General Star Trek thread

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119807372#Comment_119807372

Ah ok. I don't really follow PRO so didn't realize it was back already

DoctorEdgeWild

Going back to do yet another watch through of VOY to tide me over until SNW next year. Flipped a coin between VOY and Babylon 5 and Janeway came out on top. Tried to persist with DIS or PIC but felt like a chore rather than enjoyable entertainment. Even tried the new Quantum Leap but that was also a bust. I shall stay living in the past until SNW returns!

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119827884#Comment_119827884

Awe no stick with QL it gets really good. Some great episodes in it.

I think if I was looking for something to tide me over untill SNW us back it would be between DS9 and TNG.

DoctorEdgeWild

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119831813#Comment_119831813

I've recently finished a DS9 and TNG run through so dipping back to VOY.

I think I lasted 3 episodes into QL, but found it such a poor comparison to the original. Is it worth persisting with?

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119831847#Comment_119831847

Yes it is worth persisting with. It had a good Halloween episode and the episode before it was very good too. No doubt it is different to the original but I think it has potential.

CastorTroy

Yeah once you accept it's not the original it's an enjoyable leap of the week series. As I said in the show thread, I was one of the doubters and I'll admit I was wrong.

DoctorEdgeWild

I shall give it another shot this week in that case. VOY can wait!

AMKC

I would love to see Naglim make an appearance in Lower Decks. He featured in episode two of season two. That was a decent episode that.

I wonder how many times was the Enterpris-D neatly destroyed before it eventually was how many times did they use self destruct to nearly destroy it too? Anyone know.

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119857530#Comment_119857530

A bit of reading for you.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Auto-destruct

AMKC

So whoever wrote this obviously does not Have a clue what they are on about but hay it's on Screen Rant so I am not surprised.

The Enterprise B lol on the Original series not unless it's from an alternate reality lol not in this reality he was not.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119857725#Comment_119857725

That sounds like it's written by a bot.

Evade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119857725#Comment_119857725

What sort of half baked fan-fic is that?

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119858264#Comment_119858264

A very bad one who obviosly hasn't a clue thats what. Unless whoever wrote it if it was a person came from an alternate reality or universe lol.

Stark

Heh

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119878279#Comment_119878279

And they said Elon Musk wouldn't start allowing fake news on Twitter 🤣

flazio

Heh heh (posted on Michael Houghs instagram story)

AMKC

So I am just watching DS9s 'The Visitor " episode. I know it probably did not happen as Jake fixed it and all but then maybe it did happen in an alternate reality.

So do you think in that alternate reality without Commander Sisko that the Federation and the Dominion still went to war and if so do you think the Dominion would have won in that one? Also maybe Jadzia does not die in that reality or maybe she dies sooner?Who knows.

Evade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119891190#Comment_119891190

The way that future played out it seems like there wasn't enough of the Alpha Quadrant-ish powers united to be a threat to the Dominion so they probably only had changeling infiltrators stirring the pot every so often

breezy1985

Without Sisco there is a good chance S31 still poison all the Founders.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119891498#Comment_119891498

Ye maybe. Jadzia and Bashir are still around but old and Nog too.

So ye maybe the Dominion never seen any of the other powers as a threat at least not yet so there had been no big war yet.

Evade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119891583#Comment_119891583

Broken Link comes a good bit after the Visitor so Odo might never have gone to the Founders home world to spread the virus. I don't remember off hand if Odo is even mentioned in the alternate future segments.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119891618#Comment_119891618

No ODO is not mentioned in "The Visitor" at all.

Greyjoy

I've started a rewatch of DS9 from the beginning in conjunction with the "Greatest Gen" podcast working through DS9. I've just finished S1 and even though it naturally had a wobbly first season I was struck by the quality of the episode "Duet". For a simple two hander story it feels like an episode coming much later in the show's run. The performances from both Visitor and Yulin were great - I especially liked how Yulin switched back and forth between the personas of Marritza and Darheel. I don't think any other Trek series has such a good episode in their first season.

On a side note when the "Greatest Gen" podcast begins watching DS9 they make lots of references to their new podcast "Friendly Fire" which is about to start. It's hard to hear the optimism in their voices given how that show fell apart at the end.

eadrom

Feckin love that Greatest Gen pod though. Was lucky enough to catch it from pretty much the start, TNG Season 3 I think by the time I caught up to real-time, and now I'm actually doing a re-listen of TNG (on S05E09) along with the weekly Voyager episode and Prodigy at the moment on Greatest Trek.

It's good, fun, easy listening. And Trek.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119944121#Comment_119944121

I don't think any other Trek series has such a good episode in their first season.

I guess you have not watched"Strange New Worlds" then.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119947066#Comment_119947066

None of the SNW episodes come anywhere close to "Duet". I'm always shocked when I see that it's a S1 episode. It feels like the peak seasons DS9 stuff.

Greyjoy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119947378#Comment_119947378

SNW has probably got the strongest first season overall of any Trek series. But on a one-for-one basis "Duet" is a better single episode. It really does feel like an episode you'd get 3 or 4 seasons into the show. A lot of the quality is simply the emotional performances from Visitor and Yulin.

pixelburp

I was wondering if Duet was the one with the Cardassian war criminal cos yeh, hot damn that was a stellar, Best Of Episode quite soon in an otherwise patchy first season.

Strange New Worlds has been an incredibly strong season of adventure stories, but just in terms of a quality script, idea and execution Duet is up there with the best of TV, let alone Trek. You could easily fashion a version of it without the Sci-Fi aspect entirely.

corkie

17:00 Legend channel is showing TOS from the start again, starting with

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Man_Trap_%28episode%29

Greyjoy

Making my way through S2 of DS9 and just finished "Invasive Procedures" where the Dax symbiont is taken from Jadzia into Verad. It was fun seeing Tim Russ pop up as a klingon mercenary and John Glover gives a good "before & after" performance as the host Verad. I have to say the Dax symbiont itself does not come out of the episode in a good light. It seemed to show only passing regard for the fact that its previous host Jadzia was going to die. Now, that's partially down to the personality of the new host Verad but it does make Dax seem a bit heartless.