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Free Speech on Boards

  • 14-12-2011 4:30pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭


    You do not have Free speech on Boards
    How does this make you feel ??

    I know in the States if a user posts something on a website the user is responsible, not the site.

    In Europe the site is responsilbe, not the user.
    Not sure about the rest of the world tbh.

    This is obviously why we don't have free speech on sites in Europe.

    Mods - Has Boards ever actaully been sued by a company for slander that was posted by a user on this site or have they just been bullied & threatened to the extend that Mr. Boards pood his pants and said "OK, I give in, let's censor everything.

    or

    Is boards.ie just really really really PC, health & Safety mad ???

    Free Speech 102 votes

    Not Happy about not having free speech
    0%
    couldn't care less
    100%
    Mountjoy MuggerDermoRabiesomahaidPherekydes[Deleted User]BarabooRichieCBenny_CakeXenophilebedrock#1davetheraveRiesen_Meal[Deleted User]blubloblusubwaycureheadOrando BroomCavehill RedMorlar 102 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    You do not have Free speech on Boards
    How does this make you feel ??

    Hungry, then sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I can say whatever I damn well want, I'd just end up banned for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    couldn't care less
    I feel both Not Happy about not having free speech *and* couldn't care less


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    couldn't care less
    Voted for both in protest at something, not sure what :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    couldn't care less
    Same here I voted both, check boxes are not good for yes/no for polls with yes/no style answers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Faolchu


    I know of one case where boards was sued, and i know of one where they were threatened


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    Stiffler2 wrote: »

    Mods - Has Boards ever actaully been sued by a company for slander that was posted by a user on this site or have they just been bullied & threatened to the extend that Mr. Boards pood his pants and said "OK, I give in, let's censor everything.

    MCD sued a long time ago. Can't remember the outcome but do remember that you couldn't mention Oxegen or any MCD events for a lonnngggg time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    In Europe the site is responsilbe, not the user.
    Not sure about the rest of the world tbh.

    In Europe, and the US, the site must remove the illegal or offensive material within a reasonable amount of time once they have been notified.

    But that's not the reason you don't have free speech.

    The reason you don't have free speech is because no one gives a shit what you have to say.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    D-Generate wrote: »
    MCD sued a long time ago. Can't remember the outcome but do remember that you couldn't mention Oxegen or any MCD events for a lonnngggg time.

    Ye I see that as I am googling boards sued but this is the only company I can find that have attempted to sue boards. It looks as if they pulled out of it though. If this is the case then has anyone else tried to sue ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,640 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    I charge €2gazillion for each speech. Giving away speech for free is a mugs game.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    couldn't care less
    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    Ye I see that as I am googling boards sued but this is the only company I can find that have attempted to sue boards. It looks as if they pulled out of it though. If this is the case then has anyone else tried to sue ?

    Why would you leave yourself open to the threat though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Mountjoy Mugger


    couldn't care less
    Couldn't care lessdecide, so voted for both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    couldn't care less
    I voted for both 'cos I'm fair cool like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I think you can say what you want,you just have to phrase it correctly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    couldn't care less
    I don't mind as long as it is policed fairly :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭rich.d.berry


    Where's the What people are allowed to post on boards.ie is moderated in everyone's best interest, and I'm delighted about it! button?

    I would have clicked that.

    Without it, I abstain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    I know in the States if a user posts something on a website the user is responsible, not the site.

    I'm pretty sure that that is not correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    MCD didn't like people telling the truth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,125 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    couldn't care less
    I know it's the site's line that you do not have freedom of speech here, but really you do to a certain degree

    FoS is not absolute, anywhere. It's limited by a number of things; like libel, obscenities, incitement etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    I think you can say what you want,you just have to phrase it correctly

    I'm going to assassinate the Taoiseach, hypothetically of course.

    I brutally murdered a small child, hypothetically of course.

    I killed Michael Jackson, hypothetically of course.

    I directed The Room, hypothetically of course.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    The truth is not always in everybodys interests ,especially if it's to close to home for some .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    I can see this being a lengthy one! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    I can see this being a lengthy one! :cool:

    That's what she said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭jd007


    couldn't care less
    Multi choice polls ftw!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    couldn't care less
    Pretty sure free speech is allowed on here.

    Muppet speech would be frowned upon generally..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    People don't appreciate anything they get free or know how to put it to good use, and that includes speech.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Sigh, open thread about free speech in a forum that closes threads on boards policy, get to moan about it being proof later.


    Someone make an image macro :D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Sigh, open thread about free speech in a forum that closes threads on boards policy, get to moan about it being proof later.


    Someone make an image macro :D

    I should really close it but I'm constantly getting distracted by just how much pokemon sucks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    I have to be honest OP

    if you actually had free speech,

    I seriously doubt you would have anything to say worth hearing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭megaten


    Don't really care. It not like Boards.ie is the only website in the world where you can post your opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    What started the whole MCD thing anyway, well i know in general, but would love to know the specifics...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    If you had to pay the bill for what I say, you wouldn't be long changing your mind ;)

    Now that I think of it, it's probably better this way. Think of all the people who've been saved from their own stupidity by having comments edited or removed ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    What started the whole MCD thing anyway, well i know in general, but would love to know the specifics...

    People generally bad mouthing Oxegen and talking about things happening in certain campsites which they technically didn't provide proof of. So MCD decided to sue.

    Since by Irish laws Boards was responsible they could have won, except a test case came up before the boards one so talking about MCD events and Oxegen was allowed again because of some ruling in favour of open discussion.

    RE: Free Speech, there is exactly enough free speech as is needed here, I don't want some bigoted cnuts getting to post here on the basis of "Free Speech" so it's good the way it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    couldn't care less
    I checked both options as someone who should be well versed with the kernel of Macs should know how to put up radial buttons instead of check boxes. Hweh hweh hweh. There's my free speech.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I find that the people who shout the loudest and get the most annoyed about "not having free speech" etc. are people in the prison forum.

    Normally they're there because they were trying to advertise their company for free or were trying to libel another business/individual.

    Of course if the shoe was on the other foot they'd be the first to threaten to sue the website in their hilarious style.

    "I am forwarding all this to my solisiter." :rolleyes:

    A. I doubt you have a solicitor as you can't spell the word.
    B. Legal threat = instant siteban.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    I couldn't care less tbh because it's just boards.ie covering themselves.
    What i don't get is the way you're not allowed drag up an old thread to discuss the topic, and a lot of times if you start a thread about said topic, it will be locked because it has been discussed before, this is typical boards.ie bullsh1t :pac:

    also, why "******" bad words and allow users to easily get around it if they want, so fucking stupid?


    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    couldn't care less
    I couldn't care less tbh because it's just boards.ie covering themselves.
    What i don't get is the way you're not allowed drag up an old thread to discuss the topic, and a lot of times if you start a thread about said topic, it will be locked because it has been discussed before, this is typical boards.ie bullsh1t :pac:

    also, why "******" bad words and allow users to easily get around it if they want, so fucking stupid?


    :pac:


    A lot of times when old thread are dragged up they are closed because information may have changed or be no longer relevant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    The easiest way is to buy boards. Then your in charge. and the law will be laid down. it will be moved out of Ireland and no longer an Irish Site. twill become AmausengIrish
    I had a dream about this last night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,464 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    couldn't care less
    You have free speech, as long as it's grounded in fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    couldn't care less
    I like how Mr. Free Speech, Stiffler, neglected to tell everyone his poll was open and everyone could see who voted where.

    Nice one you ******* *********.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    Seachmall wrote: »
    I'm going to assassinate the Taoiseach, hypothetically of course.

    I brutally murdered a small child, hypothetically of course.

    I killed Michael Jackson, hypothetically of course.

    I directed The Room, hypothetically of course.

    Oh, hai Mark


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭MyKeyG


    Except for the fact you can't talk about open legal proceedings and the odd Mod abusing his authority I find boards fairly open.

    Now I have to go. I'm on jury duty in the case about yer man who killed his girlfriend and we're considering sending the bollocks down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    to be fair, 4chan is the last post of free speech left on the internet. If AH allowed free speech ID be posting a lot more tidbits of opinions, we all signed up to boards knowing its not a free speech zone, if you dont like it, off to 4chan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Stiffler2 wrote: »
    You do not have Free speech on Boards
    How does this make you feel ??

    I know in the States if a user posts something on a website the user is responsible, not the site.

    In Europe the site is responsilbe, not the user.
    Not sure about the rest of the world tbh.

    This is obviously why we don't have free speech on sites in Europe.

    Mods - Has Boards ever actaully been sued by a company for slander that was posted by a user on this site or have they just been bullied & threatened to the extend that Mr. Boards pood his pants and said "OK, I give in, let's censor everything.

    or

    Is boards.ie just really really really PC, health & Safety mad ???

    What a noob.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    Free speech as long as reasoning and/or proof accompanies it ..! :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    I think you can say what you want,you just have to phrase it correctly
    Indeed .If you come across as somebody typing with one hand and a steak knife in the other it will soon show up :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    red menace wrote: »
    A lot of times when old thread are dragged up they are closed because information may have changed or be no longer relevant

    That's not the point i made but whatever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,314 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I thought it was against the rules to give or seek advice on how to break the law. But it appears the rules are not applied in threads about the TV licence and the household charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    I thought it was against the rules to give or seek advice on how to break the law. But it appears the rules are not applied in threads about the TV licence and the household charge.

    To be fair half the TD's in the country are telling people to stand up and not pay the household charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    I thought it was against the rules to give or seek advice on how to break the law. But it appears the rules are not applied in threads about the TV licence and the household charge.

    tax avoision isnt a crime really


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