Airsoft with public transport?

Before I get to the main ask of the thread, a quick question: I have the day to myself and a Dublin Rambler ticket. Is there any walk-in stores I can get to today to window-shop & do some equipment pricing?

Now, the big question: What experience have you guys had with using public transport to get to/from sites, if any? Would it/has it created problems?

gerrowadat

Deleted User wrote: »

Before I get to the main ask of the thread, a quick question: I have the day to myself and a Dublin Rambler ticket. Is there any walk-in stores I can get to today to window-shop & do some equipment pricing?

Now, the big question: What experience have you guys had with using public transport to get to/from sites, if any? Would it/has it created problems?

Ask is not a noun.

On your other questions, you might be able to get to StikeArms in airside, that's the only one I can think of.

Once you're not all decked out in camo and have a good gun bag you should be grand on buses etc. A lot of sites will turn you away if you walk up without your kit covered anyway.

Airside!? I'm in Boroimhe! Jeez, an afternoon pursuit becomes a lunchtime jaunt :S

Unsinnig

GoTactical is still open, opposite the Bray DART station.

Faolchu

sg airsoft in ballybough/fairview/ get a bus from swords towards teh city and get off there near fagans in Dromcondra and walk back along the richmond road toward fairview, near the Maxol and it'll be in a small industrail estate on the left side of the road, theres a sign on the wall outside.

strike arms are in airside near Ford/Opel, near the lifeboat place,

you may also be able to get a bus out near MIA in blanch, not to sure about that though

Inari

You can get the bus out to Hobby Airsoft as well, as I so often do (I don't drive, so public transport or the grace of my missus is how I get to work ). The 68 bus leaves from town and goes through south circular road, through Clondalkin - so wherever is handy for you to get on.

The last stop leaves you across from the Factory Cafe, and it's just a 5 minute walk from there.

Besides GoTac and StrikeArms, I can't think of any other public transport friendly stores

Ross_Mahon

I usually get a bus as close to the area as possible and walk the rest, bit of exploring is great.

Shidosha

As Faolchu mentioned SG Airsoft should be relatively easy to get to for anyone, there's any number of buses that go out through Fairview or along the Drumcondra road, and they're only a few minutes walk from those routes. They're across from the cash and carry on Richmond Road.

SNAKEDOC

the luas stops beside tallaght cqb and vacant is right by the bus stop in naas at the ball just of the m7.

Arcto

Once you're not all decked out in camo

Unless you are referring to Irish DPM I don't see the problem with that.

Zomg Okay

Arcto wrote: »

Unless you are referring to Irish DPM I don't see the problem with that.

Regardless of what camo it is, you're going to attract unwanted attention if you're walking through a city in it. Easier to just wear something more... normal, and change when you get to the site.

SNAKEDOC

Zomg Okay wrote: »

Regardless of what camo it is, you're going to attract unwanted attention if you're walking through a city in it. Easier to just wear something more... normal, and change when you get to the site.

i don't mean to disagree with your statement zomg but i wear my camo gear when leaving my house, bearing in mind i drive to the site but on occasion i stop at the shop to get food or drinks to bring and sometimes i do stop in a little town beore reaching dublin where thee are a lot of people, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing so unless as was pointed out you do so in irish dpm, (which some people still do, lets not debate that we all agree its wrong) that been said i don't carry my aeg in with me. you may draw attention but to what the fact your wearing camo, so what its oly clothing it isn,t goin to spark street riots or panic little old ladys. when it comes to it a bit of cop on and using the goo between your ears goes a long way. i wear US urban camo mostly and i have had only one person say anything to me and it was a teenage boy asking where i was going airsofting. to anybody with the logistical problem of having to use public transport, a standard loadout of camo vest and drop leg holster aeg and pistol it is very simple. wear the camo bag the aeg vest holster and pistol carry bag to venue enjoy airsofting and repeat in reverse. problem solved

Lemming

SNAKEDOC wrote: »

i don't mean to disagree with your statement zomg but i wear my camo gear when leaving my house, bearing in mind i drive to the site but on occasion i stop at the shop to get food or drinks to bring and sometimes i do stop in a little town beore reaching dublin where thee are a lot of people, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing so unless as was pointed out you do so in irish dpm, (which some people still do, lets not debate that we all agree its wrong) that been said i don't carry my aeg in with me. you may draw attention but to what the fact your wearing camo, so what its oly clothing it isn,t goin to spark street riots or panic little old ladys. when it comes to it a bit of cop on and using the goo between your ears goes a long way. i wear US urban camo mostly and i have had only one person say anything to me and it was a teenage boy asking where i was going airsofting. to anybody with the logistical problem of having to use public transport, a standard loadout of camo vest and drop leg holster aeg and pistol it is very simple. wear the camo bag the aeg vest holster and pistol carry bag to venue enjoy airsofting and repeat in reverse. problem solved

SnakeDoc ... I would like to draw your attention to the below bit; bold is my emphasis

Zomg Okay wrote: »

Regardless of what camo it is, you're going to attract unwanted attention if you're walking through a city in it. Easier to just wear something more... normal, and change when you get to the site.

That is what is being referred to. There is a world of difference between hopping out of ones car however briefly to wandering through town carrying gunbags bedecked in camo clothing. This point should be as clear as day and I don't understand why people cannot recognise it.

SNAKEDOC

i would still hold my point that that been the case i would say no harm if the strict letter of the law is concerned so what if you walk around with a bag and wearing camo. there is a lot worse things you could be carrrying and as the law is there is nothing wrong with carrying airsoft toys in a bag and walking down the street. I have to stress that this idea of airsofters having to please everyone to air on the side of caution is bull. wear what you like when you like as long as there is no guns on show so carry a bag. if any citizen has an issue screw them nothing illegal about it. you may argue that its just not the appropriate thing to do. well boo hoo. the arguing factor is the guns keep them in a bag and thats the end of it. it doesn't mater if you run the city marathon with the gun bag and all as long as its covered it satisfies the law. the camo gear as before can be worn again anywhere you want its just clothes.

Witcher

Nobody is doubting the legality of it:rolleyes:

The problem is you might attract attention from the less law abiding sectors of society by wearing it and carrying gun bags.

Hande hoche!

Additionally is your camo gear not filthy after a skirmish? Purely from the point of keeping your car cleaning wearing it back isn't a great idea.

Thanks for the replies everyone, ended up having an interesting browse in GoTac yesterday.

As for wearing stuff out & about, I'd just bag *everything* and change onsite. Less hassle, especially if you can fit all in a generic non specialist bag.

SNAKEDOC

do elaborate, what repercussions would less law abiding citizens seeing airsofters in camo on the streets have. I'm just curious, sure criminal elements already use airsoft for illegal activity ie using aeg's in the committing of a crime. how many hold ups where a pistol or what not was used was actually an airsoft toy i would say a large percent.

Witcher

SNAKEDOC wrote: »

do elaborate, what repercussions would less law abiding citizens seeing airsofters in camo on the streets have.

Being mugged maybe? Just because they may already have them doesn't mean you should be complacent with them.

Inari

There is no secret that when you are carrying lots of bags, or look a little different, or even do anything different, you attract unwanted attention to yourself. There is no law governing what you wear (except public decency laws) - but that doesn't mean you wouldn't get grief for dressing up like a Super Hero.

It's the same for Airsoft. There is no law against wearing your combat gear, but not wearing it is certainly a path of lesser resistance, and since most of us airsofters prefer that, hence we normally recommend it.

Puding

It's the same for Airsoft. There is no law against wearing your combat gear, but not wearing it is certainly a path of lesser resistance, and since most of us airsofters prefer that, hence we normally recommend it.

1+

just because you can do something does not mean you should do something

SNAKEDOC

i would look upon that the other way. i would wear the camo because if i'm carrying a gun bag most people can spot it as a gun bag and hence drawing attention to oneself so by wearing the camo i have drawn the attention intentionally and look that bit more difficult to approach than an ordanary joe soap carrying an oversized bag. a mugger would not target a guy walking down the street in camo out of pure survival, he doesn't know what or who he is so wearing the camo could actually go toward helping you. and also the public decency laws i think that kinda goes for lads showing their willies to old ladies and not dressing in some camo. alas i'm close to dublin don't know what its like down in cork;)

gerrowadat

SNAKEDOC wrote: »

i would look upon that the other way. i would wear the camo because if i'm carrying a gun bag most people can spot it as a gun bag and hence drawing attention to oneself so by wearing the camo i have drawn the attention intentionally and look that bit more difficult to approach than an ordanary joe soap carrying an oversized bag. a mugger would not target a guy walking down the street in camo out of pure survival, he doesn't know what or who he is so wearing the camo could actually go toward helping you. and also the public decency laws i think that kinda goes for lads showing their willies to old ladies and not dressing in some camo. alas i'm close to dublin don't know what its like down in cork;)

So wait, you're going to wear camo in public and walk around carrying a gun-shaped bag because it makes you look hard? You carry a knife, too? Maybe sorta stab it into the air the odd time so people know not to mess with you?

The best way of not getting hassled is not standing out.

Stone.cold

SNAKEDOC wrote: »

i would look upon that the other way. i would wear the camo because if i'm carrying a gun bag most people can spot it as a gun bag and hence drawing attention to oneself so by wearing the camo i have drawn the attention intentionally and look that bit more difficult to approach than an ordanary joe soap carrying an oversized bag. a mugger would not target a guy walking down the street in camo out of pure survival, he doesn't know what or who he is so wearing the camo could actually go toward helping you. and also the public decency laws i think that kinda goes for lads showing their willies to old ladies and not dressing in some camo. alas i'm close to dublin don't know what its like down in cork;)

I have heard it all now, speaking as someone from Dublin and worked in some of the roughest areas of Dublin, i can tell ya your average mugger is so strung out or high that it doesnt matter what your wearing if he wants your oversized back he will try take it, and if ure wearing head to toe camo and said mugger thinks oh he must be special forces he will just use a bigger needle to stab you with

SNAKEDOC

i too have lived and worked in dublin and one of the roughest areas too. i doo believe that the first indoor airsoft site was in this very area and manies a person got public transport and walked too and from this site wearing their camo and carrying their gear and thank god they all managed to get past the needle wielding muggers waiting in the wigs for them.

Stone.cold

SNAKEDOC wrote: »

i too have lived and worked in dublin and one of the roughest areas too. i doo believe that the first indoor airsoft site was in this very area and manies a person got public transport and walked too and from this site wearing their camo and carrying their gear and thank god they all managed to get past the needle wielding muggers waiting in the wigs for them.

Firstly if u think the Belgard road is one of the roughest places in Dublin then I'm sorry you don't know Dublin, secondly the point i was making was you said "by wearing me camo they don't know what to think so they stay away" and what i said was it wouldn't matter if you were head to toe in camo or decked out in a full chain-mail suit of armour, if they want your bag they will try take it, muggers are not to bother if ure special forces or special needs.

moggser

SNAKEDOC wrote: »

i would look upon that the other way. i would wear the camo because if i'm carrying a gun bag most people can spot it as a gun bag and hence drawing attention to oneself so by wearing the camo i have drawn the attention intentionally and look that bit more difficult to approach than an ordanary joe soap carrying an oversized bag. a mugger would not target a guy walking down the street in camo out of pure survival, he doesn't know what or who he is so wearing the camo could actually go toward helping you. and also the public decency laws i think that kinda goes for lads showing their willies to old ladies and not dressing in some camo. alas i'm close to dublin don't know what its like down in cork;)

under that logic it would be easy for me to bang linsday lohan

Airsoft Reloded

moggser wrote: »

under that logic it would be easy for me to bang linsday lohan

You could have her if you wanted Moggser, with a face like that!

Jsmurff

Zomg Okay wrote: »

Regardless of what camo it is, you're going to attract unwanted attention if you're walking through a city in it. Easier to just wear something more... normal, and change when you get to the site.

I wear camo all the time and nobody gives a flying fiddlers!
And being turned away from a sight for wearing camo is retarded no?

Also got a glance of public decency laws or something along those lines ?????? Daurds dont give a flying fiddlers either so long as its not Irish DPM and your not dressed like the IRA and obviously, said the same Garda, dont walk around with a vest filled with nags and grenades and such

I think there is a lot of over reacting towards wearing camo in public as I said before nobody is bothered enough to walk up to you and ask "What the hell are you wearing that for?!?! WTF wrong with yo!?!?!?!?" :rolleyes:

se conman

I have never gotten anything but smiles haven turned up on a few ocassions to sites in full camo driving an ex army truck , I think it is more about how you act and re-act rather than what you wear and carry.

Airsoft Reloded

Stone.cold wrote: »

Firstly if u think the Belgard road is one of the roughest places in Dublin then I'm sorry you don't know Dublin

He means Darndale (beside Coolock) Trev (The Warehouse).

Mind you I like to think that Darndale isn't exactly Sheriffer

Bobby Baccala

Airsoft Reloded wrote: »

He means Darndale (beside Coolock) Trev (The Warehouse).

Mind you I like to think that Darndale isn't exactly Sheriffer

Yeah but Darndale is still fúckin horrible.

Airsoft Reloded

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Yeah but Darndale is still fúckin horrible.

Aahhh, sure it's not that bad when your from there. We don't rob from our own (only those on a higher tax bracket and in a more expensive area code).

Anthony I see what your saying dude, I'm always walking around in camo (well the trousers and a "military looking" jacket). Most people just assume I'm Polish and say cześć to me! A lot of people wear camo because it looks good, to say that it could cause a problem is arguing for aguing's sake because it can't (just be sure to leave the leg holster at home).

Inari

Just for the record, I was the one that mentioned public decency laws and it was to say that the only laws governing what you wear are public decency (i.e. you have to wear something), and a couple of other ones (they don't like you imitating emergency services workers either). I thought it was clear, but since there were a couple of queries on it.

It really is simple though - path of least resistance; dress in civvies, carry your gear packed away properly, and change on site. It just helps you to blend in, and cuts down on hassle. At least I believe so.

Odds are you won't get any additional hassle for being in camouflage gear, but it's a fine line. In work I heard of a lad arriving to a site with an AK47 AEG slung across his shoulder that he had carried on the bus. As is. Literally. We can all agree that it should have been packed away properly. Wearing camouflage just draws a bit more attention to yourself, and it is a fine line from wearing tac gear (vests, belt rigs etc).

The gist of it is be a responsible person. Take reasonable measures to ensure you are a good ambassador of the sport and you're sorted.

SNAKEDOC

i just had a thought thank god it didn't hurt. but when airsoft shops supply aeg's or whatever is there a legal speil given out to the customer. when i bought my first aeg in 2007 i got no such thing just a black bag and my money snapped out of my hand. these days buying anything the question is asked do you play and i suppose if someone says yes then they are deemed to be ok but on the topic of people doing stupid stuff like mr ak47 on the number 47 maybe more awareness should be focused on the public players and on buyers by way of the store keeper

Jsmurff

might be considered off topic but one thing I love about wearing camo in public is little kids pointing out to their single mothers "Look Mummy Army Man ARMY MAN!!!!"

Tis a great conversation starter and after nearly six years of wearing the stuff I have never ever had hassle

TheDoc

The term "stop digging" comes to mind with old SnakeDoc there,

And Smurf,

• Wearing camo pretending to be in the army
• Creepin on single mothers

Never thought of that, I'd say you need to wear wellies around the ladies, you dawg!

Nuke1973

Inari wrote: »

Just for the record, I was the one that mentioned public decency laws and it was to say that the only laws governing what you wear are public decency (i.e. you have to wear something), and a couple of other ones (they don't like you imitating emergency services workers either). I thought it was clear, but since there were a couple of queries on it.

It really is simple though - path of least resistance; dress in civvies, carry your gear packed away properly, and change on site. It just helps you to blend in, and cuts down on hassle. At least I believe so.

Odds are you won't get any additional hassle for being in camouflage gear, but it's a fine line. In work I heard of a lad arriving to a site with an AK47 AEG slung across his shoulder that he had carried on the bus. As is. Literally. We can all agree that it should have been packed away properly. Wearing camouflage just draws a bit more attention to yourself, and it is a fine line from wearing tac gear (vests, belt rigs etc).

The gist of it is be a responsible person. Take reasonable measures to ensure you are a good ambassador of the sport and you're sorted.

As a complete aside from this - the public decency laws in this country do not force you to wear any clothes. They just force you to dress so as to have no intent to offend.

You can go naked as long as you intend no offence by doing so - it is up to the DPP to prove that your intent was otherwise.

Having said that it is an offence not to obey an instruction from a member of the GS(Put some clothes on) and also it's a tad cold

coolagad

if you saw a grown man wearing his karate gear after practice and walking around the local spar you'd think he was either looking for trouble or a complete fruitcake.

Same with wearing full camo gear, holsters etc in public. quick way to get unwanted attention either from yobs, cops or joe duffy. Its banned in a lot of countries for frivolous reasons so dont give our nanny state any reason to do so in Ireland.

Common sense really

Jsmurff

coolagad wrote: »

if you saw a grown man wearing his karate gear after practice and walking around the local spar you'd think he was either looking for trouble or a complete fruitcake.

Same with wearing full camo gear, holsters etc in public. quick way to get unwanted attention either from yobs, cops or joe duffy. Its banned in a lot of countries for frivolous reasons so dont give our nanny state any reason to do so in Ireland.

Common sense really

well the guy wearing the karate su
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