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Overweight Musicians Appreciation Thread

  • 15-12-2011 10:05pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭


    Following Malice's awesome suggestion.

    I will start with not only my favourite tubby musician, but my favourite musician ever.

    Brian Wilson - The twentieth century's greatest and quirkiest musical genius




    Make your suggestions.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    Following Malice's awesome suggestion.

    I will start with not only my favourite tubby musician, but my favourite musician ever.

    Brian Wilson - The twentieth century's greatest and quirkiest musical genius


    Make your suggestions.

    Here's what he looked like when they were signed

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Duke Leonal Felmet


    boneitis wrote: »
    Here's what he looked like when they were signed

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    I think off.the.walls was on.the.ball.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    I think off.the.walls was on.the.ball.

    I already figured that out.

    There's lot's of overweight musicians, some I really love, but as a percentage of the whole they represent about 1/10th of one percent.

    That being said, it's all a personal choice.. if you wanna be an overweight musician, I won't judge you, but there's a LOT of people that will.

    For the record, I much preferred fat Elvis.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Duke Leonal Felmet


    boneitis wrote: »
    I already figured that out.

    There's lot's of overweight musicians, some I really love, but as a percentage of the whole they represent about 1/10th of one percent.

    That being said, it's all a personal choice.. if you wanna be an overweight musician, I won't judge you, but there's a LOT of people that will.

    For the record, I much preferred fat Elvis.

    This thread isn't about you, nor is it about fat musicians getting signed.

    My thread, my standards, etc. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    This thread isn't about you, nor is it about fat musicians getting signed.

    My thread, my standards, etc. ;)

    That's why I listed Elvis.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Duke Leonal Felmet


    boneitis wrote: »
    This thread isn't about you, nor is it about fat musicians getting signed.

    My thread, my standards, etc. ;)

    That's why I listed Elvis.

    And yet you felt the need to post a picture of a skinny Brian Wilson. Why?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So if this isn't about fat musicians getting signed, why is it in bands and musicians and not the general music forum?

    What does it have to being in a band or a musician?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Duke Leonal Felmet


    Sigh

    *clicks unfollow*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    And yet you felt the need to post a picture of a skinny Brian Wilson. Why?

    Because I'd disagree he's an overweight musician, and as you are aware of the content of the other thread I decided to reference that, in the context of this thread.

    Like I've always said, I personally don't have anything against overweight musicians. But Brian Wilson isn't really a great example. He got chunky when he was old, but back when he was a genius he wasn't really all that big... that was the point of my photo... of course, who's to say if all the beach boys looked like BW did 67-69, they'd have been fired... on top of all of that... it was the 60s... people were a lot let image concious then...

    Another great example is Janis...

    Go into the 80s and it's a lot harder to find popular overweight artists... worse still in the 90s... etc., etc.

    Adele is a great step forward IMO, but... I have heard out of the mouth of someone from her label that Adele was pushed as a "alternative" to the skinny girls as a cynical move... she's "real" etc.

    Other great examples would be Frank Black...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭raindog.promo


    You've just hijacked this guy's thread after giving out about your own thread being hi-jacked.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,070 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    I wish people would act on my suggestions more often :).

    Moved to Music.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    ?uestlove!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭off.the.walls


    Jesus lads after all this i'm going on a diet of steroids and weights boneitis has me feeling fat now ;) hahahahahahahaha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭unclebill98


    BB King.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    Bob Hite "The Bear" (Canned Heat)

    Peter Greene

    Van Morrison

    Buddy Whittington (see below)




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    Jesus lads after all this i'm going on a diet of steroids and weights boneitis has me feeling fat now ;) hahahahahahahaha

    Do not do steroids.

    If you wanna do it the famous musician way, try cocaine, cigarettes and bulimia.

    Dont do that either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    Big mention for Tom "Pig Champion" Roberts (front) and Jerry A. (right) of punk legends Poison Idea. Took enough drugs to kill a herd of elephants too.

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    Also the Conner brothers in Screaming Trees, they made Mark Lanegan look like a twiglet.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Mama Cass

    choked to death on a chicken sandwich


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    fryup wrote: »
    Mama Cass

    choked to death on a chicken sandwich

    funny, but untrue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Here's 3 great ones right here


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    fryup wrote: »
    Mama Cass

    choked to death on a chicken sandwich
    boneitis wrote: »
    funny, but untrue

    yes thats right..........it was a ham sandwich


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    fryup wrote: »
    yes thats right..........it was a ham sandwich

    Ha!

    For the unaware, it was a heart attack. No sandwich involvement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭Sl!mCharles


    Biggie lads, Biggie - also John Martyn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    Some that I don't like, but which were... super-sized

    John Popper

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    Shawn Lane

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    They don't get much heavier or better than Big Pun. He was 780 pounds at his heaviest, just before he died from a heart attack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    They don't get much heavier or better than Big Pun. He was 780 pounds at his heaviest, just before he died from a heart attack.

    ****en yes. Some mates played this song at a session a while ago, I was completely blown away, the sickest two bars I've ever heard;

    "Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know that we riddled to middle men who didn't do diddly"



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Darryl Pandy - one of the funniest Top of the Pops performances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    I don't really see the point of this thread, but if I need to find the biggest people I can think of in the music Industry today (two people I've recently met and spoken too at length about weight and what not, considering I struggle with my own) then they would have to be Chris Burnley, Byron Stroud and Dino Cazares

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    I don't really see the point of this thread

    Now that you mention it.....yeah, what is the point of this thread ? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭Stompbox


    Frank-Black-Launches-Label.jpg

    How are we forgetting this guy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    Sweet wrote: »
    Frank-Black-Launches-Label.jpg

    How are we forgetting this guy?
    boneitis wrote: »
    Other great examples would be Frank Black...


    We are forgetting this guy though:


    Song originally by Van Morrison for extra fat points


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    El Pr0n wrote: »
    They don't get much heavier or better than Big Pun. He was 780 pounds at his heaviest, just before he died from a heart attack.

    ****en yes. Some mates played this song at a session a while ago, I was completely blown away, the sickest two bars I've ever heard;

    "Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know that we riddled to middle men who didn't do diddly"


    And people say that rap music is retards attempting poetry ha ha. His flow is sensational. Lobe the way he changes languages in his songs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,947 ✭✭✭✭Rothko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭TheMutations


    Rigsby wrote: »
    Now that you mention it.....yeah, what is the point of this thread ? :confused:

    A poster in the bands & musicians forum put up a thread looking for a bass player, but didn't want any fat people applying for the position because they were afraid some record company wouldn't sign their band. Another poster took issue with this, and set up this thread to prove that fat people aren't losers.

    Somehow the thread got moved here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    A poster in the bands & musicians forum put up a thread looking for a bass player, but didn't want any fat people applying for the position because they were afraid some record company wouldn't sign their band. Another poster took issue with this, and set up this thread to prove that fat people aren't losers.

    Somehow the thread got moved here.

    I'm not afraid of anything.

    I am realistic about the difficult nature of the music business. So to minimise the chance of failure I am being very picky about who I choose. I gave the example of obese musicians. I could have given any number of examples.

    At any rate someone decided to attack me personally, as they thought my realism was somehow a personal predjudice. And they assumed that the music industry somehow would see past looks and go for quality.

    Because you know, you turn on the radio and it's full of musical masterpieces and you read the music press and it's full of pictures of fat ugly successful musicians.

    I don't make the "rules" the industry plays by, but am clever enough to recognise reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭TheMutations


    boneitis wrote: »
    I'm not afraid of anything.

    I am realistic about the difficult nature of the music business. So to minimise the chance of failure I am being very picky about who I choose. I gave the example of obese musicians. I could have given any number of examples.
    So fat equals failure?
    boneitis wrote: »
    At any rate someone decided to attack me personally, as they thought my realism was somehow a personal predjudice. And they assumed that the music industry somehow would see past looks and go for quality.

    Simon Cowell did it with Susan Boyle. Adele is another example. Two of the biggest selling artists of the last five years. Simon Cowell doesn't strike me as being someone who is a dreamer
    boneitis wrote: »
    Because you know, you turn on the radio and it's full of musical masterpieces and you read the music press and it's full of pictures of fat ugly successful musicians.

    I don't make the "rules" the industry plays by, but am clever enough to recognise reality.

    Lots of examples in this thread of "fat ugly successful musicians". Most have had extensive coverage in the music press and in the mainstream press. And as for the "rules". Who exactly has been advising you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Colibri


    Forgetting the champion:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    boneitis wrote: »
    I'm not afraid of anything.

    I am realistic about the difficult nature of the music business. So to minimise the chance of failure I am being very picky about who I choose. I gave the example of obese musicians. I could have given any number of examples.

    At any rate someone decided to attack me personally, as they thought my realism was somehow a personal predjudice. And they assumed that the music industry somehow would see past looks and go for quality.

    Because you know, you turn on the radio and it's full of musical masterpieces and you read the music press and it's full of pictures of fat ugly successful musicians.

    I don't make the "rules" the industry plays by, but am clever enough to recognise reality.

    That's quite a skewed reality, or a very small sample you're examining.
    Are you looking to start a boyband?
    Because when I think of the most respected musicians throughout the history of popular music, most are conventionally unattractive except that they've got a guitar around their neck. Christ, it's one of the top reasons men start bands!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 212 ✭✭RC88


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    Leslie West(The Fattest Fingers in Rock N' Roll), one of the great guitarists of early heavy metal/rock music


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    So fat equals failure?



    Simon Cowell did it with Susan Boyle. Adele is another example. Two of the biggest selling artists of the last five years. Simon Cowell doesn't strike me as being someone who is a dreamer



    Lots of examples in this thread of "fat ugly successful musicians". Most have had extensive coverage in the music press and in the mainstream press. And as for the "rules". Who exactly has been advising you?


    This is another one of those reactionary posts that completely misses the point, a point this thread makes quite well... the MAJORITY, and that's the VAST VAST VAST majority of professional popular musicians are not overweight, especially when they get their break.

    This is undeniable.

    And it's logical.

    Most people working in the industry are not hugely motivated or passionate. They are doing a job. The harder you make their job (i.e. the more they have to re-create their model to sell you) the less likely you are to get a chance. Pure business.

    There are almost always exceptions to every rule, and that's the point. The RULE is make the business side easy and you increase your chances.

    Put it another way, two bands with the same material appear in a labels office:

    Band A is attractive
    Band B is fat and old (those aren't MY standards, those are society's standards)

    Which has a better chance?



    The best plan is to be:

    Visually together
    Have strong material
    Be nice
    Be professional

    If you don't tick all of those boxes a band/artist that does will get your chance.

    This isn't actually controversial, it's just unpleasant. If you want to succeed, be realistic; that's my advice to anyone that's serious about this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    Sinfonia wrote: »
    That's quite a skewed reality, or a very small sample you're examining.
    Are you looking to start a boyband?
    Because when I think of the most respected musicians throughout the history of popular music, most are conventionally unattractive except that they've got a guitar around their neck. Christ, it's one of the top reasons men start bands!

    That's factually untrue.

    MOST musicians these days are NOT fat. Most are NOT unattractive.

    Many are bland, but that's not a net negative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,070 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Rigsby wrote: »
    Now that you mention it.....yeah, what is the point of this thread ? :confused:
    You'd probably have to ask the thread starter but it'll be a bit difficult now because they've closed their account. Basically I told posters over in the Bands & Musicians forum to start a thread if they wanted to celebrate overweight musicians or whatever since the thread that they were posting on was moving far away from its intended purpose.
    A poster in the bands & musicians forum put up a thread looking for a bass player, but didn't want any fat people applying for the position because they were afraid some record company wouldn't sign their band. Another poster took issue with this, and set up this thread to prove that fat people aren't losers.

    Somehow the thread got moved here.
    That's not what was expressed, nor was boneitis afraid of anything and I would assume the starter of this thread certainly didn't want to prove fat people aren't losers since nobody actually said that on the previous thread. As for the thread being somehow moved, it's not rocket surgery, I moved the thread because it was created in the wrong forum and was better off in this one.
    So fat equals failure?
    That's not what boneitis said. Four incorrect points in two posts, nice job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭TheMutations


    boneitis wrote: »
    I'm not afraid of anything.

    I am realistic about the difficult nature of the music business. So to minimise the chance of failure I am being very picky about who I choose. I gave the example of obese musicians. I could have given any number of examples.

    At any rate someone decided to attack me personally, as they thought my realism was somehow a personal predjudice. And they assumed that the music industry somehow would see past looks and go for quality.

    Because you know, you turn on the radio and it's full of musical masterpieces and you read the music press and it's full of pictures of fat ugly successful musicians.

    I don't make the "rules" the industry plays by, but am clever enough to recognise reality.
    boneitis wrote: »
    This is another one of those reactionary posts that completely misses the point, a point this thread makes quite well... the MAJORITY, and that's the VAST VAST VAST majority of professional popular musicians are not overweight, especially when they get their break.

    This is undeniable.

    And it's logical.

    Most people working in the industry are not hugely motivated or passionate. They are doing a job. The harder you make their job (i.e. the more they have to re-create their model to sell you) the less likely you are to get a chance. Pure business.

    There are almost always exceptions to every rule, and that's the point. The RULE is make the business side easy and you increase your chances.

    Put it another way, two bands with the same material appear in a labels office:

    Band A is attractive
    Band B is fat and old (those aren't MY standards, those are society's standards)

    Which has a better chance?



    The best plan is to be:

    Visually together
    Have strong material
    Be nice
    Be professional

    If you don't tick all of those boxes a band/artist that does will get your chance.

    This isn't actually controversial, it's just unpleasant. If you want to succeed, be realistic; that's my advice to anyone that's serious about this.

    For most industry people, the bottom line is the quality of the music. None of your arguments are convincing me. Having an overweight bass player in a line up would not be an issue to competent professionals, as long as the music is up to scratch. They can work wonders. As a matter of fact, the best professionals will relish the challenge of going against the grain.

    If the quality of your support team is that of people who don't enjoy their work, then having an over-weight bass player is the least of your worries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    carmilladark_5178730_Rory_Gallagher_1993.jpg

    Sadly our very own Rory Gallagher :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    For most industry people, the bottom line is the quality of the music. None of your arguments are convincing me. Having an overweight bass player in a line up would not be an issue to competent professionals, as long as the music is up to scratch. They can work wonders. As a matter of fact, the best professionals will relish the challenge of going against the grain.

    If the quality of your support team is that of people who don't enjoy their work, then having an over-weight bass player is the least of your worries.

    This is absolutely the wrong attitude and inaccurate.

    Ever been on a major label? I have. I have sat in meetings where musicians were thrust on me based on looks. I have also heard many a band being dismissed, out of hand because they didn't look right.

    People are shallow, most bands are never even listened to.

    If you wanna make it past the slush pile you have to be the whole package.

    For every opportunity, theres multiple people ready, who do look right, who do have the material and the right attitude. If you're not ready you don't get the chance.

    Btw., I'm not trying to convince you, I've lived it and know the score. You can believe me or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭TheMutations


    Can we hear your music?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    Can we hear your music?

    Normally I'd say yes, but this boards persona is being used to anonymously scout for a bassist and part of that anonymity is not posting tunes.

    Sorry about that.

    Once the bassist wanted thing is over, if I can I'll post some stuff up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭TheMutations


    Looking forward to hearing it. It will certainly clarify a few things.


    You know, there is an awful lot of overweight people out there more than ever before; and even more people who think they are overweight but aren't. Especially people in your target market. Getting an overweight bassist would be an advantage.

    Some people like to escape into a fantasy world, but most would like to know that there are others out there that feel the same as they do. That they are not alone. Music plays a huge part in this type of process.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭boneitis


    Looking forward to hearing it. It will certainly clarify a few things.


    You know, there is an awful lot of overweight people out there more than ever before; and even more people who think they are overweight but aren't. Especially people in your target market. Getting an overweight bassist would be an advantage.

    Some people like to escape into a fantasy world, but most would like to know that there are others out there that feel the same as they do. That they are not alone. Music plays a huge part in this type of process.

    You have no argument with me. You however would have a hard time with 99.9% of the people that hold the purse strings in the entertainment industry.


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