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Helping out your worst enemy

  • 05-12-2011 1:06am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭


    Just reading the first few pages of the stingy people thread, and Biggins' comments on his mother in law gave me the idea to start this one :)

    If someone you absolutely despised desperately needed help - like say they were up shít creek without a paddle, I'm talking drug debts/drowning/you name it here - would you help them out? Or do you despise that one person to such an extent that you'd alert the dealers/push them under/you name it? And what did this person do to gain top spot on your hit list?

    Cmon, this is AH! We all have our skeletons in the closet :D

    I'll start it off. The person I despise the most didn't really do much, I repeated my leaving in a really scummy area and it was a lot of little things, I'd say nearly breaking my nose when I refused to stand and fight him was probably the most notable example. I'd help him out as I haven't seen him for half a year now and I don't really hold grudges. Though I'm in uni now while he's on the dole, and I have no shame in admitting this pleases me :D

    Well, would you? 102 votes

    No, I'd laugh at their misery :D
    0% 0 votes
    Yeah, no one deserves that level of revenge.
    59% 61 votes
    I don't care, what a stupid idea for a thread. You moron.
    17% 18 votes
    Atari jaguar
    22% 23 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Sorry OP, I'm not helping you, no matter what it is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Nope. Fcuk em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Fbjm


    Sorry OP, I'm not helping you, no matter what it is

    Oh how I lold. not really.

    Damn, meant to add a poll, can't figure out how to edit one in now. Ah well :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    I dunno, if I could I would probably help anyone that asked me for help. the amount of effort I put in to helping said person is determined on wether I like them or not though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Fbjm wrote: »
    Oh how I lold. not really.

    Damn, meant to add a poll, can't figure out how to edit one in now. Ah well :D

    Just above the OP on the right is thread tools, it's in there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭manlad


    Fbjm wrote: »
    Though I'm in uni now while he's on the dole, and I have no shame in admitting this pleases me :D

    He's already ahead of you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    They are your worst enemy for a reason - they deserve the consequences.

    Let them burn in hell for all I care


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Option 3 was too tempting to resist :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,066 ✭✭✭Washington Irving


    I don't hate anyone enough to let them die if I could help it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    Good question. The right thing to do in most situations is to help out your fellow man. It feels really good to help somebody who maybe doesn't deserve it, and then see them drop their defences and reveal that insecurity was the only reason for their negative behaviour to begin with. The face people show to the world is often a lot harder than the reality, and sometimes when you show them that you will accept the weaker but kinder and more honest reality, they open up to you.

    Very few people really want to be pricks, fewer still want to stay that way.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Very much depends on the circumstances.

    Drug debts would be given a wide berth by me. Anyone into drugs to the point where they are in debt to a dealer is f*cked and would be beyond my help.

    Most other things considered but depends


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I couldn't let someone die but all the rest I could.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Fbjm


    Fbjm wrote: »
    Just reading the first few pages of the stingy people thread, and Biggins' comments on his mother in law gave me the idea to start this one :)

    If someone you absolutely despised desperately needed help - like say they were up shít creek without a paddle, I'm talking drug debts/drowning/you name it here - would you help them out? Or do you despise that one person to such an extent that you'd alert the dealers/push them under/you name it? And what did this person do to gain top spot on your hit list?

    Cmon, this is AH! We all have our skeletons in the closet :D

    I'll start it off. The person I despise the most didn't really do much, I repeated my leaving in a really scummy area and it was a lot of little things, I'd say nearly breaking my nose when I refused to stand and fight him was probably the most notable example. I'd help him out as I haven't seen him for half a year now and I don't really hold grudges. Though I'm in uni now while he's on the dole, and I have no shame in admitting this pleases me :D

    Good replies so far, but let's keep it interesting! Give us some stories lads!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    I'd love to have my enemy in Debt to me,that'd be much better satisfaction bailing him/her out than letting somebody else destroy their lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    There are a couple of people I would have killed if I could have gotten away with it at one time or another. But as time passed, that subsided to imagining that if they were at my mercy, I wouldn't save them even if it were no risk to myself. Now I would save them, I suppose, but wouldn't put myself at risk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 253 ✭✭Pinklady11


    Hmmm where do I start. Well the person who I would NEVER help in any situation is one of the most vile people I've ever had the displeasure of knowing. This person makes it her life ambition to make other peoples lives a misery. Spends most of her time plotting and planning.

    She attacked me for no reason when I was pregnant and since then I have completely cut off all contact. I never want anything to do with her again.

    And yes I do hope a big truck load of karma would arrive at her door. I'd love nothing more than to see her suffer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭Missmiddleton


    hate to say i'd be indifferent to their suffering. I'd rather help a real friend


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭AgileMyth


    Fbjm wrote: »
    Though I'm in uni
    I hate the word uni. When did this start creeping in here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    If they were drowning or if their life was in another immediate danger then yeah would more than likely do what I could to save them.

    Otherwise, feck em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    I wouldn't laugh in their misery, but I wouldn't help them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 638 ✭✭✭theTinker


    After the last year of my life. I would now watch them suffer and drown.

    Any other time, I'd help anyone, Im known for my good spirit with people. I love all in my heart. But this one person is just beyond help. Evil to the core. The world is better without them.

    They got to know me as a friend, for months and months. We became close and then bam, I lost so much of my life in one week.
    They had single handily been plotting for months to remove some people from my life, stole from me, Threathen me serverely, and then spread horrible lies about me. Infact, our friendship was planned in advance by them.
    I could forgive an accident or any mistake, or any regret in some way. But to plot in advance to hurt a person for months for no reason other than to enjoy being in control and take from another.

    I hate this person with all my heart. I dont even see them as human. Merely some twisted creation that I often hope will die off soon.

    I know my thoughts on this are accurate as recentily they took some drugs and it went very bad for them, I was told they were in hospital, I remember feeling happy and hoped they wouldnt come back out. I've had to seperate my entire life from any connection to them just to avoid having it repeatily harassed. A horrible horrible animal.

    I know for a fact, they are repeating the pattern with another now. Someone they took from me. They're isolating them from all thier supportive connections. Sickening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    If someone murdered a member of my family i'd gladly watch them drown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    Well i follow the satanic bible on this matter so: "Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    My worst enemy from my late teen years is now doing a life sentence, And I laugh about it everyday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    I generally try to help people when I can. It is best to be owed a debt of gratitude even if it is never repaid.

    My help would never be of the financial kind though for someone I didn't like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    I cant think of anyone who has wronged me enough to hold a grudge against. But if there was, i would have no problem watching them die a slow and painful death, i'm all for turn the other cheek etc etc, but if someone done something serious enough, i wouldn't even bat an eyelid at their death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Yes.

    But only because my 6th Year English teacher used to always say that I'm my own worst enemy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Wereghost


    The OP's nemesis sounds like a right scumbag. Having said that, there's no person of my acquaintance who I'd want to see come to a grisly end or anything. I would probably not be above a little bit of schadenfreude in certain circumstances, though; sometimes, what goes around comes around. Anyway, that's a "Yeah" from me.

    Fictional characters are another thing. There are one or two who others laud but whose hands I'd saw off. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    charlemont wrote: »
    My worst enemy from my late teen years is now doing a life sentence, And I laugh about it everyday.
    Muhahahaha.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    theTinker wrote: »
    After the last year of my life. I would now watch them suffer and drown.

    Any other time, I'd help anyone, Im known for my good spirit with people. I love all in my heart. But this one person is just beyond help. Evil to the core. The world is better without them.

    They got to know me as a friend, for months and months. We became close and then bam, I lost so much of my life in one week.
    They had single handily been plotting for months to remove some people from my life, stole from me, Threathen me serverely, and then spread horrible lies about me. Infact, our friendship was planned in advance by them.
    I could forgive an accident or any mistake, or any regret in some way. But to plot in advance to hurt a person for months for no reason other than to enjoy being in control and take from another.

    I hate this person with all my heart. I dont even see them as human. Merely some twisted creation that I often hope will die off soon.

    I know my thoughts on this are accurate as recentily they took some drugs and it went very bad for them, I was told they were in hospital, I remember feeling happy and hoped they wouldnt come back out. I've had to seperate my entire life from any connection to them just to avoid having it repeatily harassed. A horrible horrible animal.

    I know for a fact, they are repeating the pattern with another now. Someone they took from me. They're isolating them from all thier supportive connections. Sickening.
    Lots of wolves out there dude. I know twisted people like that and believe me its never a happy story for them in the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Good question. The right thing to do in most situations is to help out your fellow man. It feels really good to help somebody who maybe doesn't deserve it, and then see them drop their defences and reveal that insecurity was the only reason for their negative behaviour to begin with. The face people show to the world is often a lot harder than the reality, and sometimes when you show them that you will accept the weaker but kinder and more honest reality, they open up to you.

    Very few people really want to be pricks, fewer still want to stay that way.

    Solid post. Well said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe


    I would relish the thought of saving the life of someone who hated me,relish it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They're your worst enemy for a reason aren't they?

    There's one girl who made my life during college (not uni.. never!) complete & utter hell.

    I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    They're your worst enemy for a reason aren't they?

    There's one girl who made my life during college (not uni.. never!) complete & utter hell.

    I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire.

    Would you sh1t?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    I'd help them because I'm not a spiteful w@nker.

    Also, would be deadly to have the upperhand


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Unfortunately yes i would, it would probably be worse for them to have to ask for my help.
    I could not see someone suffer, having said that I don't hate anyone, i might dislike a few people but would still help if they asked me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    It would depend. If it was something that I could do and would have little or a small impact on me, then I'd do it. However if it was something major like, as you mention, giving them a large sum of money for a drug debt and cripple myself financially, I wouldn't.

    Same with if they're drowning, if it were in a swimming pool and there was no real risk to me, I'd do it. But I wouldn't jump into a flooded river or put myself at risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 poppyseeder


    No I wouldn't help,even in a life or death situation..this particular person has ruined more lives than I care to think about and has yet to reap what he has sown.Makes me want to believe in god just so he can burn in hell.On a lighter note,generally speaking I would help anyone else:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Carter P Fly


    Conan the Barbarian summed it up nicely whan asked What is best in life?

    To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭UpCork


    I try not to hate anyone, as it is too strong an emotion to waste on someone. However, there are several people I quite dislike. However, if they were in trouble (depends what kind of trouble) and I could give them a helping hand I would.

    I suppose I look at my Mother. She is a walking saint, always willing to do a good turn for someone and help them out. I've often seen her go to hell and back for someone who has been nasty to her or done her a bad turn in the past and when I've asked her why she's done it, she always replies with "we'll you'd like to see no one in a spot of bother".

    I hope if I'm ever in a situation like that I can show some compassion too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    no, theyre an enemy for a good reason, well to me anyway as i dont hate anyone unless its entirely 100% justifiable.

    plus, assuming they have done something on you or interfered with your life in a bad way/s etc etc, then how would you know that they would do the same for you if you needed help, or if they did help, how do you know theyre not just going to make it worse for their own benefit or something like that.

    someone does something on you for absolutly no reason with no remorse whatsoever, then more fool you for helping them when they need it tbh, and yes i would have been the nice, forgive and forget type person up to this year, wont be doing that at all so willingly in the future

    i really do hope theres such a thing as karma


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I wouldn't help the cùnts even if they got on their knees and begged. It would actually enrage me if they came to me looking for help.

    I could have them in my debt but knowing the people I know I'd never see said debt repaid.

    Unless it was a matter of life & death I'd let them be fùcked, wouldn't break my heart one bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    After years of marriage, came out that my uncle-in-law (17stone fat f*ck) was beating my aunt (8stone, 5'3").

    I'd bury the c*nt myself, no questions asked. Unfortunately not worth passing up my own life in prison for. However if I saw him facing certain death, I'd do absolutely nothing to help him.

    I hold grudges against people that cross me - why bother with someone who's willing to hurt you? F*ck them - let them suffer as they've made you suffer. This turn the other cheek stuff is BS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭moco


    There’s only one person I hate. I went out for him for about 2 months and finished it in a nice way (I didn’t do anything nasty or cheat on him) but he just would not accept it and harassed me for months.

    I worked with him and I’d spend the day getting abusive e mails off him, then as soon as I left work my phone would start hopping with texts and calls that I never answered. When he saw me outside a nightclub he got me by the throat and went to hit me til my friend ran over and he ran away. He had other people phoning up threatening to glass me in the face and kept turning up outside my house shouting abuse. He told everyone in work he dumped me and I wouldn’t leave him alone, and he raced to tell any new starters in the job a load of lies and tried to turn them all against me. I had to work with him for a few years after that and I absolutely detest the sight of him. Even the sound of his stupid voice makes my blood boil.

    If I saw him dying in the street I’d walk on by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭bradyle


    I don't know really...I voted I'd help...and I'd like to think I would

    Like if someones life was in imminent danger drowning, fire etc there's no way I wouldn't try to help them no matter how much I hated them.

    But see I don't think I'd lend them money if they were in trouble with drug dealers or something...so guess I'm not as nice as I'd like to be


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