Paypal - Limerick or Dundalk

1huge1

I think this warrants its own thread!

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/commercialproperty/2011/1123/1224307994912.html
PayPal to create 1,000 jobs in Dundalk or Limerick

GLOBAL ONLINE payments giant PayPal is the firm behind the plan to create around 1,000 jobs in either Dundalk or Limerick.

The company is assessing available office buildings in both centres before deciding where to locate the new enterprise.

PayPal has ruled out the former Quinn Direct office block in Navan because of the absence of a large skilled workforce in the town and its proximity to Blanchardstown where the company and its parent eBay already employ around 1,600 people.

PayPal is the global leader in online payment solutions. It was founded in 1998 and has 123 million customers in 103 markets worldwide.

Its Blanchardstown office, which serves as the European headquarters, will not be affected by the opening of a further office in either Dundalk or Limerick. The company has several options for buildings in both centres. The final decision is expected to be determined by the availability of a skilled workforce to roll out the new operation.

The buildings being considered in Limerick include the former Dell plant at Raheen which once housed 1,900 workers.

Politicians from all parties are continuing to canvass for the PayPal call centre to be located in their constituencies. Though Limerick has been designated a priority region for investment, the IDA has only managed to secure 300 new jobs for the area over the past year.

Meanwhile, Hewlett-Packard is shortly to decide whether to locate a new office block of 9,290sq m (100,000sq ft) on part of its site at Ballybrit in Galway or on the opposite side of the racecourse in the IDA park at Parkmore where two other software companies, SAP and Fidelity, are also based.

HP plans to lease the building from one of a number of developers pitching to design and build it. The American company has designated its Galway software centre as a global centre of competency for cloud computing. Its property adviser is Paddy Conlon of CBRE

If Noonan gets this for Limerick he will always be loved in this city.

Come on limerick!

the drifter

****...please be limerick please be limerick please be limerick...

and i already have a job....i just want my city back to life again...

jc84

the drifter wrote: »

****...please be limerick please be limerick please be limerick...

and i already have a job....i just want my city back to life again...

I hope it's limerick too, something like this is badly need for the area

munstergirl

Limerick + midwest region could fill these jobs in a week, pay pal could be up and running before christmas.
Everyone who comes to limerick says what a friendly place it is.

LB6

Let it be Limerick - job would only be across the road - no petrol costs!

Simon Adebisi

5 minutes from me. Would the fact i have an account help me in the interview in any way?

L.T.P.

Hopefully Michael Noonan can exert a bit of influence for his home city!

Squall19

Limerick really really needs this.

Would be unreal for the county and city.

Come on Noonan.

The Snipe

Come on Noonan! Get it down here for once! If you don't I sware I will.. Show you my half naked body

steveon

Love Paypal have used it right since the beginning great service and would love it to come to Limerick...heres hoping.

Poxyshamrock

Why not send the Limerick TDs for Fine Gael/Labour an email and let them know what they have to do!

Michael Noonan
minister@finance.gov.ie

Jan O'Sullivan
jan.osullivan@oireachtas.ie

Kieran O'Donnell
kieran.odonnell@oireachtas.ie

seachto7

Paypal = multilingual call centre = hot foreign women.......

Kess73

XiledSniper wrote: »

Come on Noonan! Get it down here for once! If you don't I sware I will.. Show you my half naked body

Make sure you buy and use a weight bench and some weights before you carry out that threat.:p

thesimpsons

all I want for Christmas is ................ P A Y P A L

liammur

Willie O Dea would still go down as the city's greatest ever politician tho. Why?

He got my neighbour a new toilet seat, and got a leak in tom's shed fixed.

philstar

in limerick - you could be stabbed

in dundalk - you could be knee-capped

decisions decisions

h3000

philstar wrote: »

in limerick - you could be stabbed

in dundalk - you could be knee-capped

decisions decisions

:rolleyes:
Why bother post crap like that?

Clareman

If you have a problem with a post, report it, don't quote it.

h3000

Clareman wrote: »

If you have a problem with a post, report it, don't quote it.

Fair enough. Stuff like that just gets a bit old.

meoklmrk91

Fingers crossed, desperately what Limerick needs to boost the local economy. The place has been stuck in a depression since the Dell shut down. Come on Noonan, we need this!

liammur

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Fingers crossed, desperately what Limerick needs to boost the local economy. The place has been stuck in a depression since the Dell shut down. Come on Noonan, we need this!

Correct, the spend from these employees would benefit pubs/shops/restaurants, and further down the road cars/housing/schools etc. This is what Limerick has lacked for the last 15 years, and we have to listen to FF politicians blaming the regions woes on the crescent.

Scram

no support for dundalk then? limerick probably will get it

meoklmrk91

Scram wrote: »

no support for dundalk then? limerick probably will get it

Well I'm sure that if this wasn't in the Limerick section of boards you would get some support for Dundalk. However I think Limerick needs this more than anywhere else in Ireland, the city Is so quiet now and seems to have nothing going for it.

betonit

with ul, lit, the roads, the airport it must have a great chance!!

Next year paypal sponsoring munster

Kess73

betonit wrote: »

with ul, lit, the roads, the airport it must have a great chance!!

Next year paypal sponsoring munster

Dundalk has the advantage of being much closer to their head office/centre of excellence which is based in Blanchardstown where they already have over 1,000 staff. Plus it is not that far from Dublin airport and has motorways by it.

I don't see UL or LIT as any kind of draw to Paypal to be honest, no more than the likes of Trinity, UCD etc could be argued as advantages for any site nearish to Dublin.


I am just hoping that there is some political pressure applied or some financial incentives offered to the company to get them to Limerick. Big challenge for the likes of Michael Noonan to try and sway his colleagues in government to help Limerick. Pressure needs to be applied to the IDA etc to get something substantial like Paypal to take up in Limerick.

Although no doubt if they come we will see Willie O'Dea and Jimmy "I knew all along about it but could not say" Long come out and try to claim some kind of involvement.

I am pretty sure that Long was hinting at that when he made his usual "I know something but cannot say" comment at the turning on of the lights last night.

He came out with a similar comment after the Opera Centre was turned over to the city council/regen programme, and said something very similar a few weeks before that again when there were various claims of high level developers "just about" to buy the Opera centre.

ashgal

I live in Limerick (have done so for 11 years), but I'm from Dundalk....hmmm where do my allegions lie???

henryporter

+1 for Dundalk - they've suffered a fair bit of job losses in the recent past with Xerox and Littelfuse among others having closed. Plus like some of the posters say, they're nearer to Dublin, the airport etc.

Poxyshamrock

According to last week's Leader, a high profile meeting is to take place later today! Let's hope it goes well!

Wackoy2k

Passed EMF3 today and there are a few heads walking around. Chimneys are puffing out a little bit of smoke too. Haven't seen that for a while.

AnCapaillMor

henryporter wrote: »

+1 for Dundalk - they've suffered a fair bit of job losses in the recent past with Xerox and Littelfuse among others having closed. Plus like some of the posters say, they're nearer to Dublin, the airport etc.

If only limerick was near an airport.

the drifter

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

If only limerick was near an airport.

That operated flights to somewhere!

AnCapaillMor

Ah now lets not get ahead of ourselves.

roast

I really hope Limerick gets this...

Berty

In Dundalk today and I have been asking people what they think.

Common response was: Call Centre, Paypal, What?

I will ask more folk tomorrow and see.

the drifter

anyone hear any more???

1huge1

Not an announcement or anything but related.

http://www.argus.ie/news/workers-appeal-for-paypal-to-locate-here-2963137.html

angeleyes

reilly08 wrote: »

Am sure if they wanted this confidential they would of signed the contract behind closed doors. It's mad but when they signed the contract it wasn't in a boardroom behind closed door. It was in the bar of the crowne plaza hotel, it was described as very informal. In fact the PayPal execs insisted on trifle and wine instead of tea and biscuits :-)

Now I know you are talking s^&t

reilly08

angeleyes wrote: »

reilly08 wrote: »

Am sure if they wanted this confidential they would of signed the contract behind closed doors. It's mad but when they signed the contract it wasn't in a boardroom behind closed door. It was in the bar of the crowne plaza hotel, it was described as very informal. In fact the PayPal execs insisted on trifle and wine instead of tea and biscuits :-)

Now I know you are talking s^&t[/

Whatever mate. I taught the purpose of a forum was people to discuss things and share information. Believe what you like. It dont bother me much cause I have a job. But wouldn't be surprise me if you here something about it tomorrow cause judging by facebook must of dundalk know about it at this stage. Happy job hunting you idiot and for everyone else in limerick, sorry guys if you are dissapointed and I hope something else comes your way in 2012.

the drifter

Cards given to angeleyes and reilly08 for inappropriate language and insulting other members.

Keep it civil folks..

Insect Overlord

Also: Speculation removed until people start providing decent sources. "He says, she says" doesn't count.

Raiser

Beer Baron wrote: »

In Dundalk today and I have been asking people what they think.

Common response was: Call Centre, Paypal, What?

I will ask more folk tomorrow and see.

Let the cat out of the bag why don't you........sheesh......

freeze4real

Sorry to say its looking bad. As some posters have said PayPal shouldnt have announced anything to the public as this might have jeopardised the whole thing altogether.

I have nothing to back this up but my sources 3 of them
are legitimate.

I'm am not affiliated to PayPal. Not yet.

skyguy19

freeze4real wrote: »

Sorry to say its looking bad. As some posters have said PayPal shouldnt have announced anything to the public as this might have jeopardised the whole thing altogether.

I have nothing to back this up but my sources 3 of them
are legitimate.

I'm am not affiliated to PayPal. Not yet.

are you saying that paypal are not coming to Ireland at all over it been leaked

Scram

freeze4real wrote: »

Sorry to say its looking bad. As some posters have said PayPal shouldnt have announced anything to the public as this might have jeopardised the whole thing altogether.

I have nothing to back this up but my sources 3 of them
are legitimate.

I'm am not affiliated to PayPal. Not yet.

Aye what do you mean? There not picking either?

freeze4real

I cant really say anything order than what I've just said it could mean that they might not go for either and decide to expand their office in blanchardstown.

A decision could have been reacjhed ages ago if not for the public knowing about this.

if there's any more updates I will know by Monday.

ninty9er

PayPal isn't going to choose a location based on IDA or ministerial begging. The benefits of the location could be impressed upon them, but in the end it's cold hard facts that will make the decision. It's PayPal's money and I don't think it'd take too kindly to 'pressure'. That's essentially corruption.

Recent tax adjustments in the US could mean they're going to operate from there. It's quite possible the facts have shown the skillet isn't readily available in Limerick or Dublin.

dr.fuzzenstein

ninty9er wrote: »

PayPal isn't going to choose a location based on IDA or ministerial begging. The benefits of the location could be impressed upon them, but in the end it's cold hard facts that will make the decision. It's PayPal's money and I don't think it'd take too kindly to 'pressure'. That's essentially corruption.

Recent tax adjustments in the US could mean they're going to operate from there. It's quite possible the facts have shown the skillet isn't readily available in Limerick or Dublin.

I'm sure we can dig one up somewhere in the city:;)

ninty9er

Oopsie!

Skill set.

the drifter

So cant see anything in the media today yet

kilburn

ninty9er wrote: »

Oopsie!

Skill set.

I love that Limerick or Dublin might not have the skill set.

Its a call centre !

Clareman

Just because it's a call centre doesn't mean that anyone can do the job, in fact a lot of companies are moving out of Ireland because you can't get the staff, some of the problems would be that usually call centre staff are low paid and can be lured to another company very easily, if you are on (say) €80 a day in 1 company and another offers you €90, you will more than likely move, the company that's paying the €80 can't really counter offer because all the staff will be on the same level.
Call centres need a lot of support staff to keep them running, the internal support for all their systems (from Databases, to Telephones, to computers, to servers), staff supporting these types of systems are usually highly trained thanks to hands on experience.
Management of the start up can be difficult as well, usually you will get experienced staff from within your organisation to go setup the new site, but this can't always be guaranteed, often there will be a lot of head hunting in the area of the new site for experienced Project Managers to setup the operation.
Management of the site, as it'll be a new site with a lot of staff, you will need to get a management structure in place (Team Leaders, Operation Managers, Section Managers, etc.), ideally you would like to recruit a lot of these types of people from within the organisation, if not you would like to recruit from similar organisations in the area.