Settle a debate - did he or didn't he snub Cameron?

UglyBolloxFace

Many people think this video shows Sarkozy snubbing Cameron. But to me it looks like they had already greeted earlier in the video so had no need to do it again...or am I naive?

http://www.businessinsider.com/sarkozy-handshake-cameron-2011-12

Seachmall

Cameron had one of those awkward moments where you're not sure if you should greet them or not because you're not sure if they're going to greet you or not.

He handled it well.

Top marks.

He looked like he was going somewhere anyway, but that could be a front for a sad little boy who just wants to be loved.

later12

In keeping with Franco-British relations, there's no love lost there, that's well known.

But as for snubs, it's a pretty pathetic snub if it is one.

Dotrel

Whatever happened there seemed amicable enough

Now if you want to see a guy getting snubbed ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhYb6ZM-vds

lock_stock

Sarkozy: (underbreath) "Merde..."

Cameron: "Wanker"... walks on

ejmaztec

Sarkozy only recognises people by their belts.

Guill

No, If Cameron wanted to shake hands he would have slowed down to do so.

KeithAFC

He must still remember Waterloo. No dignity at all.

UglyBolloxFace

Dotrel wrote: »

Whatever happened there seemed amicable enough

Now if you want to see a guy getting snubbed ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhYb6ZM-vds

Holy christ that's embarrassing.

AnamGlas

ejmaztec wrote: »

Sarkozy only recognises people by their belts.

He could do with one around his neck...

ejmaztec

KeithAFC wrote: »

He must still remember Waterloo. No dignity at all.

After all those years of being around, I'm surprised that he's only dead from the neck up.

Scruffles

hell,its david cameron! who woudnt snub him? there was probably a cue forming in the background just to walk past and blank him;like a cat turning their nose up at cheap crappy food.

later12

Scruffles wrote: »

hell,its david cameron! who woudnt snub him?

I think he's a swell guy.

I'd give him a hug.

whydoibother?

I don't know the answer to this one, but I find the wildly different ways todays events have been reported really funny - the Irish Times and the Guardian going with the idea that the UK is isolated (bad day for UK), sky and others on how Cameron welcomed home a hero (huge success for UK).

tonycascarino

Fair play to Cameron

bodhrandude

Faye Dunaway.

De Hipster

He's French - he snubs EVERYONE!





...Merkel finds snubbing especially arousing.

WoollyRedHat

Cameron is billy no mates and Sarkozy is just a little jumped up ****er

If I was Cameron, I'd just get the next private jet home

ThePower11

Sarkozy is some arrogant little prick, that video just confirms it.

later12

whydoibother? wrote: »

I don't know the answer to this one, but I find the wildly different ways todays events have been reported really funny - the Irish Times and the Guardian going with the idea that the UK is isolated (bad day for UK), sky and others on how Cameron welcomed home a hero (huge success for UK).

I think both are true. Cameron keeping the UK out of the new fiscal arrangement for the EU17+(?) is a major sop to the 100 or so Tory backbenchers who wanted it confirmation of their independence from Europe. He also did very well to save The City from The Tobin Tax, and he was perfectly correct to do so.

But in the long term he has possibly isolated the UK from the rest of the European Union in the long term by failing to bring the other non Eurozone members with him.

He also lost his bluff against Merkozy's insistence that they could just go ahead and push for fiscal reform without the EU27, thereby creating a two tier Europe, which is the current reality.

The Tories probably don't appreciate what a bad day this is for the UK and the old EU as it was up until last night. I think the realization will sink in over the coming months, and they may regret some of their more vociferous calls of Euroscepticism.

Ficheall

Well, that was boring.
No snub there.

whydoibother?

later10 wrote: »

I think both are true. Cameron keeping the UK out of the new fiscal arrangement for the EU17+(?) is a major sop to the 100 or so Tory backbenchers who wanted it confirmation of their independence from Europe. He also did very well to save The City from The Tobin Tax, and he was perfectly correct to do so.

But in the long term he has possibly isolated the UK from the rest of the European Union in the long term by failing to bring the other non Eurozone members with him.

He also lost his bluff against Merkozy's insistence that they could just go ahead and push for fiscal reform without the EU27, thereby creating a two tier Europe, which is the current reality.

The Tories probably don't appreciate what a bad day this is for the UK and the old EU as it was up until last night. I think the realization will sink in over the coming months, and they may regret some of their more vociferous calls of Euroscepticism.

Yes, I can see how saving the City would be a massive priority for him. I also think todays performance might have been tactical to look like he was standing up to Europe to keep those domestic cries for a potentially disastrous referendum on EU membership at bay. If it looks like he's doing something for the eurosceptics, they might relax a bit? Not sure.

I think it will take everyone, UK included, a while to figure out the full consequences of todays events.

Agricola

Well since Cameron clearly didnt attempt to shake his hand, I can't see where a snub occured.

Wertz

No snub there in that one shot that I could make out, but he looked like he was getting a fair old bollocking off Baroso.

lol @ Kenny, tagging along behind Cameron with his hands in his pockets and then all smiles standing beside Prodi and the Greek guy... fitting almost.

Cameron made a good point about 17 or 26 countries using the institutions of the EU without the UK....interesting times ahead for Britain. Rock and a hard place choice for the brits there...

kraggy

Either that video file is corrupt or my amstrad cpc 464 is ****ed.

MagicMarker

I don't see a snub either, everything looked rosy to me.

44leto

I don't think so, tele pictures can take things out of context, like did they officially meet already outside the conference, I do hope it was a snub.

We haven't had an Anglo/French war in centuries and little Sark-dosy does remind me of Napoleon.

Anita Blow

Dotrel wrote: »

Whatever happened there seemed amicable enough

Now if you want to see a guy getting snubbed ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhYb6ZM-vds

It is cringingly embarrassing that this is the person who represented our country

Nodin

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

Holy christ that's embarrassing.

In fairness, there was thoughts at the time it was contaigous.

Ellis Dee

If the Daily Hatemail said it was a snub, then it must have been ...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2072061/EU-treaty-change-Nicolas-Sarkozy-snubs-David-Cameron-swife-body-swerve.html

Jumped up little frog snubs jumped up little Tory toad.;);)

blaze1

No snub at all.

Cameron is pulling the oldest trick in the book, walking fast looking important carrying a piece of paper..
Could of only been better if he'd stuck a "kick me" sign on froggys back..

Richard Hillman

Sarkozy and Pat Butcher seem to be close.







PS It looked like DC and NS already greeted each other.

Tayla

I always hate seeing them all happy and smiling before and afterwards, Merkel and Sarkozy in particular....and my God what do the rest of them have to be smiling about?

These are peoples lives they're messing with, I want to see them all beating the **** out of each other and screaming at each other trying to get the best outcome possible for their countries.


Perhaps if this was the type of thing that went on over there we wouldn't have voted in that little wimp Enda Kenny, maybe he'd have a shot against Van Rumpoy but even that's debatable!

later12

Tayla wrote: »

I always hate seeing them all happy and smiling before and afterwards, Merkel and Sarkozy in particular....and my God what do the rest of them have to be smiling about?

These are peoples lives they're messing with, I want to see them all beating the **** out of each other and screaming at each other trying to get the best outcome possible for their countries.

I think that's a very good point.

I think a reasonable amount of argy bargy does go on, but that should be something we get to find out about. The public deserve to know whether or not, or how,their leaders are 'fighting their corner' at the table of 27, or whether they even manage to speak.

Killer Pigeon

Looks like there's some tension between the Prime Minister of Great Britain and the President of France...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt_8vGgD1Nk

Chuck Stone

The little-Englander nightmare is slowly coming true.

Chuck Stone

later10 wrote: »

The public deserve to know whether or not, or how,their leaders are 'fighting their corner' at the table of 27, or whether they even manage to speak.

Transparency? In a modern democratic country?

These are unreasonable demands Sir.

googsy

I think Cameron handled it pretty well... never taught I would ever say this about any Tory party leader but well done Mr Cameron.

InReality

Dotrel wrote: »

Whatever happened there seemed amicable enough

Now if you want to see a guy getting snubbed ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhYb6ZM-vds

love it.

InReality

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

Many people think this video shows Sarkozy snubbing Cameron. But to me it looks like they had already greeted earlier in the video so had no need to do it again...or am I naive?

http://www.businessinsider.com/sarkozy-handshake-cameron-2011-12

wtf is that woman wearing ?

a red cape ?

woodoo

Defo a snub by le twerpe.

R.D. aka MR.D

Dotrel wrote: »

Whatever happened there seemed amicable enough

Now if you want to see a guy getting snubbed ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhYb6ZM-vds

Any chance anyone could explain to me what happens in this video. I couldn't handle watching it if it's going to be unbelievably embarrassing.

I know that's weird but i can't watch embarrassing things, like i have to change the channel on those reality shows and all!

SeaFields

for a little cnut he's really throwing his weight around lately.

pavb2

From Burgo in YLYL thought it was apt

Dionysus

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

Many people think this video shows Sarkozy snubbing Cameron. But to me it looks like they had already greeted earlier in the video so had no need to do it again...or am I naive?

http://www.businessinsider.com/sarkozy-handshake-cameron-2011-12

Yes, definitely a snub. I think the British tabloids should now declare war on France.

When it comes to rabidly nationalistic rhetoric designed to inspire the plebs, rarely have two nations been so well matched.

ejmaztec

Dionysus wrote: »

Yes, definitely a snub. I think the British tabloids should now declare war on France.

When it comes to rabidly nationalistic rhetoric designed to inspire the plebs, rarely have two nations been so well matched.

The Daily Mail will be giving away free longbows next week.

Dionysus

KeithAFC wrote: »

He must still remember Waterloo. No dignity at all.

Waterloo indeed. More like British europhobes remember, bitterly, that their EFTA failed utterly and the Franco-German created EEC/EU succeeded and knocked them and their little economic free trade egotrip out of the water so much so that Britain was forced to swallow its pride in 1973 and join the EEC/EU.

The resentment among British nationalists of the French and Germans because of the success of the EU is nothing if not consistently pitiful. There's some serious growing up to be done by these embarrassingly bitter people.

Dionysus

ThePower11 wrote: »

Sarkozy is some arrogant little prick, that video just confirms it.

You must have been watching a different video to the rest of us.

LordSutch

Top marks to Cameron for sticking ridgedly to his guns. Merkel & Sarkozi would love to get their hands on 'The City', but thankfully Cameron has kept the City & the UK treasury out of their scheming little Euro hands. I don't think it was a snub by Sarkozi, I guess he & Cameron have met & talked to each other many times over the last 48 hours, and that 'this time' they passed with a pat & a nod.

Well done Cameron, he kept to his word & his principles 100%.

gigino

The British were proved right in staying out of the euro. The EEC and laterly EC has cost them enough already, as they have been the 2nd biggest contributers to EC funds, after Germany.

prinz

LordSutch wrote: »

Merkel & Sarkozi would love to get their hands on 'The City'.....

The paratroopers are boarding transports as you type... :rolleyes: