Losing our Indepencendce

NinjaK

Just wondering what are the thoughts of the people on this website. We gained our Independence from England after 800 years of occupation not too long ago. It was a long fought struggle in which many great Irish men died in the process.
Now we have lost our economic Independence until we pay off the bankers debts and now we are also facing more loss of sovereignty with the upcoming fiscal union with the EU - http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1202/eurozone.html
Personally I am totally against this. If a country doesn't have Independence then it is a pathetic country. I feel sorry for our Patriotic dead, they died for this pathetic bimbo generation who have destroyed this country.

Biggins

With yet another treaty possibly on the way, we're screwed.
Germany once again is taking control over Europe and the political sheep are letting it happen.

Kaneda_

NinjaK wrote: »

Just wondering what are the thoughts of the people on this website. We gained our Independence from England after 800 years of occupation not too long ago. It was a long fought struggle in which many great Irish men died in the process.
Now we have lost our economic Independence until we pay off the bankers debts and now we are also facing more loss of sovereignty with the upcoming fiscal union with the EU - http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1202/eurozone.html
Personally I am totally against this. If a country doesn't have Independence then it is a pathetic country. I feel sorry for our Patriotic dead, they died for this pathetic bimbo generation who have destroyed this country.

We are Ireland,we are a tiny little speck on the edge of europe that no one cares about who never had real independance anyway.

Just emigrate to a proper country if you want.

hooradiation

Biggins wrote: »

With yet another treaty possibly on the way, we're screwed.
Germany once again is taking control over Europe and the political sheep are letting it happen.

Never should have given the vote to any species from the family Bovidae.

Pighead

Ask not what your country can do for you- ask what your country can do for Germany.

He he he. Come classic biting satire there. Great stuff Pighead. And to think some people here think you're a dumbass who only does fart jokes.

Anyway back to the original point. OP stop writing messages giving out about the country's situation and start writing messages making jokes and biting satire instead. Joking and satirising are the only way we'll get ourselves out of this mess.

AlmightyCushion

Pighead wrote: »

Ask not what your country can do for you- ask what your country can do for Germany.

He he he. Come classic biting satire there. Great stuff Pighead. And to think some people here think you're a dumbass who only does fart jokes.

Anyway back to the original point. OP stop writing messages giving out about the country's situation and start writing messages making jokes and biting satire instead. Joking and satirising are the only way we'll get ourselves out of this mess.

Didn't you hear? The government are starting to tax jokes now. That'll be 15c please pighead.

cosmicfart

lets just hope the Euro recession continues to deepen and that Greece goes tits up. there is not point in us citizens been able to vote on a referendum on a treaty when the powers that be just continue to make a mockery of democracy by making us re-vote until they get the answer they want.

Pighead

Pighead wrote: »

Ask not what your country can do for you- ask what your country can do for Germany.

He he he. Come classic biting satire there. Great stuff Pighead. And to think some people here think you're a dumbass who only does fart jokes.

Anyway back to the original point. OP stop writing messages giving out about the country's situation and start writing messages making jokes and biting satire instead. Joking and satirising are the only way we'll get ourselves out of this mess.

http://files.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/461491939.jpg
dolanbaker doubts that Ireland will be allowed to remain in the "euro mkII" club, so there is no real need to worry about losing sovereignty.

Snakeblood

I think we should all get naked and start riding each other, the IMF will leave in disgust.

Tiocfaidh Armani

Kaneda_ wrote: »

We are Ireland,we are a tiny little speck on the edge of europe that no one cares about who never had real independance anyway.

He doesn't care if people outside Ireland care. He's Irish; he cares.:rolleyes:

Fear Uladh

Losing our Indepencendce

Am your grammar letting you down?

Pighead

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Didn't you hear? The government are starting to tax jokes now. That'll be 15c please pighead.

Pighead just went to his bank manager and said, 'Pighead like to start a small business. How does he go about it?'
'Simple,' said the bank manager. 'Buy a big one and wait.'

He he he. Classic.

Chalk Pighead down for 30c AC. It's all for a good cause.

ejmaztec

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Didn't you hear? The government are starting to tax jokes now. That'll be 15c please pighead.

There's more chance of the government getting a line of comedians queueing up to punch them.

mathie

Pighead wrote: »

Pighead just went to his bank manager and said, 'Pighead like to start a small business. How does he go about it?'
'Simple,' said the bank manager. 'Buy a big one and wait.'

He he he. Classic.

Chalk Pighead down for 30c AC. It's all for a good cause.

Pighead you've gone up a notch in my book.

That puts you at notch number one.

Biggins

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Didn't you hear? The government are starting to tax jokes now. That'll be 15c please pighead.

They are a big joke so should be taxing themselves more.

Look at Sweden for example. They decided to CUT taxes, etc to fight the current economic problem and for them, it worked. Their country is booming!
See: http://articles.cnn.com/2011-06-14/opinion/frum.sweden_1_fredrik-reinfeldt-swedish-way-civil-servants?_s=PM%3AOPINION

Each country is different but once again we acn/should learn from others who are actually doing things right.
Us do things right with either FG or FF or Labour? Got to be fcukin kidding!

Tiocfaidh Armani

Chillaxe wrote: »

Am your grammar letting you down?

As does yours;)

KeithAFC

2016 should be the year you get it back. Just like 1916...

Fear Uladh

Biggins wrote: »

They are a big joke so should be taxing themselves more.

Look at Sweden for example. They decided to CUT taxes, etc to fight the current economic problem and for them, it worked. Their country is booming!
See: http://articles.cnn.com/2011-06-14/opinion/frum.sweden_1_fredrik-reinfeldt-swedish-way-civil-servants?_s=PM%3AOPINION

Each country is different but once again we acn/should learn from others who are actually doing things right.
Us do things right with either FG or FF or Labour? Got to be fcukin kidding!

Sure you can still go on holidays Biggins.

I don't think auld Leo wants you to come back though.

Fear Uladh

Tiocfaidh Armani wrote: »

As does yours;)

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Kasabian

Pighead wrote: »

Ask not what your country can do for you- ask what your country can do for Germany.

He he he. Come classic biting satire there. Great stuff Pighead. And to think some people here think you're a dumbass who only does fart jokes.

Anyway back to the original point. OP stop writing messages giving out about the country's situation and start writing messages making jokes and biting satire instead. Joking and satirising are the only way we'll get ourselves out of this mess.

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Didn't you hear? The government are starting to tax jokes now. That'll be 15c please pighead.

Pighead wrote: »

Pighead just went to his bank manager and said, 'Pighead like to start a small business. How does he go about it?'
'Simple,' said the bank manager. 'Buy a big one and wait.'

He he he. Classic.

Chalk Pighead down for 30c AC. It's all for a good cause.

I think you are due a rebate.

4Sheets

Jesus Christ you swear we where all gonna have to learn German and enroll in german youth camps for indoctrination..Ireland can be alone like iceland,we can go back to fishing and farming,ten to house sort of thing or we can embrace Europe and as part of the union have a decent standard of living.

Biggins

4Sheets wrote: »

Jesus Christ you swear we where all gonna have to learn German and enroll in german youth camps for indoctrination..Ireland can be alone like iceland,we can go back to fishing and farming,ten to house sort of thing or we can embrace Europe and as part of the union have a decent standard of living.

Right lads and lassies, the next session for learning the Goose-step will be beginning shorty.
Form an orderly queue will ye?

Carter P Fly

We joined the EU poxy ages ago and havent been independent since then. WTF makes the OP think we are an independent nation when its patently obvious we aren't and havnt been for his entire lifetime.

Tiocfaidh Armani

Biggins wrote: »

Right lads and lassies, the next session for learning the Goose-step will be beginning shorty.
Form an orderly queue will ye?

Show me your papers first

Biggins

Tiocfaidh Armani wrote: »

Show me your papers first

Jawohl!

*snaps heels together*

Pighead

Kasabian wrote: »

I think you are due a rebate.

Rubbish. You've got your figures wrong Kasabian. It's guys like you that got us into this mess in the first place.

Stiffler2

Biggins wrote: »

With yet another treaty possibly on the way, we're screwed.
Germany once again is taking control over Europe and the political sheep are letting it happen.

I say "F**k it", let zee germans take over. At least they can run their own country and have shown an interest in taking over Europe anyway for the last 100 yrs.

I'm sure they'd do a much better job than any of our political parties could ever do.

I couldn't believe when Ireland's budget was leaked to Germany.
It's like saying please look at our budget, is it okay with you ??

lol

Biggins

Stiffler2 wrote: »

...I couldn't believe when Ireland's budget was leaked to Germany.
It's like saying please look at our budget, is it okay with you ??

lol

Wasn't leaked to Germany. Our budget details was given to 27 countries.
The Germans just let it leak out what our lot did.

Stiffler2

Biggins wrote: »

Wasn't leaked to Germany. Our budget details was given to 27 countries.
The Germans just let it leak out what our lot did.

I see, ridiculous none the less.
I now want zee germans to take over

Germans - gets $hit done

Biggins

http://www.thejournal.ie/berlin-documents-were-compiled-six-weeks-before-the-budget-282295-Nov2011/

The documents are dated October 28 – the date on which the votes for the presidential election were counted – and were circulated not just to Germany, but to all European Union finance ministers.

sensibleken

what people seem to overlook is that further integration includes integrating with the basketcases aswell (yes i include ireland in that)

This whole shít storm was caused by contagion and exposure, how in the name of god does increasing integration reduce that

Jazzzman

I think we should swallow our pride and try get back into the UK.

We've had a good laugh, but now we're up **** creek and our paddle is made of cheap MDF that someone robbed out of a ghost estate in Mullingar.

Cameron, please take us back.

sensibleken

sensibleken wrote: »

what people seem to overlook is that further integration includes integrating with the basketcases aswell (yes i include ireland in that)

This whole shít storm was caused by contagion and exposure, how in the name of god does increasing integration reduce that

This is precisely why Ireland won't be included in any future integrated EUROstate.

sensibleken

Jazzzman wrote: »

I think we should swallow our pride and try get back into the UK.

We've had a good laugh, but now we're up **** creek and our paddle is made of cheap MDF that someone robbed out of a ghost estate in Mullingar.

Cameron, please take us back.

you having been paying much attention to how much ****s going on in the UK have you?

hatrickpatrick

We have a vote, don't we? Any new treaty has to be ratified by a referendum.
If we give up our sovereignty - AGAIN - we have only our fellow countrymen and women to blame. I sure as hell know which way I'll be voting. How about you?

Jazzzman

sensibleken wrote: »

you having been paying much attention to how much ****s going on in the UK have you?

Let me give you a quick economics lesson pal.

When the Euro fails, we're boned. We'll be left with a worthless currency.

Sterling will be strong.

We need to get back in the UK, or at least discuss it.

sensibleken

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

We have a vote, don't we? Any new treaty has to be ratified by a referendum.
If we give up our sovereignty - AGAIN - we have only our fellow countrymen and women to blame. I sure as hell know which way I'll be voting. How about you?

Its best to wait to see what you'll actually be voting on rather than make up your mind now.

We will not neccesarily have to have a vote anyway. We have a referendum if decission making powers move away from the oireachtas, its not clear whether this will happen

sensibleken

Jazzzman wrote: »

Let me give you a quick economics lesson pal.

When the Euro fails, we're boned. We'll be left with a worthless currency.

Sterling will be strong.

We need to get back in the UK, or at least discuss it.

wow, thaks for the lesson. suddenly its all clear :rolleyes:

Kasabian

Pighead wrote: »

Rubbish. You've got your figures wrong Kasabian. It's guys like you that got us into this mess in the first place.

I have checked, you were taxed for 2 jokes and neither qualified. Cheque for 30c is in the post. Happy Hanukkah.

foxyboxer

We had our chance and we blew it. Spectacularly. No use crying over spilt milk.

Archeron

Couldnt a really REALLY big bake sale get us out of this financial mess?

Dibs on the rice cripie buns.

tonycascarino

Stiffler2 wrote: »

I see, ridiculous none the less.
I now want zee germans to take over

Germans - gets $hit done

I don't want Germany/France next nor near us

Snakeblood

tonycascarino wrote: »

I don't want Germany/France next nor near us

Don't worry, we've got England between us and them, we're perfectly safe.

John Doe1

Ich bein subservient to my german masters

mathie

Archeron wrote: »

Couldnt a really REALLY big bake sale get us out of this financial mess?

Dibs on the rice cripie buns.

Paraplegic buns?

sensibleken

mathie wrote: »

Paraplegic buns?

nah, theyre all stringy from under use

K-9

Stiffler2 wrote: »

I say "F**k it", let zee germans take over. At least they can run their own country and have shown an interest in taking over Europe anyway for the last 100 yrs.

I'm sure they'd do a much better job than any of our political parties could ever do.

I couldn't believe when Ireland's budget was leaked to Germany.
It's like saying please look at our budget, is it okay with you ??

lol

The 27 countries Minister of Finances get to see it as they are lending money to us, the IMF the same.

Funnily enough, the Germans did mess up but didn't think it was that big a deal as they presumed our parliament would have discussed it. They've a different way of operating parliament there, no whip system you see.

Spacedog

I'd rather trust the Germans with our finances than the string of piss, shlieveens elected to government.

Europe and the world are still not aware of the extent of corruption in Irish politics. They still believe the FF line as the cause being the global financial crisis.

Perhaps if Germany were running the finances they might have the stones to roll back the Corrib gas giveaway, and the unlimited child abuse insurance policy extended to the Church at the cost to the tax payer, which would cross out our entire debt overnight.

sensibleken

Spacedog wrote: »

I'd rather trust the Germans with our finances than the string of piss, shlieveens elected to government.

Europe and the world are still not aware of the extent of corruption in Irish politics. They still believe the FF line as the cause being the global financial crisis.

Perhaps if Germany were running the finances they might have the stones to roll back the Corrib gas giveaway, and the unlimited child abuse insurance policy extended to the Church at the cost to the tax payer, which would cross out our entire debt overnight.

what makes you think germans will be running the economy. The EU has a privatising agenda, no way there would be any return of oil or gas to the irish excequer, as it wont exist.

Spacedog

Spacedog wrote: »

I'd rather trust the Germans with our finances than the string of piss, shlieveens elected to government.

Compared to most African governments, Ireland's politicians are as pure as the driven snow!

Who's to say that German politicians are free from corruption. :rolleyes:

Celly Smunt

should've stayed with britain.