I don't understand football

Reamer Fanny

I don't know what a tracker mortgage is

Brain Stroking

sensibleken wrote: »

basically its a load of millionaire perfume salesmen running around a pitch before falling over and crying. then they all have a bath together.

Reference your quotes please. Those that thanked you think it came from your tiny brain

starbelgrade

Brain Stroking wrote: »

Reference your quotes please. Those that thanked you think it came from your tiny brain

Bitchy or what?

Brain Stroking

Dionysus wrote: »

Yeah, because "real men" love engaging in the bad ballet which is soccer, and getting naked in all-male dressing rooms before have big emotional talks together. Bring it on, you complete fairies.

Soccer is shíte, and as a rule the more commercialised it is, the more shíte it is. All of which makes British soccer the greatest load of shíte in the history of shíte. And all its slavish followers shítehawks of the most brain-dead order.



/end rant.

Bad ballet? Seriously?

I think your brain is full of ****e to be honest

ItsAWindUp

mojesius wrote: »

It's so fcuking boring to watch.

90 minutes pass and as a spectator, you're lucky if a couple of goals are scored in that time. Most matches (take the premiership or whatever it's called nowadays) are 0-0 and 1-0 and anything different from that gets the usual response such as 'Great match last night'. Snore.

Also, there are way too many competitions, leagues and cups to warrant genuine excitement. There's always another match, another cup if your team lose that week. It's actually becoming quite like sports in the United States such as baseball and football -It's on too fcuking often, so it really doesn't matter if you win or lose. It's all about the ££££££

A myth.

Brain Stroking

starbelgrade wrote: »

Bitchy or what?

Whats it to you? The quote was plagiarised and passed off as his/her own witty remark

Dotrel

foxyboxer wrote: »

+ If you lose, you're out. One match, straight knockout.
Unfortunately, we've had scenario's where Liverpool (who haven't won a domestic championship for over two decades) have won this competition.

The European Cup has always been played over two legs, so you could always lose several games along the way and still win it.

You seem to also rate the CL of lesser value than the Premier League? IMHO there's nothing impressive about racking up 30 wins against the likes of Bolton and Sunderland if you have the wherewithall to do so.

The list of teams who have won the CL

• Ajax
• Barcelona
• Bayern Munich
• Borussia Dortmund
• Internazionale
• Juventus
• Liverpool
• Manchester United
• Milan
• Porto
• Real Madrid

List of teams who have won the prem.

• Manchester United
• Chelsea
• Arsenal
• Blackburn Rovers

I know which collection I think includes the better array of clubs.

You can basically buy the league if you want it. But many from Abramovich to Mansour have already realised that the CL takes a bit more than just money.

cml387

This is why we don't have football threads in AH.
Lowers the tone.
Next thing they'll be chanting "You're going home in an ambulance" at each other.

rockdrummer4

kfallon wrote: »

Football is the greatest game on earth to play, I don't care how old you are or if you only play 5-a-side or even a kickabout on the green you still get that buzz from sticking one in the top corner.

And I love watching it cos for all the diving, fouling and cheating it still serves up magic moments like some in this thread
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056357775

It's the most popular sport in the world.....the majority of us can't be wrong!

Oh yes ye can, look at xfactor and all that ****e music in the charts !!

All it proves is that their are alot of very stupid people out there

foxyboxer

To the Soccer-haters: A lot of people like it. Some even play it :pac:
To the Soccer-Lovers: Tis not everyone's cup of tea.

positron

All sports are same. It's all about how you engage in it. If you are having a good time with your friends or family while watching it or playing it or discussing it even, then that time becomes very rewarding - you would feel the camaraderie and togetherness and what not. It's not the game, it's the company.

And about team loyalties - I am exactly like you OP - I can not stand how some people are so passionate about ManU or Liverpool while they couldn't give a flying f*ck about their local team that's struggling. I can not relate to them at all. I totally understand Football World Cup works, and how each nation wants to win, and I love it! But I do not (and don't want to) understand or follow Premier League.

starbelgrade

Brain Stroking wrote: »

Whats it to you? The quote was plagiarised and passed off as his/her own witty remark

Half the stuff posted in AH is lifted from somewhere else.

foxyboxer

Dotrel wrote: »

The European Cup has always been played over two legs, so you could always lose several games along the way and still win it.

You seem to also rate the CL of lesser value than the Premier League? IMHO there's nothing impressive about racking up 30 wins against the likes of Bolton and Sunderland if you have the wherewithall to do so.

The list of teams who have won the CL

• Ajax
• Barcelona
• Bayern Munich
• Borussia Dortmund
• Internazionale
• Juventus
• Liverpool
• Manchester United
• Milan
• Porto
• Real Madrid

List of teams who have won the prem.

• Manchester United
• Chelsea
• Arsenal
• Blackburn Rovers

I know which collection I think includes the better array of clubs.

You can basically buy the league if you want it. But many from Abramovich to Mansour have already realised that the CL takes a bit more than just money.

Liverpool fan eh?

1955–1991: Knockout format, one club per country (the league champion) plus the defending champion. I was always under the impression it was straight knockout.

A championship is more like a war and suggests longevity and ample resources where firepower wins the day. It tests a team over an extended period where the quality (which as you suggest can be bought) usually shines through. Therefore the best team is the one that wins the championship. Including wins for example on a shítty cold december night away to Stoke.

Cup competitions have more to do with luck too. A top team can have injuries etc or just have a bad day and get knocked out. There's always that live to fight another day with a championship.

The champions league is a cup competition. Just ask Birmingham. They won the Carling Cup this year but were relegated a few weeks later. Would they hand back the cup to still remain in the top flight?

Brain Stroking

rockdrummer4 wrote: »

Oh yes ye can, look at xfactor and all that ****e music in the charts !!

All it proves is that their are alot of very stupid people out there

Football is the most popular game on earth. 2 billion people watch the World Cup Final. Millions attend matches all over the world every week. It doesnt matter what the culture is, football is a big part of it. At the highest level of the world's most popular sport there is unbelievable entertainment in watching the world's best perform.
There is more drama in a single football season than in any drama. People like the above commenter only see sport in terms of the mechanics involved. "So boring cos there's no goals" etc.
What they miss is the sheer drama involved. That anything can happen on any given day. How different cultures react to different situations on the pitch. The sense of togetherness one can feel in any foreign country with any person by simply talking football.

Stick to not washing your hair and strumming that guitar like a good lad

LordSutch

Football she's a cruel mistress )

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeG9r6HxJgE&feature=player_detailpage

Brain Stroking

starbelgrade wrote: »

Half the stuff posted in AH is lifted from somewhere else.

Exactly half?

Orando Broom

I enjoy endorsing sports teams through partizan rhetoric.

pickarooney

The King of Moo wrote: »

I don't get how you couldn't be immensely excited to play for your country in the World Cup (though the young German team looked like a lot of them were, and they played some good football).

I also couldn't believe when Irish players said they would've committed the same handball that Thierry Henry did if they were in the same position.

You don't get how someone would be excited enough to play in the World Cup that they would do anything to get there?

Dotrel

foxyboxer wrote: »

Liverpool fan eh?

Not at all. I'm a CL fan. At it's height I see the best teams in the world really put to the test. It's my favourite competion (even ahead of the World Cup) and just because it's occasionally won by a so-called "unworthy" team like Liverpool or Porto doesn't change that it's still the #1 competition to win imho.

1955–1991: Knockout format, one club per country (the league champion) plus the defending champion. I was always under the impression it was straight knockout.

It was a two legged competition. You could lose game #1 2-0 and then go thru with a 3-0 win in the next game. Wash and repeat. You said one loss and out (like an FA cup)

A championship is more like a war and suggests longevity and ample resources where firepower wins the day. It tests a team over an extended period where the quality (which as you suggest can be bought) usually shines through. Therefore the best team is the one that wins the championship. Even for example on a shítty cold december night away to Stoke.

My point exactly. If you can assemble a deep squad of quality players then there's nothing stopping you winning game after game almost by default (esp as the season progress). Every league season ends with the same teams at the top purely because they were able to dig deep whilst the rest ran out of resources. It was nothing to do with my best XI vs your best XI.

Cup competitions have more to do with luck too. A top team can have injuries etc or just have a bad day and get knocked out. There's always that live to fight another day with a championship.

That's true of any competition. You could lose Wayne Rooney and find your next game is a League Title decider vs Man City.

The champions league is a cup competition. Just ask Birmingham. They won the Carling Cup this year but were relegated a few weeks later. Would they hand back the cup to still remain in the top flight?

I'm not comparing the League cup with the Prem. I'm comparing the CL with the Prem. CL is a competition saught after by all the best teams in Europe. English league is generally won by those clubs who can wipe the floor with rubbish the best for 9 months.

Nalz

the groutch wrote: »

everyone in Manchester is a Man City fan
everyone in Ireland is a Man Utd fan

Go figure

Ignorance at its highest. Try telling my family from Manchester that. I'm biting now when I shouldnt but meh I'm bored in work.

foxyboxer

It's a good competition for sure, but, only in the spring when the games really matter which makes it more exciting. I'm not really interested in watching Ruben Kazan against Dynamo Kiev as a neutral fan. I want the excitement of knockout games and such group games are merely money spinners for UEFA, TV and clubs.

Do you accept my point though that having top 4 teams in the "Champions" League diminishes the prestige of the competition when before when a team won the european cup, they could be deemed the best European team of that year?

The King of Moo

Brain Stroking wrote: »

Football is the most popular game on earth. 2 billion people watch the World Cup Final. Millions attend matches all over the world every week. It doesnt matter what the culture is, football is a big part of it. At the highest level of the world's most popular sport there is unbelievable entertainment in watching the world's best perform.
There is more drama in a single football season than in any drama. People like the above commenter only see sport in terms of the mechanics involved. "So boring cos there's no goals" etc.
What they miss is the sheer drama involved. That anything can happen on any given day. How different cultures react to different situations on the pitch. The sense of togetherness one can feel in any foreign country with any person by simply talking football.

Stick to not washing your hair and strumming that guitar like a good lad

His name is rockdrummer4.

pickarooney wrote: »

You don't get how someone would be excited enough to play in the World Cup that they would do anything to get there?

Oh I do, but I like to think that would be counterbalanced by a sense of fair play.

I know rugby's not played solely by angels, but the way it's played, and the respect shown by players to the refs in particular is something football players really could learn from.

Dotrel

foxyboxer wrote: »

It's a good competition for sure, but, only in the spring when the games really matter which makes it more exciting. I'm not really interested in watching Ruben Kazan against Dynamo Kiev as a neutral fan. I want the excitement of knockout games and such group games are merely money spinners for UEFA, TV and clubs.

Could you watch say Wigan vs Blackburn as a neutral fan? If not then I don't really see the difference. I understand what you mean about knockout being more exciting than league in this regard tho.

Do you accept my point though that having top 4 teams in the "Champions" League diminishes the prestige of the competition when before when a team won the european cup, they could be deemed the best European team of that year?

No, if anything it makes it more prestigious. Of course it makes it a misnomer to called the "Champions" League but that is a small price to pay to get literally all the best players in the world together in a way that even the World Cup cannot offer. And if you want to be assured I'm not a Liverpool fan I'll go on record right now that it's a much better and tougher competition to win now than in was back in the pre-CL era as a result and that a "CL" win is worth more imho than the old "EC" wins.

admiralofthefleet

i understand football but i dont like it. i use my lack of interest in it to wind people up when their team has been beaten

Brain Stroking

The King of Moo wrote: »

His name is rockdrummer4.

Ha ha christ, my apologies!

Think my point is valid though. Comparing one of the true examples of elite human endeavour to X-Factor and calling people who like football stupid deserves a good "boards" slapping in fairness.

Although i have to say: i read through After Hours maybe once every couple of days. And i find that it contains a larger quota of ignorance and narrow-mindedness than other forums. So i aint surprised to see people make crap arguments on this topic such as those mocking another's football knowledge whilst thinking the "old" European Cup was a one-off knockout competition. Spoofers

sensibleken

Brain Stroking wrote: »

Whats it to you? The quote was plagiarised and passed off as his/her own witty remark

from who?

kfallon

Brain Stroking wrote: »

Football is the most popular game on earth. 2 billion people watch the World Cup Final. Millions attend matches all over the world every week. It doesnt matter what the culture is, football is a big part of it. At the highest level of the world's most popular sport there is unbelievable entertainment in watching the world's best perform.
There is more drama in a single football season than in any drama. People like the above commenter only see sport in terms of the mechanics involved. "So boring cos there's no goals" etc.
What they miss is the sheer drama involved. That anything can happen on any given day. How different cultures react to different situations on the pitch. The sense of togetherness one can feel in any foreign country with any person by simply talking football.

Stick to not washing your hair and strumming that guitar like a good lad

I tip my hat to you good sir

Paz-CCFC

mojesius wrote: »

It's so fcuking boring to watch.

90 minutes pass and as a spectator, you're lucky if a couple of goals are scored in that time. Most matches (take the premiership or whatever it's called nowadays) are 0-0 and 1-0 and anything different from that gets the usual response such as 'Great match last night'. Snore.

I take it you're just making up that statitistic, instead of actually using any sort of evidence to back it up? I'm by no means a fan of the English Premier League, but a quick search through the results and you'd see that your claim is utter bollocks. 11 matches this season in the EPL have finished 0-0. 14 have finished 1-0. There have been 138 matches so far. So, 0-0s and 1-0s have accounted for a little over 18% of results. Matches have, on average, had 3 goals scored.

The League of Ireland shows similar stats - an average of around 2.7-2.8 goals scored in the top two divisions. Results such as 5-4s, 8-0s, have occurred this season. My own team, Cork City, have scored 73 league goals over 30 games. We've had two scoreless draws, while three of our matches finished in 1-0s (all City wins). We've been involved in more matches in which 6 goals or more have been scored.

Comparing football to other sports (as is often done), say rugby or GAA, isn't a like for like comparison. In rugby, you can score a try, a penalty, a drop goal or a conversion. The lowest score you can get is two points, and that has to immediately be preceded by a five pointer. Likewise, in GAA, you have two chances to score - one of which involves practically no chance for the keeper to save it. In football, there is only one way to score and it only counts as one score. If there were a rule where a goal counted as five scores in football and you could also score points by hitting it high over the bar, then there'd never be a scoreless match. But there isn't and, to be honest, I'm glad football is that way. Because scores are rarer than in other sports, they are cherished a lot more by players and fans, alike. You can't just chip away at your oppositions lead by taking the more cautious route of tipping the ball over the bar, or going for penalties/drop goals. You have to face them head on if you want to win. Cricket is probably the highest scoring sport in the world - surely, by your logic, it should be the best, right? (I actually like cricket, by the way).

Not that scores are the be all and end all of football. There is much more involved in the sport. There could be unbelievable 0-0 matches, while a match that finished 2-2 might have had nothing to offer bar the goals. There's the atmosphere in the matches, the banter with fellow and opposition fans, the excitement that's present before big cup draws, the pride of wearing your team's colours, the comradery of following your team "behind enemy lines", making new friends, having a few pints before or after the match. I could go on and on really. These are all things associated with football that mean just as much to me as the amount of score in the match. I wouldn't trade it for every football match finishing 10-10 or better.

Next time you're entering a discussion, try and do some bit of research and try to gain some bit of understanding of the subject, rather than just diving right in.

bayern282

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maxfresh

I'd happily watch match of the day and i enjoy the big tournaments like the world cup or euros ,

but dont think i'd have the interest to get a sky sports subscription and be watch premier league matches every other day