How do they do it ?

msg11

How do nightclubs running a once off charge at the door make money, there is a place in town on a Monday that charges 20euro in and you can drink for free for the rest of the night. I know of another place that charges 50euro in, but for 20euro do they make any money at all ?

Anyone know the answer or feel free to ask your own how do they do it?

Before the fig roll one comes up ill answer it,

They get the fig in the figroll, by using two circular pipes one smaller pipe containing the fig is placed inside another pipe containing the biscuit.

Bluefox21

msg11 wrote: »

How do nightclubs running a once off charge at the door make money, there is a place in town on a Monday that charges 20euro in and you can drink for free for the rest of the night. I know of another place that charges 50euro in, but for 20euro do they make any money at all ?

Anyone know the answer or feel free to ask your own how do they do it?

Before the fig roll one comes up ill answer it,

They get the fig in the figroll, by using two circular pipes one smaller pipe containing the fig is placed inside another pipe containing the biscuit.

What's the place for twenty euro called? Is this in Dublin? How did I not n=know it exists

chakotha

msg11 wrote: »

How do nightclubs running a once off charge at the door make money, there is a place in town on a Monday that charges 20euro in and you can drink for free for the rest of the night. I know of another place that charges 50euro in, but for 20euro do they make any money at all ?

Anyone know the answer or feel free to ask your own how do they do it?

Before the fig roll one comes up ill answer it,

They get the fig in the figroll, by using two circular pipes one smaller pipe containing the fig is placed inside another pipe containing the biscuit.

Spoiler alert!

CrazyRabbit

After you drink all the free beer and get plastered, they steal your wallet/purse, and copy your credit cards/ATM cards. Then they put them back. Months later, they use them to otain thousands in cash/goods, leaving you none-the-wiser as to how it happened.

You've heard about massive indentity theft and credit card fraud...well now you know how it happens.

Well, that's my theory anyway.

ThePower11

msg11 wrote: »

Before the fig roll one comes up ill answer it,

They get the fig in the figroll, by using two circular pipes one smaller pipe containing the fig is placed inside another pipe containing the biscuit.

This changes everything

FatherLen

they water down the drink and piss down the water

msg11

Bluefox21 wrote: »

What's the place for twenty euro called? Is this in Dublin? How did I not n=know it exists

Yeah it's in Dublin, 21s in town. (It's a 50/50 spot , should be safe on a Monday)

chakotha wrote: »

Spoiler alert!

****!! Sorry about that, I think I have ruined a few peoples dreams of a magical 'fig bunny' placing his fig in the roll. That sounds wrong !!

MyKeyG

msg11 wrote: »

How do nightclubs running a once off charge at the door make money, there is a place in town on a Monday that charges 20euro in and you can drink for free for the rest of the night. I know of another place that charges 50euro in, but for 20euro do they make any money at all ?

Anyone know the answer or feel free to ask your own how do they do it?

Before the fig roll one comes up ill answer it,

They get the fig in the figroll, by using two circular pipes one smaller pipe containing the fig is placed inside another pipe containing the biscuit.

I know about clubs that have cheap booze, even some that let you bring your own but never free. I can't imagine how they make a profit.

Yahew

msg11 wrote: »

How do nightclubs running a once off charge at the door make money, there is a place in town on a Monday that charges 20euro in and you can drink for free for the rest of the night. I know of another place that charges 50euro in, but for 20euro do they make any money at all ?

Anyone know the answer or feel free to ask your own how do they do it?

Before the fig roll one comes up ill answer it,

They get the fig in the figroll, by using two circular pipes one smaller pipe containing the fig is placed inside another pipe containing the biscuit.

My guess is people don't normally spend €20 on a night out on Monday i.e. 4 to 5 pints, so it attracts a lot of custom who either want to, or attempt to. They are not spending anywhere else. If the average punter is less than 5 pints, quids in. And even if the average punter downs 6 pints, quids in on increased revenue even with reduced profit per pint. They have a lot of margin to play with.

Beyond that they can start

jester77

I'd hazard a guess that your hangover the following morning would not be alcohol related

msg11

MyKeyG wrote: »

I know about clubs that have cheap booze, even some that let you bring your own but never free. I can't imagine how they make a profit.

Same here, I tried Googling it but couldn't get anything on it. The thing is, it's every single drink in the place no exceptions or so I am told. Maybe they just hope you get plaster very quick so you don't drink anymore. Like the all you can eat places, you usually just stay until your full.

Or is it something to do with making the place seem ****, so you pay 20 in and the music is dire so you just leave or something?

FatherLen wrote: »

they water down the drink and piss down the water

I dunno can they water down unopened bottles? I can't see the point in watering down stuff, people won't get hammered and will actually end up drinking more which would cost more in gas too get it pumped up too the bar.

Immaculate Pasta

I've known three places in England which do a similar thing and all three have them have closed down within two years of opening. So yes you're right, invariably they don't make money.

headmaster

Pubs can buy their own booze specially for this sort of offering, bottles sealed and all that. Spirits, beers, water, lager, cider, you name it, they get it. Simples.

Seachmall

I'd say on average people drink a lot less than you think in clubs anyway, particularly when you factor in pre-drinking.

Red_Wake

Revenue not tied to bar staff.

=> Employ less bar staff

=> Serve less beer

=> Less costs

=> More profit

It would take a long time for people to realise they're not getting their money's worth.

fullstop

msg11 wrote: »

Before the fig roll one comes up ill answer it,

They get the fig in the figroll, by using two circular pipes one smaller pipe containing the fig is placed inside another pipe containing the biscuit.

That's a very basic way of explaining co-extrusion

hardCopy

msg11 wrote: »

Same here, I tried Googling it but couldn't get anything on it. The thing is, it's every single drink in the place no exceptions or so I am told. Maybe they just hope you get plaster very quick so you don't drink anymore. Like the all you can eat places, you usually just stay until your full.

Or is it something to do with making the place seem ****, so you pay 20 in and the music is dire so you just leave or something?



I dunno can they water down unopened bottles? I can't see the point in watering down stuff, people won't get hammered and will actually end up drinking more which would cost more in gas too get it pumped up too the bar.

Does this actually happen though, or is it an urban myth?

When I was in college there were always rumours about this kind of thing. 24 hour clubs with "special" licences were a popular one too. Strangely enough I never met anyone who was actually there on the right night to avail of these offers.

Side issue: With all the random crap they've shown on How Do They Do It?, how have they not shown the Fig Rolls?

msg11

hardCopy wrote: »

Side issue: With all the random crap they've shown on How Do They Do It?, how have they not shown the Fig Rolls?

Pretty sure they did cover it..

Where To

People don't drink as much as they think they do in nightclubs.

MyKeyG

I suppose it just goes to show the markup they were making on alcohol when we all had endless disposable income and would have been willing to pay €7 for a pint of piss so long as it was served over the counter of some trendy bar.

Dustaz

I've been to a few nights like this and the key is that theres only ever 1 barman behind the bar and hes not under any pressure to sling the drink out. Ally that to the fact that, as had been pointed out, people really dont drink as much as they think they do in clubs and doing this one night a week, on a night where the place would be a ghost town under normal circumstances makes sense.

AgileMyth

MyKeyG wrote: »

I suppose it just goes to show the markup they were making on alcohol when we all had endless disposable income and would have been willing to pay €7 for a pint of piss so long as it was served over the counter of some trendy bar.

Speak for yourself there!

Loanshark Blues

Maybe there's something in the fact that they're technically not selling the alcohol, so they pay off license-rate tax rather than the higher rate that pubs have to pay.

MyKeyG

AgileMyth wrote: »

Speak for yourself there!

I'm sure I'm not speaking only for myself in fact I would imagine you're in the minority. It didn't have to be a trendy bar, pubs were charging massive prices for drinks right across the board.

My cheapest local in Rathmines three years ago was €4.80 for a pint of lager, €5.40 for a pint of cider and now there are places that can give it away for as little as €3 a pint and even free according to the OP. That's the point I was trying to make. During the boom years pubs were charging well above cost price and people for the most part were paying it.

MyKeyG

Loanshark Blues wrote: »

Maybe there's something in the fact that they're technically not selling the alcohol, so they pay off license-rate tax rather than the higher rate that pubs have to pay.

Yes but I think they do sell it on other nights so they would have to pay the same rate as every other pub.

msg11

msg11 wrote: »

How do nightclubs running a once off charge at the door make money, there is a place in town on a Monday that charges 20euro in and you can drink for free for the rest of the night. I know of another place that charges 50euro in, but for 20euro do they make any money at all ?

Most of those places usually only have few bar staff working so there's always huge queues for the bar - so you won't actually get a load of free drink... Just maybe one or two..

earpiece

Well, I buy 24 cans of 500ml beer in the supermarket for €24, and I can't help but feel that the supermarket might be making some money on my purchase..... so with this in mind - what does a pint cost the night club owner, maybe a euro, and add overheads, so maybe the average punter consumes 5 pints, that's €15 to keep the place going. Might work?
Anyone got insight to actual pub costs?

Rabies

Supermarkets generally sell beer at cost or slightly below cost. They make their money on other items.


A bottle of beer costs me anything from $1.90-$2.50 (not incl tax).
I sell it for $4, $5 and $8.
Price is according to the day and time.

The average person in a club drinks 2-3 drinks max. Its the small few that drink a lot more and bump the numbers up.

Door charge is needed at times because of poor drink sales in clubs. The music slows down drinking.
Bars usually don't charge entry, better music and people drink.

LighterGuy

where is this 20 euro place?!

i must know :pac:

St.Spodo

I've never heard of a €20 euro place, but if it brings in a significantly higher amount of people on a quiet night, I could see how it would probably be a successful promotion. A busy place on a Saturday couldn't do that; they'd be broke.

maxfresh

Just guessing but this 20 euro all you can drink place ,i'd say it has a poor selection of drinks to choose from

slavetothegrind

probably just carling, so you'd never know you had a bad one, they can't disimprove.:)

TheRealSquishy

GPO in Galway were meant to be starting that last year and supposedly (so I heard, could have been a rumour) the guards had words with them about encouraging binge drinking in students and irresponsible behaviour etc.

Anywho it never got going and the place closed down like 2 weeks after.

I guess the business it attracts outweighs paying for an empty club to stay open.

MyKeyG

maxfresh wrote: »

Just guessing but this 20 euro all you can drink place ,i'd say it has a poor selection of drinks to choose from

Yeah I remember a bar in Limerick that had a sign saying 'Any pint €3'. The only problem was they were always mysteriously out of everything but Fosters.

Richard Hillman

Technically they are not selling alcohol, they are just charging into their premises and giving out free booze. I think there is a seperate midweek licence clubs need. They don't need a midweek licence because they aint selling alcohol.

yeahimhere

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

I've known three places in England which do a similar thing and all three have them have closed down within two years of opening. So yes you're right, invariably they don't make money.

some places do this as a last effort when trying to sell the bar.it inflates the turnover and makes it look a lot more successful than it is.prob didn't find a buyer so just shut up shop.

msg11

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Technically they are not selling alcohol, they are just charging into their premises and giving out free booze. I think there is a seperate midweek licence clubs need. They don't need a midweek licence because they aint selling alcohol.

So if I rent out a warehouse 'charge' people in, and let them bring there own beer would I be in the $$$

Rocket19

msg11 wrote: »

Yeah it's in Dublin, 21s in town. (It's a 50/50 spot , should be safe on a Monday)

Baha.
21s...that explains a lot. I'm 20 and I've been too old for that place for about 2 years now. Its a **** hole and full of 16 year olds. Well that's my opinion : )
There's always deals (free drink, etc) there because people wouldn't go otherwise. It's just to get people in the door.