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What would you do with Peyton Manning?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Delighted for Denver, really took a shine to them last year and always watched their games whenever Baltimore weren't on at the same time.

    Can't wait to see Manning play for them, although I'm disappointed for Tebow.

    Well done Denver fans!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭TimThomas


    How funny would it be if Manning absolutely choked in Denver or took a large hit and was done. After all this madness and bang gone. :D

    Have to say Denver fans have entertained me greatly over the last few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    This took its toll...but it's been so worth it. Thank you John Elway, you ****ing sainted man. Words cannot describe how much respect i have for you and the great things you've done for this team over the years, and I'm so sorry to have been deluded enough to doubt you had another drive in you, even if it was as an executive. Taken us from a running joke to the Superbowl running in two years -****ing LEGEND.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    Objectively it's the worst choice he could make, but there you go.

    Tebow to Miami? I'd find it deliciously ironic if Tebow ended up in San Fran and winning a Bowl, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭cassel16


    I think its a good fit for Manning, should do well. What now for Tebow?

    I would have up with the Patriots!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    I'm just happy we have Manning vs Brady at least one more time. Broncos visit the Pats this year.

    We're not going to get our ass kicked by 35 points and watch Brady punting on 3rd down this time round at least!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    Syferus wrote: »
    Objectively it's the worst choice he could make, but there you go.

    Tebow to Miami?

    Nailed on i think, they've really narrowed their options there and it's fitting because of his status in Florida. I'd be delighted for him personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭themont85


    Syferus wrote: »
    Objectively it's the worst choice he could make, but there you go.

    Tebow to Miami?

    I disagree.

    Good, solid team who will make a run. Great organisation.

    The Titans and 49ers both had significant black marks against them. The Titans in the same division as the Colts. The 49ers in the NFC with Eli.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,228 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    TimThomas wrote: »
    How funny would it be if Manning absolutely choked in Denver or took a large hit and was done. After all this madness and bang gone. :D

    Have to say Denver fans have entertained me greatly over the last few years.

    I have a feeling Manning will have a contract that accounts for that risk!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭JaMarcus Hustle


    I have a feeling Manning will have a contract that accounts for that risk!

    I have a feeling TimThomas would find it funny for the situation the Broncos would be left in, not Manning's well-being. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Damn it he's staying in the AFC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭cassel16


    themont85 wrote: »
    I disagree.

    Good, solid team who will make a run. Great organisation.

    The Titans and 49ers both had significant black marks against them. The Titans in the same division as the Colts. The 49ers in the NFC with Eli.

    +1

    Good back field, adaptable line, promising wideouts, fairly handy division and won't meet NFC East this season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Next year the AFC West could be really good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    themont85 wrote: »
    I disagree.

    Good, solid team who will make a run. Great organisation.

    The Titans and 49ers both had significant black marks against them. The Titans in the same division as the Colts. The 49ers in the NFC with Eli.

    Come on it's a awful choice at this stage, had this been done at the start of FA then the Bronco's could of went off and starting gathering the pieces but look at them now, they'v lost both Royal and Fells which leaves Thomas and Decker. They'v lost out on the chance to sign marque receiving threats too, there is not one high profile WR left to sign. Not only that but the Chiefs signings seem to put them for early favourites in that division.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    themont85 wrote: »
    I disagree.

    Good, solid team who will make a run. Great organisation.

    The Titans and 49ers both had significant black marks against them. The Titans in the same division as the Colts. The 49ers in the NFC with Eli.

    I never really thought the Niners were serious in their interest tbh, it looked a bit like a ploy, no visit was made and the figures and personalities didn't add up. Tenn were always the real threat imo because of the off field perks they offered.

    We've been largely one of the best ran organisations in the NFL since the mid 70s, barring a few years at the end of the last decade when we gave shanahan too much power. Has to count for something. Seeing the likes of young, eager, talented players in Decker, Thomas and Miller as well as established veterans desperate for a ring like Dawkins and Bailey really could have made the difference imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    spiralism wrote: »
    I never really thought the Niners were serious in their interest tbh, it looked a bit like a ploy, no visit was made and the figures and personalities didn't add up. Tenn were always the real threat imo because of the off field perks they offered.

    We've been largely one of the best ran organisations in the NFL since the mid 70s, barring a few years at the end of the last decade when we gave shanahan too much power. Has to count for something. Seeing the likes of young, eager, talented players in Decker, Thomas and Miller as well as established veterans desperate for a ring like Dawkins and Bailey really could have made the difference imo.

    SF and Alex Smith are just in a jealously fight at the moment, they know they love each other but they want to make the other jealous by hanging out with someone else and getting a reaction :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    themont85 wrote: »
    I disagree.

    Good, solid team who will make a run. Great organisation.

    The Titans and 49ers both had significant black marks against them. The Titans in the same division as the Colts. The 49ers in the NFC with Eli.

    I don't think either are big issues.

    Manning mightn't be happiest playing the Colts but I highly doubt it entered his decision making. If it did then that would be completely ridiculous, this is a team that dumped him and almost his entire team only two weeks ago.

    The 49ers presented a huge opportunity for multiple rings, familial bonds and all that, but the prospect of the Giants maybe meeting a Manning manned (ho ho) NFC team in the post-season has been played up way too far.

    Both the 49ers and the Titans could make runs without much work to the roster; it's hard to say the same about the Broncos.


  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Antonio Young Thermos


    id love to see him win dawk a ring


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    Stev_o wrote: »
    Come on it's a awful choice at this stage, had this been done at the start of FA then the Bronco's could of went off and starting gathering the pieces but look at them now, they'v lost both Royal and Fells which leaves Thomas and Decker. They'v lost out on the chance to sign marque receiving threats too, there is not one high profile WR left to sign. Not only that but the Chiefs signings seem to put them for early favourites in that division.

    Royal isnt that good unless he's a returner. If we were to get in Ted Ginn, we'd lose nothing in productivity next to him. That's not homerism either, check his receiver numbers since his rookie year, he's barely matched his year one output in the three since... Trade our first for Wallace anyways if we're stuck. Fells was largely peripheral at Denver and we've three other TEs on the roster. Besides, Dallas Clark is now a possibility there anyways. Marquee receiving threats are often overrated, Manning has made the likes of Blair White and Jacob Tamme look amazing.

    Chiefs have a very solid team but the glaring hole at QB really hurts them there and i'm not sold on Crennel as a coach. SD are who i worry about because of Manning's record against them. Even then - Norv. Raiders you wouldn't know...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    spiralism wrote: »
    Royal isnt that good unless he's a returner. If we were to get in Ted Ginn, we'd lose nothing in productivity next to him. Trade our first for Wallace if we're stuck. Fells was largely peripheral at Denver and we've three other TEs on the roster. Besides, Dallas Clark is now a possibility there anyways. Marquee receiving threats are often overrated, Manning has made the likes of Blair White and Jacob Tamme look amazing.

    Chiefs have a very solid team but the glaring hole at QB really hurts them there and i'm not sold on Crennel as a coach. SD are who i worry about because of Manning's record against them. Even then - Norv. Raiders you wouldn't know...

    Cassel is plenty good enough to QB a run-first offense like the Chiefs. He's not a bad QB and in the stretch before getting injured last season he was looking better than ever. Don't be surprised if he has a very good season.


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  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Antonio Young Thermos


    manning makes receivers there going to have 1 or 2 breakout receivers no matter who's playing out wide it's not a coincidence that the colts always seemed to have so many


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    spiralism wrote: »
    Royal isnt that good unless he's a returner. If we were to get in Ted Ginn, we'd lose nothing in productivity next to him. That's not homerism either, check his receiver numbers since his rookie year, he's barely matched his year one output in the three since... Trade our first for Wallace anyways if we're stuck. Fells was largely peripheral at Denver and we've three other TEs on the roster. Besides, Dallas Clark is now a possibility there anyways. Marquee receiving threats are often overrated, Manning has made the likes of Blair White and Jacob Tamme look amazing.

    Chiefs have a very solid team but the glaring hole at QB really hurts them there and i'm not sold on Crennel as a coach. SD are who i worry about because of Manning's record against them. Even then - Norv. Raiders you wouldn't know...

    I just don't see it happening. Your offence is going from two polar opposites. From a simple option offence with simple routes going to a hurry up offence with multiple audible. Add in the fact that your WR corp spent the year barely catching balls and the fact that your run game is more then likely going to be middle of the pack now that your running QB is gone (you even said that yourself).

    If this is a true it's a bad choice, just don't see it being the difference making for the Broncos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    Syferus wrote: »
    Cassel is plenty good enough to QB a run-first offense like the Chiefs. He's not a bad QB and in the stretch before getting injured last season he was looking better than ever. Don't be surprised if he has a very good season.

    Oh he isnt bad at all but he's still the worst QB in the division now, two elite QBs, one good qb in palmer and one decent one. AFC West should be exciting next year anyways and a good standard too, three teams battling it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    Stev_o wrote: »
    I just don't see it happening. Your offence is going from two polar opposites. From a simple option offence with simple routes going to a hurry up offence with multiple audible. Add in the fact that your WR corp spent the year barely catching balls and the fact that your run game is more then likely going to be middle of the pack now that your running QB is gone (you even said that yourself).

    If this is a true it's a bad choice, just don't see it being the difference making for the Broncos.

    Thomas and Decker are smart young players and Manning is supposedly a big fan of both, he apparently wanted Decker when we got him. Two smart, hardworking players. We retooled an entire offence for Tebow midseason, we could well put together a quality passing offence with #18 with months of work. Never mind that though, imagine Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil playing with the lead instead of trying to keep the score down for Tebow to pull the late win out? More pass rushing scenarios and they'd raise hell altogether.

    Yeah that's true on the run game. But it's not going to rank last either, i'd be happy with a run game at the level San Diego have with Rivers and i'd have confidence with Fox's track record in the run game that we'll stick to that level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    spiralism wrote: »
    Oh he isnt bad at all but he's still the worst QB in the division now, two elite QBs, one good qb in palmer and one decent one. AFC West should be exciting next year anyways and a good standard too, three teams battling it out.

    Speaking of which, I guess the Raiders can be safe in the knowledge they won't be giving up a second first rounder for Palmer. :pac:


  • Posts: 10,091 ✭✭✭✭ Antonio Young Thermos


    best thing tebow could do is stay and learn from manning for a year nothing teaches you how to work and how to play like watching a hof player day in day out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    Syferus wrote: »
    Speaking of which, I guess the Raiders can be safe in the knowledge they won't be giving up a second first rounder for Palmer. :pac:

    Imo when they hired Allen any fear of that happening went out the window, he didn't show that much with us as a defensive coach tbh, i'd be surprised if he was HC material. Definitely not as good as Hue Jackson anyways.

    Good chance the raiders reprise their old role in the afc west in the last decade - whipping boys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    spiralism wrote: »
    Thomas and Decker are smart young players and Manning is supposedly a big fan of both, he apparently wanted Decker when we got him. Two smart, hardworking players. We retooled an entire offence for Tebow midseason, we could well put together a quality passing offence with #18 with months of work. Never mind that though, imagine Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil playing with the lead instead of trying to keep the score down for Tebow to pull the late win out? More pass rushing scenarios and they'd raise hell altogether.

    Yeah that's true on the run game. But it's not going to rank last either, i'd be happy with a run game at the level San Diego have with Rivers and i'd have confidence with Fox's track record in the run game that we'll stick to that level.

    Both of them are good players but no one knows whether they are that sort of calibre players especially after coming off the season they had where there level of play was very simple.

    Also come on retooling the offence to Manning's way is on a different level, this is going to require a **** ton of work.

    The defence is going to have the same job as last year, keep the score down.

    We'll wait and see. How does this impact your draft then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    best thing tebow could do is stay and learn from manning for a year nothing teaches you how to work and how to play like watching a hof player day in day out

    Broncos are already actively trying to trade him, he hasn't that option. No starter who helps drag a team into the play-offs, and beats one of the best teams in the league while there, deserves to be benched.

    He needed to go even if the Broncos didn't want to move him and at least now he can go to an organisation that want him and are actually behind him, rather than publically behind him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    best thing tebow could do is stay and learn from manning for a year nothing teaches you how to work and how to play like watching a hof player day in day out

    Id say the Broncos would want him out, while a great character he's going to be a major distraction for the organisation especially when they Broncos loose their first match. Honestly I don't think he'd learn anything off Manning, I don't see Curtis Painter currently running for MVP anytime soon.

    Regardless Tebow needs to play, sitting on the bench won't do much for him long term.


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