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Arguing with ignorant people

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  • 07-12-2011 2:41am
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    TinfoilTinman
    Registered Users Posts: 46 ✭


    Every so often, you meet a person who lacks information on a particular topic and yet argues vehemently their point. The topic is usually one in which you have extensive knowledge. In the more heated arguements, straw men and ad hominem attacks can arise.

    The person is not necessarily stupid (though can be), just mis/uninformed.

    Q1: What topics would you consider yourself well-versed in?
    (you need not be an expert or have a profession related to it)

    Q2: What is the wildest claim you've heard in relation to it?


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    starbelgrade
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    Q1: What topics would you consider yourself well-versed in?

    A1: I know absolutely everything about everything.


    Q2: What is the wildest claim you've heard in relation to it?

    A2: See answer 1.


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    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    TinfoilTinman wrote: »

    Q1: What topics would you consider yourself well-versed in?
    (you need not be an expert or have a profession related to it)

    Anything about sex.

    Q2: What is the wildest claim you've heard in relation to it?

    I once heard a man say he lasted a full eight minutes.


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    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    Q1: What topics would you consider yourself well-versed in?

    A1: I know absolutely everything about everything.


    Q2: What is the wildest claim you've heard in relation to it?

    A2: See answer 1.
    Huh?


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    johnr1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭johnr1


    hondasam wrote: »
    I once heard a man say he lasted a full eight minutes.

    Listen here, If we lasted for hours, then you'd be a pauper, so quit yore bitchin

    :D:P


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    Jul3s
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    Arguing with ignorant people is abit like......................
    Arguing with Cork people


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    Sauve
    Registered Users Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    This is too difficult for AH.


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    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I think I have more of a Jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none type knowledge bank.

    If someone is being dogmatically stupid with me I just pretend that they are right to bring the conversation/debate to an end as quickly as possible.


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    FootShooter
    Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭FootShooter


    Q1: Chemtrails. Only the most stupid and most ignorant would believe that chemtrails exist.

    Q2. That chemtrails actually exist.


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    Temptamperu
    Registered Users Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Well thats just your opinion isnt it?

    OF FUCKING COURSE ITS MY OPINION YOU THICK LUMP OF SHITE.

    I hate that response


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    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    OP...I'd argue this point with you but...well ya know.


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    massdebater
    Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭massdebater


    That's ignorant

    /Michael Jackson voice


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    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Temptamperu wrote: »
    Well thats just your opinion isnt it?

    OF FUCKING COURSE ITS MY OPINION YOU THICK LUMP OF SHITE.

    I hate that response

    Just reply with 'well spotted' and they stop pointing out the obvious. ;)


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    mackg
    Registered Users Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    I think I have more of a Jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none type knowledge bank.

    If someone is being dogmatically stupid with me I just pretend that they are right to bring the conversation/debate to an end as quickly as possible.

    Jesus Christ this. I can't stand arguing with irrational people, if they are that hell bent on not listening to reasonable arguments leave them off.


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    Kanoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe


    this is really just a subtle continuation of the abiogenesis/intelligent design discussion over in the unpopular opinion thread where a couple of people spent a day trying to convince each other their super powers were better than the other, isn't it?

    They're all lovely super powers.


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    cursai
    Registered Users Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭cursai


    Please merge with Atheism thread to allow access of ignoramus's>>>


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    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    cursai wrote: »
    Please merge with Atheism thread to allow access of ignoramus's>>>

    Spot the irony...


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    flutterflye
    Registered Users Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    I guess aspergers and adhd would be what I know the most about.

    The usual crap that makes my blood boil are statements like "these disorders didn't exist when I was young", or "adhd is just a made up term for boldness", "it's the parents fault", "all he/she needs is some manners put on them", "they grow out of it" and so on.

    Oh and also depression - "Just snap yourself out of it". Aaaaggghhh!!!


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    policarp
    Registered Users Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭policarp


    You think I know F*** nothing. . .

    I know F*** ALL. . .


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    #20
    minidazzler
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    People don't argue because they are right, they argue because they want to win. In fact, arguing with you increases how much they believe in their argument and thus increases their need to win to prove you wrong, the funny thing is that it happens on your side too, so it's two people trying to win by proving the other wrong but the more they argue the more they want to argue to "win"


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    im invisible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    I know fcuk-all about anything, but with a few pints in me, i'll argue anything with anyone, i especially enjoy when both of us are arguing for the same side, but are too drunk to realise it.


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    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    minidazzler wrote: »
    People don't argue because they are right, they argue because they want to win. In fact, arguing with you increases how much they believe in their argument and thus increases their need to win to prove you wrong, the funny thing is that it happens on your side too, so it's two people trying to win by proving the other wrong but the more they argue the more they want to argue to "win"

    I'm afraid that is completely wrong..
    trollface.pic


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    im invisible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    ...reminds me of a short story by Irvine Welsh, something like 'magic vs unknown scince' or 'the two professers' or something...


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    Jumpy
    Registered Users Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Temptamperu wrote: »
    Well thats just your opinion isnt it?

    OF FUCKING COURSE ITS MY OPINION YOU THICK LUMP OF SHITE.

    I hate that response

    Are you sure they are not just taking advantage of your Big Lebowski ignorance?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ


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    Daniel S
    Registered Users Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    I find that arguments tend to arise from people not realising I'm right.


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    #26
    blackbird98
    Registered Users Posts: 533 ✭✭✭blackbird98


    an old saying that says a lot:

    He who thinks he knows something, knows nothing. He who knows he knows nothing, knows something!!


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    #27
    Duggy747
    Registered Users Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I know what I know and normally keep my opinion to myself. Only rarely do I come out of the woodwork when called for, like an idiot friend I had on Facebook who kept spreading terrible anti-everything propaganda and jumped on every bandwagon imaginable like the capitalist conspiracy of computers and flat-screens TV's & monitors despite her having the same knowledge of IT as a granny's weakened knee.

    Never argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience...........or drive you to murder.


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    foxyboxer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    People who think the Moon landings were faked because they saw some photographs on the internet without stars and stuff :rolleyes:

    It's like a bull and a red flag to me.


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    #29
    working fool
    Registered Users Posts: 813 ✭✭✭working fool


    Q1 panel eating

    Q2 sure that will polish out


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    siltirocker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭siltirocker


    Temptamperu wrote: »
    Well thats just your opinion isnt it?

    OF FUCKING COURSE ITS MY OPINION YOU THICK LUMP OF SHITE.

    I hate that response

    I don't think you've picked that phrase up right. That phrase highlights that the person is happy that it is YOUR opinion and one that is not not popular with the masses. It is a well shrouded insult.


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    Leftist
    Registered Users Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    This place has thousands of these tabloid, chinese whisper educated types who think anything that isn't republican and catholic is wrong. if you try to reason with them they start picking out the most irrelevant point of your post as if they were some intellectual sage. If you were to go off AH you'd think irish people really do deserve their stereotype.


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