some breezes, my own fault and lack of education on it all to be honest, did all the insulation and plasterboarding and cills myself so I didn't obviously seal it well enough! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭KAGY


    yop wrote: »
    God post, we seem to have a few problems with some breezes, my own fault and lack of education on it all to be honest, did all the insulation and plasterboarding and cills myself so I didn't obviously seal it well enough! :(

    Wish i had done mine myself. Got a air infiltration test done witha thermal camera and it's obvious that the fibre glass has shrunk / settled / not enough used. In fact there was only about 2m length of fibre glass split in half I.e 75mm in the alcoveby the fire place. One stud had nothing!

    I wonder could I pump behind the plaster board without removing the fibre glass?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    KAGY wrote: »
    Wish i had done mine myself. Got a air infiltration test done witha thermal camera and it's obvious that the fibre glass has shrunk / settled / not enough used. In fact there was only about 2m length of fibre glass split in half I.e 75mm in the alcoveby the fire place. One stud had nothing!

    I wonder could I pump behind the plaster board without removing the fibre glass?

    Where did you get the thermal camera may I asked?
    I wonder if a lad could rent a pump and pump it in myself :D IF you could drill small holes, say an inch wide in the plaster board between the internal studs, could you pump it?
    I would have no issue filling it again and painting over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭KAGY


    yop wrote: »
    Where did you get the thermal camera may I asked?
    I wonder if a lad could rent a pump and pump it in myself :D IF you could drill small holes, say an inch wide in the plaster board between the internal studs, could you pump it?
    I would have no issue filling it again and painting over.

    Got someone In to do it. About 200, maybe less iirc. they attached a blower to the door frame and sucked the air out of the house. It was 2deg outside and I had the inside at 23deg for 24hrs so you could really see the difference in temps. Could even see where the RSJ s were ducting the cold air into the centre of the house.

    I was thinking the same myself about pumping, especially after the mess of ripping the front room apart to re insulate :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Neds_K


    Hi all,
    Did anyone find the solution to the drafty Timberframe Houses?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Neds_K


    Also I bought my house second hand....how can you find out which company originally threw up your timber frame house.
    I have no DIY experience....I'm not quite sure I need the extreme of taking down plasterboards etc. I rang someone to do the air tightness test and he advised to seal all I can myself first and then get the airtight ness test to identify remaining problem areas.
    My question is which type of trademan should I get to put sealing tape behind skirting board, seal sockets and windows etc
    Thanks in advance


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,147 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Neds_K wrote: »
    Also I bought my house second hand....how can you find out which company originally threw up your timber frame house.
    I have no DIY experience....I'm not quite sure I need the extreme of taking down plasterboards etc. I rang someone to do the air tightness test and he advised to seal all I can myself first and then get the airtight ness test to identify remaining problem areas.
    My question is which type of trademan should I get to put sealing tape behind skirting board, seal sockets and windows etc
    Thanks in advance



    There is now a growing number of air-tightness contractors, It would help if you divulged Where in the country the house is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Neds_K


    BryanF wrote: »
    There is now a growing number of air-tightness contractors, It would help if you divulged Where in the country the house is

    Very glad to divulge :-). I'm Dublin North. From my understanding an independent builder built my house, a 2nd house on his corner site to keep & rent, but had to sell during crash. The finishings are of high quality but the drafts throughout the house rattle some doors. .doesn't make sense. Built 2006 before 2008 regulations
    Anyways any contractor recommendations much appreciated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,951 ✭✭✭MicktheMan


    Neds_K wrote: »
    .doesn't make sense.

    What doesn't?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Neds_K


    MicktheMan wrote: »
    What doesn't?

    That the builder was apparently keeping this house for himself, finishings to a high standard, but seems to have scrimped on sealing the house properly.
    It's all optics :-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭gizmo73


    Hi, has anyone used this crowd or know anything about them?
    I have a TFH and need to get something done with it.
    http://www.icynene.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 DrealDandman


    PWR, Prices depend on a number of factors the most important being sqft. I provide these kind of services but dont want to be kicked off here for advertising so I guess PM me for more details. Please be patient with me guys I'm new on here only finding my feet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 cnarf


    Has anybody come across an Irish equivalent of thid company
    http://www.retrofoamuk.com/timber-frame-wall-insulation.php


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,147 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    No data sheet. No Test cert, fire classification, no vabour barrier installed, no minimum cavities, no mention on continuity, limitations etc etc

    Based on the website and literature available this muck could ruin your home.

    I'd be interested in any answers you can get from the company


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 zergetek


    How about this?

    https://prosprayfoaminsulations.ie/timber-frame-insulation/



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