Afghan woman offered jail release if she will marry rapist...

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065301/Afghan-woman-jailed-raped-cousins-husband-offered-release-marries-attacker.html

That'll make for an interesting 'how I met your mother' conversation....

Saila

let me guess he was a police chief

stoeger

And we think we live in a f@%k up country

biko

Unfortunately rape was/is often a way to get married there.

Now, if she marries her attacker she has a chance to restore her honour and to give her child a family.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/311774.stm

Egyptian ministers have voted to repeal a controversial law which exempts a rapist from punishment if he marries his victim.
Rape victims sometimes agree to wed their attackers because they do not want to disgrace their families.
But the custom has been strongly criticised by religious leaders and women's activists.

In many Middle Eastern countries, a woman who loses her virginity out of wedlock brings shame to her family, even if she has been raped.
By marrying her attacker, the woman at least gets a certificate of marriage although it is often followed by divorce.

Solnskaya

Ya gotta love the jundies, forward thinking, progressive, inclusive and lovable. None of the above apply. Backward, bigoted and in love with a black rock? Maybeee.

Logical Fallacy

Some stuff that is carried out at a national level in certain countries makes me assume that everyone there is dribbling on windows and trying to **** door knobs.

Irish Guitarist

The baby is serving a jail sentence too.

Capt'n Midnight

biko wrote: »

Unfortunately rape was/is often a way to get married there.

By marrying her attacker, the woman at least gets a certificate of marriage although it is often followed by divorce.

would she get to keep half his assets too ?

Son Of A Vidic

stoeger wrote: »

And we think we live in a f@%k up country

Think?

Fromthetrees

Ahh, Islam, the religion of peace......:rolleyes:

carfiosaoorl

How ****ed up can you get. Its hard to believe that **** like this goes on. It makes me feel ashamed for moaning about trivial things.

MyKeyG

I'm glad all those lives were lost and billions spent turning Afghanistan into a liberal fair country.

El Guapo!

Fúcking idiots.

woodoo

Fromthetrees wrote: »

Ahh, Islam, the religion of peace......:rolleyes:

Its a farce of a religion if you ask me.

El Guapo!

They're all fúcking backwards in that part of the world. An I don't care if people think it's racism or whatever but they need to be saved from themselves and taught common sense.
Some people say it's their beliefs and we shouldn't interfere, but if their beliefs are fúcking retarded then something has to be done.

AgileMyth

woodoo wrote: »

Its a farce of a religion if you ask me.

Religion is a farce if you ask me.

El Guapo!

AgileMyth wrote: »

Religion is a farce if you ask me.

That may be true but religion for the most part seems to keep the majority of believers on the straight and narrow, whereas the islamic religion is fúcked up at the best of times.

Dudess

Bet plenty of Muslims would condemn this - you only hear about the bad ones though.

Abi

This line alone:

Rape victims sometimes agree to wed their attackers because they do not want to disgrace their families.

/Walks out of thread

starbelgrade

Dean09 wrote: »

They're all fúcking backwards in that part of the world. An I don't care if people think it's racism or whatever but they need to be saved from themselves and taught common sense.
Some people say it's their beliefs and we shouldn't interfere, but if their beliefs are fúcking retarded then something has to be done.

In Ireland, the Catholic Church reigned over years of terror & sexual abuse of children & then covered it up.

Then they got the government to protect them by limiting the amount of compensation they had to pay to it's abuse victims. And these days, they are still allowed to run the majority of schools in the country.

Now, while what happens in other parts of the world might be "fucking backwards & retarded", people who live in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones.

ejmaztec

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

would she get to keep half his assets too ?

As she would probably be one of his personal assets, I doubt it.:(

Norwayviking

Taliyah Mealy Sunstroke wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065301/Afghan-woman-jailed-raped-cousins-husband-offered-release-marries-attacker.html

That'll make for an interesting 'how I met your mother' conversation....

No wonder the rape statistics are so high in Norway.:mad:
They probably think they can rape them and then marry them.:eek:

http://thenewamerican.com/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/7706-qnon-westernq-men-dominate-sex-crimes-in-norway

Dudess

starbelgrade wrote: »

Dean09 wrote: »

They're all fúcking backwards in that part of the world. An I don't care if people think it's racism or whatever but they need to be saved from themselves and taught common sense.
Some people say it's their beliefs and we shouldn't interfere, but if their beliefs are fúcking retarded then something has to be done.

In Ireland, the Catholic Church reigned over years of terror & sexual abuse of children & then covered it up.

Then they got the government to protect them by limiting the amount of compensation they had to pay to it's abuse victims. And these days, they are still allowed to run the majority of schools in the country.

Now, while what happens in other parts of the world might be "f[SIZE="2"]uc[/SIZE]king backwards & retarded", people who live in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones.

Nah Star, I don't think that means we don't have the right, as compassionate individuals - never mind our nationality, to be highly critical of such atrocities. We're not responsible anyway for what happened here, and church-run schools aren't exactly on the same level of this craziness.
I agree though that they're not all backward, nor is Islam all like this - comments like that are completely pointless.

Dudess

Norwayviking wrote: »

Taliyah Mealy Sunstroke wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065301/Afghan-woman-jailed-raped-cousins-husband-offered-release-marries-attacker.html

That'll make for an interesting 'how I met your mother' conversation....

No wonder the rape statistics are so high in Norway.:mad:
They probably think they can rape them and then marry them.:eek:

http://thenewamerican.com/world-mainmenu-26/europe-mainmenu-35/7706-qnon-westernq-men-dominate-sex-crimes-in-norway

Seeing as Norway isn't Afghanistan, they probably don't.

MIN2511

'Law is un-Islamic'

In January, a senior Egyptian Sheikh, the Mufti of Egypt, declared such marriages were against Islam and that any marriage between a rapist and his victim was "null and void".

He said the legislation permitting the practice had been adopted during the colonial period for the convenience of foreigners living in Egypt.

In December, prosecutors freed three rape suspects after one of them offered to marry the victim and she accepted, prompting outrage among women's groups.

Under Egyptian law, a rapist may be executed. On Sunday a 27-year-old man was sentenced to death for kidnapping and raping a three-year-old girl.

What happens to the 3yo?

Latchy

Dean09 wrote: »

That may be true but religion for the most part seems to keep the majority of believers on the straight and narrow, whereas the islamic religion is fúcked up at the best of times.

Dudess wrote: »

Nah Star, I don't think that means we don't have the right, as compassionate individuals - never mind our nationality, to be highly critical of such atrocities. We're not responsible anyway for what happened here, and church-run schools aren't exactly on the same level of this craziness.
I agree though that they're not all backward, nor is Islam all like this - comments like that are completely pointless.

I think it was the "****ing backwards & retarded" quote of the previous poster that was the ire of Star's post as much as any comparison to church run schools but one can only imagine a world in were Islam rules which would be bleak , oppressive , dark and and miserable .

Norwayviking

Dudess wrote: »

Seeing as Norway isn't Afghanistan, they probably don't.

Quote from article
One of the victims that was interview

A reporter for the station interviewed a Norwegian girl who suffered a brutal rape at the foul hands of a Pakistani immigrant. He told her his religion instructed him to violate her. According to the girl:
"He said, that he had the right to do exactly as he wanted to a woman."
[Reporter] Why?
"Because that is how it was in his religion. Women did not have rights or opinions[;] he was in charge."

I dont think they really care where they are:mad:

Freddie59

Fromthetrees wrote: »

Ahh, Islam, the religion of peace......:rolleyes:

Wait for the apologists. It'll be interesting to see their reaction to THIS.

Bullseye1

Seems like a win win for everyone but the woman. But sure they don't matter in these countries. Wonder what would happen if it were a tourist non Muslim woman raped who happened to be married. Who she have to convert, divorce her husband and marry her rapist?

Freddie59

Dudess wrote: »

Bet plenty of Muslims would condemn this - you only hear about the bad ones though.

Hmmm. But I don't see the Muslim/Islam supporters rushing on here to condemn it though. And in fairness 'bad' doesn't even BEGIN to describe this act of savagery.

Dudess

Freddie59 wrote: »

Fromthetrees wrote: »

Ahh, Islam, the religion of peace......:rolleyes:

Wait for the apologists. It'll be interesting to see their reaction to THIS.

Simple really Fred. Reprehensible as this is, it simply isn't representative of all Islam.

There are moderate Muslims who get abuse since 9/11 and that's wrong too.

Freddie59

starbelgrade wrote: »

In Ireland, the Catholic Church reigned over years of terror & sexual abuse of children & then covered it up.

Then they got the government to protect them by limiting the amount of compensation they had to pay to it's abuse victims. And these days, they are still allowed to run the majority of schools in the country.

Now, while what happens in other parts of the world might be "fucking backwards & retarded", people who live in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones.

Hard to credit you actually posted that - and are comparing the two. This woman was raped, then jailed for being raped, and then offered a 'deal' to release her if she married her rapist. The Catholic Church pales in comparison.

Bullseye1

They always condemn these? What are you talking about

Dudess

Freddie59 wrote: »

Dudess wrote: »

Bet plenty of Muslims would condemn this - you only hear about the bad ones though.

Hmmm. But I don't see the Muslim/Islam supporters rushing on here to condemn it though. And in fairness 'bad' doesn't even BEGIN to describe this act of savagery.

Not being a fan of all Muslims being pigeonholed as fanatics is not the same as being an Islam supporter - and you can be sure such people would certainly condemn this.

Freddie59

Dudess wrote: »

Simple really Fred. Reprehensible as this is, it simply isn't representative of all Islam.

There are moderate Muslims who get abuse since 9/11 and that's wrong too.

D, I'm very surprised at that reply. This savagery is beyond belief. Do you condemn it unequivocally?

Latchy

Norwayviking wrote: »

I dont think they really care where they are:mad:

A rape is a rape regardless of which country it's carried out in and it's ****ing gallling and mad that this seems lost on these ''westernised '' Packistanis :mad:

AgileMyth

Dean09 wrote: »

That may be true but religion for the most part seems to keep the majority of believers on the straight and narrow, whereas the islamic religion is fúcked up at the best of times.

The catholic church is a fairly twisted organisation itself. Every religion has bad people associated with it. It just happens that the worlds Islamic community is very large in numbers. Being somewhat removed from their communities we tend to hear only of the extreme cases.

Bullseye1

We do tend to hear quite a lot about women who are rapped being threaded appallingly in these countries. This is not an isolated case. And it should be reported everytime it happens.

Dudess

Freddie59 wrote: »

Dudess wrote: »

Simple really Fred. Reprehensible as this is, it simply isn't representative of all Islam.

There are moderate Muslims who get abuse since 9/11 and that's wrong too.

D, I'm very surprised at that reply. This savagery is beyond belief. Do you condemn it unequivocally?

Of course I do - it's utterly depraved. But it's incorrect to say Islam is like this across the board and by that token all Muslims would endorse it. Moderate Muslims find it vile too - I personally know some who do.

Saul Goodman

Taliyah Mealy Sunstroke wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065301/Afghan-woman-jailed-raped-cousins-husband-offered-release-marries-attacker.html

That'll make for an interesting 'how I met your mother' conversation....

wouldnt take any notice of a country where men can have as many wives they wish and treat wimmins like stray dogs

Abi

Freddie59 wrote: »

D, I'm very surprised at that reply. This savagery is beyond belief. Do you condemn it unequivocally?

Actually, I agree with her. My first thought was 'madness', and I didn't want to hear any more of it -ignorance on my own part.

You couldn't possibly tar an entire religion with the same brush. While aspects of the religion is just unfathomable to us, there are many within the religion that don't feel it's right either.

Your disapproval of her comment is highly exaggerated in my opinion, and you're not really seeing what she is saying to you. They don't all believe that this is fair, and have their objections to this.

Freddie59

AgileMyth wrote: »

The catholic church is a fairly twisted organisation itself. Every religion has bad people associated with it. It just happens that the worlds Islamic community is very large in numbers. Being somewhat removed from their communities we tend to hear only of the extreme cases.

This is the 21st Century. There are no excuses. You start by condemning the Catholic Church and then trying to rationalise what happened to this lady by quoting it as 'an extreme case'. Nice.

Freddie59

Abi wrote: »

Actually, I agree with her. My first thought was 'madness', and I didn't want to hear any more of it -ignorance on my own part.

You couldn't possibly tar an entire religion with the same brush. While aspects of the religion is just unfathomable to us, there are many within the religion that don't feel it's right either.

Your disapproval of her comment is highly exaggerated in my opinion, and you're not really seeing what she is saying to you. They don't all believe that this is fair, and have their objections to this.

I'll ask you the same then. Do you condemn this unequivocally?

Dudess

Freddie59 wrote: »

Abi wrote: »

Actually, I agree with her. My first thought was 'madness', and I didn't want to hear any more of it -ignorance on my own part.

You couldn't possibly tar an entire religion with the same brush. While aspects of the religion is just unfathomable to us, there are many within the religion that don't feel it's right either.

Your disapproval of her comment is highly exaggerated in my opinion, and you're not really seeing what she is saying to you. They don't all believe that this is fair, and have their objections to this.

I'll ask you the same then. Do you condemn this unequivocally?

Of course she does - she said it a few times. Only a complete nutter would condone it. I don't understand how you equate "Not all Muslims agree with this" to approval of it. If anything, Muslims themselves condemning it just further reinforces how horrific it is.

Freddie59

Dudess wrote: »

Of course I do - it's utterly depraved. But it's incorrect to say Islam is like this across the board and by that token all Muslims would endorse it. Moderate Muslims find it vile too - I personally know some who do.

No doubt. I wouldn't expect any less. But, in reality, there are so many of these cases now beginning to surface (and all purportedly based on the "religion" that is Islam) that it will be hard to stem the tide. It is a "religion" that belongs in the Middle Ages - not the 21st Century.

Abi

Freddie59 wrote: »

I'll ask you the same then. Do you condemn this unequivocally?

I don't mean to be rude, but have you actually read anything myself or Dudess said? If you did I'm sure you would know our standing on this.

Abi

Freddie59 wrote: »

No doubt. I wouldn't expect any less. But, in reality, there are so many of these cases now beginning to surface (and all purportedly based on the "religion" that is Islam) that it will be hard to stem the tide. It is a "religion" that belongs in the Middle Ages - not the 21st Century.

That is just an unfathomably blinkered view, and it I actually don't know how to follow up from it. All I have is a visual of a very tarry brush.

MagicSean

Muslim laws are so ****ed up. Anyone else remember the outcry when the gardai made the rape joke about the hippy? Kind of puts stupid things like that in perspective. It's difficult to believe there are such backward countries out there.

Freddie59

Abi wrote: »

That is just an unfathomably blinkered view, and it I actually don't know how to follow up from it. All I have is a visual of a very tarry brush.

From YOUR perspective.

Shattered Dreamer

I agreed we can't tarnish every Muslim with the same brush but what do you expect from people who follow a believe system written in the Middle Ages, one of the most violent times in human history. But then again Christians aren't much better.

Pdfile

its o nthe daily mail...


Lies op, lies.