Stealing

Gilldog

My brother told me recently about his workmate who regularly steals food/ drink / newspapers from the shop near their work. He said that the guy volunteers to get everybody's lunch, and while he's there just hides his own stuff under his jacket, and has been getting away with it for ages :eek:.
Apparently, he also uses the self checkout things in Tesco when he can and always puts through one or two cheap items, and steals the rest.

And he's never been caught!

I'm a bit envious of the cheek of this guy, because im the total opposite - so paranoid that every security guard is watching my every move, even though I've never stolen anything.

Am I totally naive or do people do this regularly and think its ok??

Superbus

You wouldn't steal a lunch.

vicwatson

It's fine sure, no one minds, we're in a recession after all

(When the Gardai arrest him they wont give a sh1t about the recession, trust me, they'll let him go and won't press charges)

Mr Simpson

Fooking scumbag, stealing our jobs!!!!




/food

Chuck Stone

I grew out of that when I was about 12.

starbelgrade

I borrow films all the time.

Immaculate Pasta

There's nothing commendable about him OP. People who cheat the self service machines at Tesco are the lowest of the low. Worse than murderers, excessive ticklers, rapists and serial bigamists in my eyes :cool:

SeaFields

if you work in any type of retail you'll quickly learn that a sh!t load of stuff walks out the door everyday.

amacca

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I grew out of that when I was about 12.

I never grew into it.....I imagine a life of crime could be quite addictive when one would really commit to it though.

Chuck Stone

amacca wrote: »

I never grew into it.....I imagine a life of crime could be quite addictive when one would really commit to it though.

I dunno.

It's often been said that if the effort people put into being a drug dealer or career criminal was expended in the pursuit of a legitimate career path the person would be just as successful if not more so.

mojesius

Sounds like he is suffering from kleptomania and needs help. I had a friend like that when I was younger, it can become a very tough, sad situation.

brummytom

mojesius wrote: »

Sounds like he is suffering from kleptomania and needs help. I had a friend like that when I was younger, it can become a very tough, sad situation.

Why does everyone have to be suffering from something?


Some people are just thieving bastards.

Gilldog

Superbus wrote: »

You wouldn't steal a lunch.

Reminds me of that IT Crowd piracy ad - "you wouldn't steal a baby..!"

I dunno...maybe I just can't decide if I think he's an asshole for doing it or if im jealous of his skills.

starbelgrade

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I dunno.

It's often been said that if the effort people put into being a drug dealer or career criminal was expended in the pursuit of a legitimate career path the person would be just as successful if not more so.

I doubt it. Selling drugs & nicking stuff doesn't take much effort or any great level of skill or intelligence.

Immaculate Pasta

Never really got into the stealing from shops scene to be honest. Although Super Hans looks pretty cool when he does it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8mFdey7Pbo

:cool:

mojesius

brummytom wrote: »

Why does everyone have to be suffering from something?


Some people are just thieving bastards.

I didn't say everyone has to be suffering with something.

Just making an observation. If he keeps boasting about it and repeating it, he's obviously getting kicks off it - A possible symptom of kleptomania.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/kleptomania/DS01034/DSECTION=causes

saa

It sounds like this guy is doing it for the thrill which is so bad, if someone was stealing and not physically harming anyone for survival that is a different matter, a young misguided teen is even excusable.

Not a working man or a bored housewife, although the housewife isn't so bad as she won't get sacked from her job and feck up her chances of getting another one.

It's been really busy as it usually is during the Christmas shopping period and I've been in lots of situations where I could of slipped something up my sleeve or in my bag.. I don't have the money to buy these things really but I would feel so bad and guilty, I'd never be able to go back there because they know you've stolen after you've left the shop a lot of the time and pass your image onto the gaurds and over a bag of sweets and a sambo ah now.

saa

I feel like this guy has talked himself into thinking this is fine and puts back into his life a little spark of excitement again, its probably habitual if its an addiction issue than shoplifting isn't the problem its quite easy to avoid doing that its the dealing with whats pushing him to do that which is going to be the kicker.

John Doe1

I would never steal anything anyhoo im now off to download some albums from megaupload

shannon_tek

who steals now days.....:pac:

saa

John Doe1 wrote: »

I would never steal anything anyhoo im now off to download some albums from megaupload

You wouldn't steal a car?

starbelgrade

saa wrote: »

You wouldn't steal a car?

You would if you could download it.

johngalway

Gilldog wrote: »

Stealing

I read the title and thought, off with his hands.

Gilldog wrote: »

Tesco

Then I read who from and thought, give him a medal.

AgileMyth

Gilldog wrote: »

I'm a bit envious of the cheek of this guy, because im the total opposite - so paranoid that every security guard is watching my every move, even though I've never stolen anything.

The reason I don't steal has nothing to do with the security guard watching.

Its because I'm not a dick.

LighterGuy

Gilldog wrote: »

....Apparently, he also uses the self checkout things in Tesco when he can and always puts through one or two cheap items, and steals the rest. And he's never been caught!

Take that with a hefty pinch of salt op. Because thats a load of bull****.
Tesco aint fools. When the self-service till idea was popping around head office they immediately thought of people abusing it. Why you think there are so many precautions with its system?

I reckon ever since they were brought in, alot of people have all be saying how they stole shit. Putting 3 items through while not paying for 10. Such bull****. You could only get away with little small items and certainly not more than one or two of them.

ColeTrain

AgileMyth wrote: »

The reason I don't steal has nothing to do with the security guard watching.

Its because I'm not a dick.

This.

I can understand the old cliche of stealing a loaf of bread for your starving family etc. But anyone stealing newspapers who can obviously afford them is best avoided.

Johro

mojesius wrote: »

Sounds like he is suffering from kleptomania and needs help. I had a friend like that when I was younger, it can become a very tough, sad situation.

Or maybe he's just an opportunist. I used to shoplift regularly when I was in my teens. I grew out of it. Some people don't. He'll most likely stop when he gets caught, if not, the next time. Then if he doesn't stop, you could start thinking maybe he's a kleptomaniac. More likely he's just a thief.

charlemont

starbelgrade wrote: »

I doubt it. Selling drugs & nicking stuff doesn't take much effort or any great level of skill or intelligence.

Not at the lower levels anyway but look at those like the Penguin or Christy Kinahan, I'm sure these guys are very clever. They would need to be in their line of work.

LighterGuy

Everyone steals. In one way or the other.
You can get alot of hypocrisy with such threads as these. That its 'utter wrong' to steal. No matter how small it is... Same person downloads tho.

Seems to be a grey area between physical and digital.

Yakult

I used to steal when I was around 12. Every day after school myself and a friend would go into Super Valu, pick up and bottle of coke and a bag of walkers crisps each, walk out and sit on the bench and munch on. Did this for a year straight.
Then one day I stealing those sticky eye balls you can get over Halloween and got caught. He told me he was going to my parents and the guards so naturally at 12 I got pretty scared, cried I believe :pac: but he never went ahead with it. After that I stopped hanging with that douche of a friend and didn't ever rob again. i think he knew himself that he had changed my life for ever and fair play to him, he did.

ColeTrain

LighterGuy wrote: »

Everyone steals. In one way or the other.
You can get alot of hypocrisy with such threads as these. That its 'utter wrong' to steal. No matter how small it is... Same person downloads tho.

Seems to be a grey area between physical and digital.

Downloading isn't stealing, it's duplicating.

LighterGuy

ColeTrain wrote: »

Downloading isn't stealing, it's duplicating.

Knew someone would shit on about it!
Look, lets not derail this thread into downloading ... be it stealing, be in duplicating ... be it whatever. Each to their own.

But its the aspect of getting something for free that otherwise would cost you money to purchase. Call it what you want But call a spade a spade when it comes down to the defining aspect

psychward

The risk versus reward relationship seems messed up there.
Free Lunch versus a criminal record in a recession which will send your CV straight to the waste paper basket and prevent you from getting a Green Card etc.
Not only that but the guy is taking the risk on behalf of someone else who will eat the lunch without taking any of the risk. The guy hiding it under his coat also apparently pays for his own lunch while he hides lunch for others if I read correctly. None of that makes sense whether they pay him for the lunch he steals or not. Besides all of that it's just wrong and he shoudn't be doing it. For feck sake he even has a job. No excuses there.

ColeTrain

LighterGuy wrote: »

Knew someone would shit on about it!
Look, lets not derail this thread into downloading ... be it stealing, be in duplicating ... be it whatever. Each to their own.

But its the aspect of getting something for free that otherwise would cost you money to purchase. Call it what you want But call a spade a spade.

Just don't think you can say it's on par with petty theft.

It's like that anti-piracy advert you see when you actually buy a DVD.

"you wouldn't steal a handbag".

No I wouldn't but Im gonna download everything for now on because of your shi*e ad.

LighterGuy

ColeTrain wrote: »

Just don't think you can say it's on par with petty theft.

It's like that anti-piracy advert you see when you actually buy a DVD.

"you wouldn't steal a handbag".

No I wouldn't but Im gonna download everything for now on because of your shi*e ad.

Shite ad?
as in advert?
you feeling alright. you see an advert with my name on it?

ColeTrain

LighterGuy wrote: »

Shite ad?

Yes

LighterGuy wrote: »

as in advert?

Yea.

LighterGuy wrote: »

you feeling alright

Fine thanks, yourself?

LighterGuy wrote: »

you see an advert with my name on it?

No.

LighterGuy

Care to explain to me, and the rest of boards, as to what advert that would be?

or did you fu*k up and say advert instead of post & now trying to cover it up?

ColeTrain

LighterGuy wrote: »

Care to explain to me, and the rest of boards, as to what advert that would be?

or did you fu*k up and say advert instead of post & now trying to cover it up?

You're confusing yourself. I was ranting about the piracy advertisement, not you ffs.

davetherave

LighterGuy wrote: »

Care to explain to me, and the rest of boards, as to what advert that would be?

or did you fu*k up and say advert instead of post & now trying to cover it up?

I think he is actually talking about the "You wouldn't steal a handbag/car/baby/movie ads at the start of a dvd.

Johnny Foreigner

I can honestly say I have never stolen a thing in my life.
I feel better for it.
Over the years I have met some very prolific thieves, and experience has taught me to avoid these people.
I simply put people into 2 categories; criminals, and law abiding citizens.
I choose to have people around me that are law abiding citizens. When you are in prison you are not afforded that luxury, and that for me is enough deterrent.
I have been flat broke, homeless, and starving in my life. Believe me I have thought about stealing. I was so desperate I even considered committing a crime just to get jailed so I could be warm and fed.
But even in those times when I had nothing, I never stole.

LighterGuy

ColeTrain wrote: »

You're confusing yourself. I was ranting about the piracy advertisement, not you ffs.

Well, coletrain,
I just a right vibe off you.
A person who downloads .. and hey, i've downloaded my share over the years and will continue to do so ... But you justify your downloading as not stealing, but duplicating. To soften to blow to your conscience. While me, I download. So what. So be it.

And thats one thing I hate in a person ... While not being honest to themselves but also they try and justify (or mask) their actions onto others. To ease their conscience of doing something illegal. Rather than simply saying "i dont give a fuck"

LighterGuy

davetherave wrote: »

I think he is actually talking about the "You wouldn't steal a handbag/car/baby/movie ads at the start of a dvd.

But re-read my post.
I was making a statement about how the average person would not do what that annoying dvd advert says ... but would gladly download, buy off the illegal blackmarket, etc (rather than go into a shop and take)
The "grey area" as I said in my original post.

grizzly

LighterGuy wrote: »

Care to explain to me, and the rest of boards, as to what advert that would be?

or did you fu*k up and say advert instead of post & now trying to cover it up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZm8vNHBSU

gizmorox

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

There's nothing commendable about him OP. People who cheat the self service machines at Tesco are the lowest of the low. Worse than murderers, excessive ticklers, rapists and serial bigamists in my eyes :cool:

gizmorox

starbelgrade wrote: »

You would if you could download it.

Best post in this section so far:D

ColeTrain

LighterGuy wrote: »

Well, coletrain,
I just a right vibe off you.
A person who downloads .. and hey, i've downloaded my share over the years and will continue to do so ... But you justify your downloading as not stealing, but duplicating. To soften to blow to your conscience. While me, I download. So what. So be it.

And thats one thing I hate in a person ... While not being honest to themselves but also they try and justify (or mask) their actions onto others. To ease their conscience of doing something illegal. Rather than simply saying "i dont give a fuck"

Not being honest to myself?
Softening blows to my conscience?

You misread a post above and now you're trying to play forum psychiatrist so you don't look like such a tit. That's the vibe I'm getting off you and that's one thing I hate in a person.

gizmorox

Gilldog wrote: »

Reminds me of that IT Crowd piracy ad - "you wouldn't steal a baby..!"

I dunno...maybe I just can't decide if I think he's an asshole for doing it or if im jealous of his skills.

It's classic competitive behaviour,really think these people feel hard done by in life and it's their subconcious urge to settle their personal score,eg:thieve's co worker/friend,family member buys new luxurious item,thief gets jealous and steals something luxurious for themselves to compensate their feelings of financial inadequacy.just a theory of mine.Know a girl(defo not me btw) and this girl steals most of her own clothes,changes barcode stickers to the price she likes and more but certainly don't want to promote these actions by describing them in detail,might give somebody ideas;) she's calmed it done a lot,strangely enough soon after the end of "The Celtic Tiger";)

LighterGuy

ColeTrain wrote: »

Not being honest to myself?
Softening blows to my conscience?

You misread a post above and now you're trying to play forum psychiatrist so you don't look like such a tit. That's the vibe I'm getting off you and that's one thing I hate in a person.

Thats odd.
You've recycled my previous post....that being the themes of misread + directing an assumption to ones own character. Is that not a rehash?

Doesnt take a psychiatrist to spot that .. or perhaps you were trying to spin what I said onto myself to validate your opinion? .... poorly. Mister "i'd never steal, i only duplicate! theres a difference mister bad man!" :pac:

ColeTrain

LighterGuy wrote: »

Thats odd.
You've recycled my previous post....that being the themes of misread + directing an assumption to ones own character. Is that not a rehash?

Doesnt take a psychiatrist to spot that .. or perhaps you were trying to spin what I said onto myself to validate your opinion? .... poorly. Mister "i'd never steal, i only duplicate! theres a difference mister bad man!" :pac:

WTF are you on about?

LighterGuy

ColeTrain wrote: »

WTF are you on about?

Ahhh, I'm just slagging you
Because you are the type of person to justify every so called "bad thing" to yourself, and project your innocence on to others. As illustrated with your "its duplicating" post ... (you can read alot from what a person says in certain topics)

Don't take it personally. I've just met my fair share of people who twist what they do in life. To suit their conscience. In this example, I download and I quite frankly dont give a fu*k. I admit its illegal. But you ... you're the type of guy who downloads and says its nothing 'wrong' ... not for legal reasons. Because its who you are

Liam Byrne

So your brother knows and hasn't reported him ?