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Potential SHTF scenarios & tinfoil hat thread (Please read post 1)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Met Eireann have issued an Orange Wind Warning for Dublin, Louth, Wexford, Wicklow, Meath, Cork, Kerry & Waterford

    http://www.met.ie/nationalwarnings/default.asp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭The Glass Key


    ShadowFox wrote: »
    Met Eireann have issued an Orange Wind Warning for Dublin, Louth, Wexford, Wicklow, Meath, Cork, Kerry & Waterford

    http://www.met.ie/nationalwarnings/default.asp

    Monday mornings storm had the sea 30 meters* up into our garden (still leaves over 200m before it gets to the house) and I was cleaning up the mess this afternoon until I realised it could be as bad again tomorrow.

    I was going to go down and do a litter pick in the beach this week but no need now its all in our garden.

    Tonight's storm will be more interesting as despite the tide being lower by at least 30cm the wind looks like its aimed straight at us and that isn't good. Looks like I won't have to walk so far down the garden tomorrow to clear the mess up.

    *Horizontal, vertical and I wouldn't be here writing this!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Monday mornings storm had the sea 30 meters* up into our garden (still leaves over 200m before it gets to the house) and I was cleaning up the mess this afternoon until I realised it could be as bad again tomorrow.

    I was going to go down and do a litter pick in the beach this week but no need now its all in our garden.

    Tonight's storm will be more interesting as despite the tide being lower by at least 30cm the wind looks like its aimed straight at us and that isn't good. Looks like I won't have to walk so far down the garden tomorrow to clear the mess up.

    *Horizontal, vertical and I wouldn't be here writing this!
    In about 10 years you will be alright the government is doing some serious thinking about long-term flood defences

    http://www.thejournal.ie/howlin-flooding-cabinet-1298684-Feb2014/?utm_source=twitter_self


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭The Glass Key


    Won't help me if the sea don't get me the river does. Only option if we ever by the place it to rebuild starting with a floor level at least a meter higher than we are now.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭The Glass Key


    Last night and this morning the sea came a bit further up the garden, no big deal but it has my wife worried.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Ten people have been injured, at least two seriously, after an explosion “flattened” two houses and badly damaged a third, emergency services said.
    One man, believed to be in his 70s, is in a life-threatening condition after the blast in Clacton, Essex, at around 8.30am.
    Neighbours could be seen clambering over the rubble to help immediately after the explosion as the remains of the roof dangled precariously overhead.
    Some 19 properties have been evacuated and the walking wounded include one young teenager, Essex Police said.

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/10-injured-as-explosion-flattens-homes-621805.html


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    New MET warning :

    National Weather Warnings



    STATUS YELLOW

    Wind Warning for Dublin, Louth, Wexford, Wicklow, Meath, Cork, Kerry and Waterford

    An Atlantic depression will move eastwards across Ireland on Friday night and Saturday bringing strong southerly winds and heavy rain for a time with heavy showers following, giving a risk of localised flooding.

    Southerly winds will reach mean speeds of 45 to 65 km/hr with gusts of 80 to 110 km/hr and becoming west to southwest in direction in the south on Saturday morning.

    Issued:
    Thursday 06 February 2014 10:00

    Valid:
    Friday 07 February 2014 21:00 to Saturday 08 February 2014 12:00


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭The Glass Key


    Can't decide whether to clean up the garden or not? Volume wise I guess I'd fill a large skip with the organic rubish thats spread about 75 meters up the garden plus I'd have at least another half a skip full of beach stones spread over the grass.

    Neighbors have had rocks of the half tonne and heavier washed out of their sea defenses leaving them more exposed if we get another storm.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Can't decide whether to clean up the garden or not? Volume wise I guess I'd fill a large skip with the organic rubish thats spread about 75 meters up the garden plus I'd have at least another half a skip full of beach stones spread over the grass.

    Neighbors have had rocks of the half tonne and heavier washed out of their sea defenses leaving them more exposed if we get another storm.
    I think I speak for the rest of the lads aswell when I say this... its time you put up some pictures! ! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭The Glass Key


    aaakev wrote: »
    I think I speak for the rest of the lads aswell when I say this... its time you put up some pictures! ! ;)

    Thats a bit difficult without giving away where I live. Its not that spectacular except that the high tide mark of seaweed, sticks and litter is about 100m up from where the beach is. Back behind the line the highest waves reached is just grass strewn with more tidal rubbish and a lot of beach stones some about the size of your head.


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Fries-With-That


    Thats a bit difficult without giving away where I live.

    Aww sure we all know where you live ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭thehippychippy


    aaakev wrote: »
    I think I speak for the rest of the lads aswell when I say this... its time you put up some pictures! ! ;)

    Do you intend planting anything this year? You could pile up the organic waste for compost (or make a pallet composter) and use the pebbles in your garden. If it was me, id be composting and I'd gather the pebbles into a mound, they could be useful for something even just decorative (sometimes a dirty word with survivalists😮). Deffo wouldn't be paying for a skip. Then again, I hate throwing stuff out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭The Glass Key


    Sorry I was just using a skip as a size comparison. The organic waste is full of little granular bits of plastic so I'll pile it up with all the stones down the side of the garden at the bottom end near the sea, thats a rough area we want to build the level up a bit. Whole area started as a mass of Japanese Knot weed (probably washed up from the sea or down the river) and now I mow as much of it as I can to keep whats left of the knot weed down.

    The few plants that were down near the sea where buried in littoral rubbish and pebbles. The willows a bit further up but still in the path of the waves survived the onslaught very well so I might plant a lot more as a sort of windbreak/seabreak and to hold the soil together.


  • Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭thehippychippy


    Sorry I was just using a skip as a size comparison. The organic waste is full of little granular bits of plastic so I'll pile it up with all the stones down the side of the garden at the bottom end near the sea, thats a rough area we want to build the level up a bit. Whole area started as a mass of Japanese Knot weed (probably washed up from the sea or down the river) and now I mow as much of it as I can to keep whats left of the knot weed down.

    The few plants that were down near the sea where buried in littoral rubbish and pebbles. The willows a bit further up but still in the path of the waves survived the onslaught very well so I might plant a lot more as a sort of windbreak/seabreak and to hold the soil together.

    Opps my bad. You probably know this but willow is fairly easy to plant, if you have a few battered willow trees, cut the broken branches into foot long pieces and insert into the ground.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭The Glass Key


    Opps my bad. You probably know this but willow is fairly easy to plant, if you have a few battered willow trees, cut the broken branches into foot long pieces and insert into the ground.

    They are all planted from cuttings (about 20 different varieties), the trick here is to get them in at the right time. We are very wind blown so if they are in too early the wind dries them up but too late and the ground can go from sloppy wet to hard like concrete before they get a chance to get away.

    I was tying to keep the view of the sea from the house but the willows have crept across part of the garden and have proved a great wind break so I think I might be blocking off our sea view altogether.

    Edit> Back to the SHTF type stuff, nothing like a bit of bad weather to bring all the neighbors out to see if we are flooded and as always out come all the old stories of old Mrs Murphy being carried out of the house through 3 foot of water on her bed, anyway each time I get hear a few additions to the stories. This year I picked up one useful bit of information that one neighbor could remember looking down at our house 3 foot deep in water with the owners living "upstairs"; upstairs being a tiny single room up in the thatch of a single story house. Bad though that sounds the really useful bit of info was that some building up of the river bank further up the river solved that problem and that it hasn't happened since. Here's hoping :)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Just when we get over the threat of ESB strikes:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/electricians-vote-for-strike-over-pay-dispute-1.1683542
    Electricians have voted overwhelmingly in favour of strike action in the electrical contractor section in a dispute over pay.

    The dispute, which is scheduled to take place on February 24th, could hit a number of high-profile construction projects underway across the country.

    The general secretary of the Technical Engineering and Electrical Union (TEEU), Eamon Devoy said that pickets would also be placed on power plants where contractors are in place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Dont have to worry about a SHTF scenario for some they create their own

    http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/news/breaking-major-incident-at-belfast-odyssey-arena-concert#.UvQDkij-G5A.facebook

    "Horrendous scenes" as estimated 60 young people taken ill at Belfast Odyssey Arena Hardwell gig


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Wind Warning for Wexford, Galway, Clare, Cork, Kerry, Limerick and Waterford
    Stormy weather will develop tomorrow, Wednesday, on the south and southwest coast as westerly winds reach mean speeds of 70km/h to 80km/h with gusts to 130km/h.

    Issued:Tuesday 11 February 2014 11:00
    Valid:Wednesday 12 February 2014 09:00 to Wednesday 12 February 2014 18:00

    http://www.met.ie/nationalwarnings/default.asp


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    From Twitter
    Dublin City Council ‏@DubCityCouncil 5h
    It will be a cold one tonight. @DubCityCouncil will treat key roads overnight. To see routes & more: http://bit.ly/NyK1r8


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    UPDATE _ Wednesday 12 February 2014 _ 1230h
    ____________________________________________

    Just to confirm that extreme winds have developed in west Munster and are expected to spread as per the earlier forecast towards Galway, the inland south and rest of Munster, and most of Leinster, over the next three hours. Once these winds arrive, with gusts in the 130-160 km/hr range, they will probably last for 3-5 hours before gradually returning to more moderate although still quite active levels 50-80 km/hr by midnight or so.

    Any showers in this wind flow will be extremely squally with hail. However the period of extreme winds is likely to be mostly dry with scudding low cloud and some breaks.

    Stay safe and avoid any sort of travel once this hits, if you still have a bit of time (in the Dublin region you still have three or four hours) secure all loose items in your gardens and check your parking arrangements vs trees or vulnerable small structures located upwind (to the west). These severe gales will come in from about due west. If you have to drive, expect violent cross-winds and erratic behaviour of other vehicles especially high-sided ones.

    See you on the storm thread probably.
    From the weather forum http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=88965316&postcount=3219


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    On a positive note, it's great weather for flying a kite!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭Danpad


    The missiz had to reverse down a road to avoid an untethered trampoline which seemed to take on a life of its own as it was blown over a garden wall and into the road. Keep your eyes peeled for the unexpected.


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Fries-With-That


    Terrible winds and rain across North Tipperary today, slates and chimney pots down all over Nenagh, power out in Kilurane, Borrisokane and Ardcroney and many areas in between.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    In Clare, a flood and storm warning has been issued in advance of the severe weather conditions expected over the next 48 hours. The county council said that given the high tides, projected high rainfall and strong gale to storm force winds there is significant risk of river, coastal and tidal flooding.
    The council has also warned of potential travel disruption on the county’s roads as a result of trees falling that have already been already compromised by yesterday’s storm.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/80000-esb-power-1314732-Feb2014/?utm_source=twitter_self


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    25K houses heading into 4 nights no power in winter
    I think it was 200,000 on the 12th
    and last night 60-80K houses

    Pretty big figures for power loss in recent memory most be the biggest/longest outage.


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