Do You Have To Tell A Guard.......

Freddie59

...........where you are going? If there is one thing that really irks me it's when they stop you in your car and ask "where are you going". Then you tell them and they ask you "where are you coming from".

If I'm behaving suspiciously I can understand it, but when you're out for a Sunday afternoon drive or such it seems intrusive to put it mildly.

starbelgrade

Just tell them the Garda that you've come from his wife's house & your on the way over to his sisters for a second round of sex.

ThePower11

The Guard couldn't care less where you are going or coming from they ask you these questions to see if you are suspicious or a little nervous!

LaFlammeRouge

Say Nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

orourkeda

Just answer the question.

Iwannahurl

Freddie59 wrote: »

...........where you are going? If there is one thing that really irks me it's when they stop you in your car and ask "where are you going". Then you tell them and they ask you "where are you coming from".

If I'm behaving suspiciously I can understand it, but when you're out for a Sunday afternoon drive or such it seems intrusive to put it mildly.

I know where you're coming from, and I can see where this is going.

pebbles21

Should have just said "I pay your wages and have you nothing else to be doing??"

They love that!:D

Freddie59

pebbles21 wrote: »

Should have just said "I pay your wages and have you nothing else to be doing??"

They love that!:D

I can only imagine the reaction to THAT one!:D

adamski8

Well you asked two different q's there OP:
Should The Gardai Have The right To Ask Where You Are going To/Coming From?
Yes
Do You Have To Tell A Guard where you are going?
No

Red21

Freddie59 wrote: »

If I'm behaving suspiciously I can understand it, but when you're out for a Sunday afternoon drive or such it seems intrusive to put it mildly.

How're they supposed to know without asking these questions

Freddie59

Red21 wrote: »

How're they supposed to know without asking these questions

Why do they want to know in the first instance?

starviewadams

Unless you're on your way to rob a bank or shoot Enda Kenny just tell them where you're going,saves a lot of hassle for you and the Garda!

hondasam

Freddie59 wrote: »

...........where you are going? If there is one thing that really irks me it's when they stop you in your car and ask "where are you going". Then you tell them and they ask you "where are you coming from".

If I'm behaving suspiciously I can understand it, but when you're out for a Sunday afternoon drive or such it seems intrusive to put it mildly.

They can ask the question but you don't have to tell them the truth. It's not as if they will know you are lying.
Do they ask this question during the day?

orourkeda

adamski8 wrote: »

Well you asked two different q's there OP:
Should The Gardai Have The right To Ask Where You Are going To/Coming From?
Yes
Do You Have To Tell A Guard where you are going?
No

Whats the point in asking then and why is giving an answer such a big deal?

LighterGuy

If i'm walking down the road, dressed normal (aka, i dont look like some skanger scumbag) a gardai has no right to ask me where i am going.

But on the other side of the coin if i'm walking down the road, dressed all dark, with my hood up. Walking shifty. Then they are just doing the job.

Ross_Mahon

Just politely tell him and save the hassle

Freddie59

Ross_Mahon wrote: »

Just politely tell him and save the hassle

But why should there be hassle in the first place? It's none of his/her business once I'm obeying the law.

TheUsual

I always point forward at the windscreen and say "that way of course".

ThePower11

Freddie59 wrote: »

But why should there be hassle in the first place? It's none of his/her business once I'm obeying the law.

They don't know your obeying the law though, you could be on the way to burn down Dail Eireann for all they know.

Ross_Mahon

Freddie59 wrote: »

But why should there be hassle in the first place? It's none of his/her business once I'm obeying the law.

Because they get very cranky when you don't play along with them, you don't have to tell them your business, just make something up.

starviewadams

Freddie59 wrote: »

But why should there be hassle in the first place? It's none of his/her business once I'm obeying the law.

Could be any number of reasons why the Garda would ask where you are going,could've been an assault/robbery/crash etc in the general area and you match the description of the person that they are looking for.

They aren't really interested in your private life,they're just trying to suss you out,if you or someone in your family was the victim of a crime I'm sure that you would want the Gardai to check on every potential suspect in the area in the hope of catching the perpretrator.

Freddie59

starviewadams wrote: »

Could be any number of reasons why the Garda would ask where you are going,could've been an assault/robbery/crash etc in the general area and you match the description of the person that they are looking for.

They aren't really interested in your private life,they're just trying to suss you out,if you or someone in your family was the victim of a crime I'm sure that you would want the Gardai to check on every potential suspect in the area.

Actually I wouldn't. Why would EVERYONE be a suspect? Do you work as a Garda?

policarp

What are you trying to hide, Freddie?
What've you been up to?

Freddie59

policarp wrote: »

What are you trying to hide, Freddie?
What've you been up to?

Ha ha! Not a lot I can tell you!:D

Badly Drunk Boy

About 13.8 years ago, something similar (but different) happened to me. I was cycling across the Curragh at about 3pm on a Sunday afternoon when a Garda car overtook me. A minute or two later, I saw it stopped at a fork in the road.

I continued on my merry way until the car caught up with me and one of the boyos inside waved me down. When I stopped (on my bike) the more senior one started to talk to me.

Garda-goon: Where are you going?

Me: For a cycle. It's healthy.

Garda-goon: Ah shure I know you. Didn't we have you in for drugs a few times?

Me: I've never been in a Garda station in my life.

Garda-goon: Ah no, I know you well!

Me: Eh, I don't think so.

Garda-goon: Okay, continue on...

(It went on a bit longer than that, but that was the gist).


The other lad with him looked like he was straight out of Templemore and the first lad was probably showing him how na Gardaí are supposed to abuse their power.

Red21

It's usually to check if you have been drinking a drop of whiskey

pebbles21

Freddie??....are you overweight by any chance??...

hondasam

Freddie59 wrote: »

Actually I wouldn't. Why would EVERYONE be a suspect? Do you work as a Garda?

They just want to engage in conversation with you to see if you have drink taken or what ever,if you act nervous they will become suspicious and ask more questions.
They could be looking for someone who they know is in the area, number of reasons really or they may be bored standing in the side of the road in the cold waiting for cars to pass.

ThePower11

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

About 13.8 years ago, something similar (but different) happened to me. I was cycling across the Curragh at about 3pm on a Sunday afternoon when a Garda car overtook me. A minute or two later, I saw it stopped at a fork in the road.

I continued on my merry way until the car caught up with me and one of the boyos inside waved me down. When I stopped (on my bike) the more senior one started to talk to me.

Garda-goon: Where are you going?

Me: For a cycle. It's healthy.

Garda-goon: Ah shure I know you. Didn't we have you in for drugs a few times?

Me: I've never been in a Garda station in my life.

Garda-goon: Ah no, I know you well!

Me: Eh, I don't think so.

Garda-goon: Okay, continue on...

(It went on a bit longer than that, but that was the gist).


The other lad with him looked like he was straight out of Templemore and the first lad was probably showing him how na Gardaí are supposed to abuse their power.

Do you have a passport?

bodhrandude

Freddie59 wrote: »

Why do they want to know in the first instance?

Perhaps there has been an incident in the area, a robbery, murder or a big fight, this would be a normal procedure. It could also be a spot check for insurance, tax or suspected drink driving, faulty light etc.

Edit: Starviewadams was in there first

Badly Drunk Boy

ThePower11 wrote: »

Do you have a passport?

I didn't at the time. I do now.

paddyandy

Guards have to act occasionally on the slightest and remotest suspicions i'm sure they don't get so bored that they are interested in casual small talk.It's not a job to get bored with.Everyone complains when there is no garda presence in times of trouble.So support them with courtesy anyway.

Chuck Stone

So what happens if I say 'sorry but what seems to be the problem'?

Can they lie?

phantom_lord

LaFlammeRouge wrote: »

Say Nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

That's not relevant for Ireland though.

hondasam

Chuck Stone wrote: »

So what happens if I say 'sorry but what seems to be the problem'?

Can they lie?

anyone can lie.

Freddie59

It's amazing from the replies so far that some people are prepared to accept such intrusion. I think it is completely unacceptable personally.

ejmaztec

Just tell the guard that you're going round to his house to piss through his letter-box and smash all his windows.

LaFlammeRouge

phantom_lord wrote: »

That's not relevant for Ireland though.

Why exactly?

LighterGuy

The amount of people that rationalise a garda's behaviour on here is sickening :rolleyes:

Gardai are like regular people. Some good. Some bad. You cant rationalise the latter tho. Theres a good percentage of Gardai who are just dicks. Now, the job can turn many a person that way. That I understand. But others just get a power stroke and be dicks without reason.

But on here, we seem to rationalise all as one. That being "they're all good" :rolleyes:

Chuck Stone

hondasam wrote: »

anyone can lie.

Okay... is a cop on the beat allowed to lie to a civilian or is he required to be truthful by nature of his work?

Chuck Stone

LighterGuy wrote: »

...... :rolleyes:........
................................... :rolleyes:

That fucking smiley.

hondasam

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Okay... is a cop on the beat allowed to lie to a civilian or is he required to be truthful by nature of his work?

What do you mean by lying? he/she is not obliged to tell you about his job or what it is he is doing.
If you ask him his name he is obliged to give it to you.

LighterGuy

Chuck Stone wrote: »

That fucking smiley.

.. is awesome. I agree.

ejmaztec

LighterGuy wrote: »

The amount of people that rationalise a garda's behaviour on here is sickening :rolleyes:

Gardai are like regular people. Some good. Some bad. You cant rationalise the latter tho. Theres a good percentage of Gardai who are just dicks. Now, the job can turn many a person that way. That I understand. But others just get a power stroke and be dicks without reason.

But on here, we seem to rationalise all as one. That being "they're all good" :rolleyes:

Okay then, they just want to provoke someone so they can beat the lard out of them.

Iang87

I for one do tell them where i'm going simply cos i couldn't be arsed arguing when i'm driving at like one in the morning. After a few pints anyway all i wanna do is go home

Pete M.

If you're so perplexed OP, then you should just tell them.

otherwise, just be cool brother :cool:

Chuck Stone

LighterGuy wrote: »

.. is awesome. I agree.

Hmmmm

bodhrandude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58HJPiigxR0

Chuck Stone

hondasam wrote: »

What do you mean by lying? he/she is not obliged to tell you about his job or what it is he is doing.
If you ask him his name he is obliged to give it to you.

Okay HS just for you.

Cop: Where are you heading to Sir?

Me: What seems to be the problem officer?

Cop: ................


Fill in the blanks.

hondasam

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Okay HS just for you.

Cop: Where are you heading to Sir?

Me: What seems to be the problem officer?

Cop: ................


Fill in the blanks.

After my job are ya, I will ask the questions, now where you heading SIR:pac:

phantom_lord

LaFlammeRouge wrote: »

Why exactly?

Because instead of having the equivalent of the fifth amendment in Ireland we have this.