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I wore the Union Jack today

  • 11-12-2011 2:36am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭


    Today i wore a union jack tshirt in the city centre of Dublin and was shocked at the amount of abuse i got from people. From living in London nobody wearing a national tshirt ever got abuse apart from scumbags(which are in every country unfortunately). from asking friends i have who are Irish they seem to think its a joke because i'm English , if this happened to an an Irish person in England it'd be a big deal, an unreal amount of Irish people support English teams and wear their shirts with pride yet those are the same people who were givning me abuse about my union jack shirt


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ThePower11


    Try wearing a Rangers jersey around Dublin and then see what happens!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Did you wear it for a bet ?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    I'd abuse anyone who has so little respect for their national flag they'd wear it as a t-shirt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    I got called a paddy walking around London wearing a GAA jersey, so I don't think it is limited to Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭drdeadlift


    ThePower11 wrote: »
    Try wearing a Rangers jersey around Dublin and then see what happens!

    What would happen


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Which town?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    You wore a Union flag on your shirt. A Union Jack hangs off a ship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭drdeadlift


    Which town?

    Dublin of course


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    Today i wore a union jack tshirt in the city centre of Dublin and was shocked at the amount of abuse i got from people. From living in London nobody wearing a national tshirt ever got abuse apart from scumbags(which are in every country unfortunately). from asking friends i have who are Irish they seem to think its a joke because i'm English , if this happened to an an Irish person in England it'd be a big deal, an unreal amount of Irish people support English teams and wear their shirts with pride yet those are the same people who were givning me abuse about my union jack shirt

    What kind of abuse???

    I dont believe for one minute,you were walking innocently on..lets say O Connell
    St and you got harrassed??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭Dannyg90


    just because i wore it as i a tshirt does it mean i deserve the abuse then? and im not talkin about abuse like being called a paddy(which is bad too) i mean really offensive abuse which is uncalled for just for wearing my national colours. never experienced this in my life and every Irish person i ask seems to think im askin for it because of the past, just wanting to know are all Irish people in the same mind set


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    an unreal amount of Irish people support English teams and wear their shirts with pride yet those are the same people who were givning me abuse about my union jack shirt

    Rightly or wrongly, to certain people a soccer jersey and a union jack tshirt represent two completely different things.

    The irish flag is supposed to represent the peace between the protestant and catholic communities but you wouldn't go into the heart of a unionist stronghold in the north draped in the tricolor and expect to be welcomed with open arms


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭User Friendly


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    Today i wore a union jack tshirt in the city centre of Dublin and was shocked at the amount of abuse i got from people. From living in London nobody wearing a national tshirt ever got abuse apart from scumbags(which are in every country unfortunately). from asking friends i have who are Irish they seem to think its a joke because i'm English , if this happened to an an Irish person in England it'd be a big deal, an unreal amount of Irish people support English teams and wear their shirts with pride yet those are the same people who were givning me abuse about my union jack shirt

    you dont even know your country's flag geezer do you? its the st Georges flag in case anyone asks;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    What did you expect? Its seen as more a taunt than national pride to do something like that. You would have gotten a similar reaction if you wore a swastika or a red hand, its a flammatory thing to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭Dannyg90


    chucken1 wrote: »
    What kind of abuse???

    I dont believe for one minute,you were walking innocently on..lets say O Connell
    St and you got harrassed??

    yes i said Dublin city centre, was called an English ****, **** off back to england etc, and it was on o'connel street and henry street i most of the stick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace


    chucken1 wrote: »
    What kind of abuse???

    I dont believe for one minute,you were walking innocently on..lets say O Connell
    St and you got harrassed??

    I agree with this. I find it very, very hard to believe that anyone abused you for wearing that t-shirt.

    But giving you the benefit of the doubt, what abuse did you receive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭muletide


    Do you have a lack of common sense - Yes it is an unfortunate overhang of our history but alot of people ( while quite nonplussed to all things Britain hence the premier league jerseys) dislike overt displays of our previous overlords.

    Please note that I am not condoning their reactions, and i am delighted with the way we have dragged ourselves out of the dark ages, but merely pointing out that you are obviously an attention seeking cu.t who wanted to make yourself feel worthwhile and your little stunt has achieved this - in your head.

    Anyway happy christmas or whatever you are having.

    mod: poster banned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    never happened anyway. the OP's fishing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭Dannyg90


    What did you expect? Its seen as more a taunt than national pride to do something like that. You would have gotten a similar reaction if you wore a swastika or a red hand, its a flammatory thing to do.

    i expected to be allowed to wear what i wanted in a free country without hassle! are you telling me that if i wore an england jersey in Germany i would get abuse? because when i was there i never had one word said against me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    just because i wore it as i a tshirt does it mean i deserve the abuse then? and im not talkin about abuse like being called a paddy(which is bad too) i mean really offensive abuse which is uncalled for just for wearing my national colours. never experienced this in my life and every Irish person i ask seems to think im askin for it because of the past, just wanting to know are all Irish people in the same mind set

    No we are not Danny, You will always meet ignorant muppets obsessed with the past in this country, Ignore them they are not the majority anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    just because i wore it as i a tshirt does it mean i deserve the abuse then? and im not talkin about abuse like being called a paddy(which is bad too) i mean really offensive abuse which is uncalled for just for wearing my national colours. never experienced this in my life and every Irish person i ask seems to think im askin for it because of the past, just wanting to know are all Irish people in the same mind set

    Odd??? You can find capital I for Irish....not for i

    I call shenaigans.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    You wear a Union flag t-shirt in the capital of Ireland and you're shocked you got abuse over it from some people? I get abuse from random folk for no reason, too :pac:

    I wear my national flag up the north in a strong unionist area and I'd get a swift kick up the arse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭drdeadlift


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    just because i wore it as i a tshirt does it mean i deserve the abuse then? and im not talkin about abuse like being called a paddy(which is bad too) i mean really offensive abuse which is uncalled for just for wearing my national colours. never experienced this in my life and every Irish person i ask seems to think im askin for it because of the past, just wanting to know are all Irish people in the same mind set

    The gas thing is we spend all our gardai budget on protecting the queen on her visit now we need to shut down 14 cop shops...They said it was going to bring tourism!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Dj Stiggie


    In fairness, regardless of whether you were wearing this or a similar shirt with a different flag (Google didn't return any tri-colour equivalent) anywhere, I'd think you were a dickhead.

    Wouldn't give you abuse for it though. But I would definitely think you were a dickhead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭Dannyg90


    RichieC wrote: »
    never happened anyway. the OP's fishing.
    it did happen i have lived in Ireland for 10 years, every twat wears an English jersey for football yet as i see people seem to think its ok to say **** to me wearing a union jack. im not attention seeking, it was a present i wore it without thinking and was shocked at the reaction


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    You shouldn't get abuse but you will by nobs so if you want to wear it then more power but there is always going to be nobs giving you abuse for it. It would happen if an Irish person did the same in England.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    Well a lot of Irish people are ignorant racist prícks. You should genuinly do this more to piss them off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Just tell them to fook off the next time.

    My mates english and wore the english jersey, qpr jersey etc and he only got the odd stupid comment.

    I do have to remind him not to sing "we are the rangers boys" sometimes though. Sometimes people don't realise he's on about qpr. Funny though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    it did happen i have lived in Ireland for 10 years, every twat wears an English jersey for football yet as i see people seem to think its ok to say **** to me wearing a union jack. im not attention seeking, it was a present i wore it without thinking and was shocked at the reaction

    You seem very angry :(

    Can you tell us what the abuse was????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    just because i wore it as i a tshirt does it mean i deserve the abuse then? and im not talkin about abuse like being called a paddy(which is bad too) i mean really offensive abuse which is uncalled for just for wearing my national colours. never experienced this in my life and every Irish person i ask seems to think im askin for it because of the past, just wanting to know are all Irish people in the same mind set

    So being called a Paddy isn't 'really offensive abuse'? Interesting.
    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    i expected to be allowed to wear what i wanted in a free country without hassle! are you telling me that if i wore an england jersey in Germany i would get abuse? because when i was there i never had one word said against me

    Ah yes, "it's a free country": everyone's favorite excuse for attention-seeking obnoxious behavior.

    So if you wore a Real Madrid jersey to a Barca game, you're telling me you would be shocked to get abuse because it's a 'free country'?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭tommyboy2222


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    yes i said Dublin city centre, was called an English ****, **** off back to england etc, and it was on o'connel street and henry street i most of the stick

    Wouldn't have happened on the south side :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    800 years of building us hospitals, roads and teaching us a modern language we should be thanking the OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    800 years of building us hospitals, roads and teaching us a modern language we should be thanking the OP.
    I suppose you're ignoring the mass murder and conquest, so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I suppose you're ignoring the mass murder and conquest, so.

    Gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    i have lived in Ireland for 10 years

    and how many union jacks have you seen here in that time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Thread took 14 posts before being Godwinned
    Hank_Jones wrote: »
    I got called a paddy walking around London wearing a GAA jersey.

    Suprised any non-Irish person in London would have even heard of the GAA letalone be able to recognise a jersey.
    ThePower11 wrote: »
    Try wearing a Rangers jersey around Dublin and then see what happens!

    I believe there used to be(/still is ?) a Rangers fan club in Dublin.

    Not really my sort of thing but (if theyre still around) best of luck to them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    We like the English,it's them that don't like us. We greeted the queen and showed her a good time when she was here. She wants to come back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭Dannyg90


    deisedave wrote: »
    You shouldn't get abuse but you will by nobs so if you want to wear it then more power but there is always going to be nobs giving you abuse for it. It would happen if an Irish person did the same in England.

    my whole family is Irish living in Birmingham and London, they got abuse 40 years ago not today and they're shocked when i told them. totally unacceptable or not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    my whole family is Irish living in Birmingham and London, they got abuse 40 years ago not today and they're shocked when i told them. totally unacceptable or not?

    I honestly don't believe you got the abuse you said in Dublin, no one cares if you are English or not. You are just stirring ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭Dannyg90


    So being called a Paddy isn't 'really offensive abuse'? Interesting.



    Ah yes, "it's a free country": everyone's favorite excuse for attention-seeking obnoxious behavior.

    So if you wore a Real Madrid jersey to a Barca game, you're telling me you would be shocked to get abuse because it's a 'free country'?

    hardly the same, should i feel that im walking through enemy territory while walking through the city centre then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    I suppose you're ignoring the mass murder and conquest, so.
    ah yeah but there wasnt enough spuds to go around, they did us a favor. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    totally unacceptable or not?

    hmmm... totally acceptable?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭chucken1


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    my whole family is Irish living in Birmingham and London, they got abuse 40 years ago not today and they're shocked when i told them. totally unacceptable or not?

    Lets put it this way....I wouldnt wander in to D4 Dublin in a Munster jersey and not expect to have the peewee taken.(I wouldnt call it abuse btw..its asking for it ;))

    Tell us..out of curiosity..your age(ish) and the age of those abusing you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    drdeadlift wrote: »
    The gas thing is we spend all our gardai budget on protecting the queen on her visit now we need to shut down 14 cop shops...They said it was going to bring tourism!!

    I reckon the average boards.ie user is happy with how things went down :rolleyes:

    They loved the queen coming over and most people have a hard on for the public sector. So 'win win' for them :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭Dannyg90


    what i said happened for whoever said it didn't. if this happened against an ethnic group it'd be an issue but i can see from the replies that most people think i was inviting trouble for wearing my national colours. Next time your in england im sure you wont feel the trepidation i will now feel when next wearing my union jack


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 chanthomas


    I am "half" english I have lived in Ireland since I was 5 years old! Why should I feel bad for wearing my native country's symbol? When so many people wear Man U t-shirts..etc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    what i said happened for whoever said it didn't. if this happened against an ethnic group it'd be an issue but i can see from the replies that most people think i was inviting trouble for wearing my national colours. Next time your in england im sure you wont feel the trepidation i will now feel when next wearing my union jack

    Get over it no one cares. wear decent clothes in future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    drdeadlift wrote: »
    ...They said it was going to bring tourism!!

    The OP ?
    Dannyg90 wrote: »
    if this happened against an ethnic group it'd be an issue

    But it did !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    chucken1 wrote: »
    I wouldnt wander in to D4 Dublin in a Munster jersey and not expect to have the peewee taken.

    What would they call you, a cont :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    I've seen people around O'Connell Street get abused for being tall, short, fat, ginger, black, homeless, non-Dubliners, or ugly. What makes you so fcuking special?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 chanthomas




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