'Prime Time Investigates' Suspended.....

itac

Apologies, it's PRIME TIME INVESTIGATES that's been suspended, not the series-Mods, any chance you could amend the Thread Title for me?

Anyhoo, while I am apalled at how that episode of the show ever got to air, I don't believe that shelving/suspending the whole series is the answer. By all means, make those involved responsible for their actions, but I can't see how suspending future shows on different topics is going to make a difference. Prime Time, when it gets things right, can provide excellent insight into situations that may otherwise have been left unchallenged.

What do the good folks in AH think...? Are you happy to see it go?

(p.s. yes, I know...it's a highly original topic of conversation at the moment....)

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2011/1123/1224308004000.html

RTÉ’S FLAGSHIP investigative journalism series has been suspended for the rest of the year after the station’s boss admitted its journalists had made “one of the gravest editorial mistakes ever made” in the national broadcaster.

Director general Noel Curran’s frank admission came on foot of a Government-ordered investigation into the errors made in a Prime Time Investigates programme on Fr Kevin Reynolds last May.

Mr Curran signally failed to rule out the possibility of resignations over the programme and said recommendations would be brought forward to the next RTÉ board meeting in December.

The Cabinet yesterday approved an independent inquiry into why RTÉ broadcast the Mission to Prey programme, which wrongly accused Fr Reynolds of raping a minor and having a child by her while working as a missionary in Kenya 30 years ago. The investigation, the second into the programme, is expected to be completed within two months.

The decision was taken on foot of a recommendation by Minister for Communications Pat Rabbitte, who did not consult RTÉ beforehand.
Mr Rabbitte said the public had a right to know why such an “egregious error” had occurred. He has charged the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland’s compliance committee to examine if RTÉ “met its statutory responsibilities around objectivity, impartiality and fairness”.

A Government spokesman said the decision had been taken in view of “general disquiet” about the issue. Rejecting any inference of undue interference with RTÉ, he said: “There is extensive public disquiet about the case and it involves the national broadcaster. Taken together, this provides the basis for the decision that was taken.”

In its decision, the Cabinet invoked previously unused legislation, which allows the authority’s compliance committee to appoint an investigator to inquire into how a programme was made. It will have the power to compel witnesses to attend and to provide all records relevant to the making of the programme.

Mr Curran promised full co-operation with the BAI but said he wasn’t personally involved in the decisions that led to the programme.
The Prime Time Investigates series due to be aired in December has been suspended pending the outcome of RTÉ’s internal review and also a review by Press Ombudsman John Horgan.

The BAI’s eight-member compliance committee, headed by NUI Maynooth professor Chris Morash, includes Irish Times columnist John Waters, who has written in trenchant terms about the RTÉ programme and who believes there is an anti-Catholic bias in the Irish media.
The compliance committee, which usually adjudicates on complaints from the public, will be able to choose from within their own ranks or a suitably qualified outsider to hold the inquiry. It must report within two months.

hondasam

They fcuked up big time and should he held accountable, what else have they got wrong.

ArphaRima

I cant wait to see the Prime Time episode uncovering what's happened here..

The government is blocking our state broadcaster's highly critical (of the government especially) expose show.

galwayrush

Prime Time special to investigate Prime Time episode.......:D

Sunnyisland

fluffer wrote: »

I cant wait to see the Prime Time episode uncovering what's happened here..

The government is blocking our state broadcaster's highly critical (of the government especially) expose show.

A prime time investigates on a prime time investigates :rolleyes:

Sunnyisland

Seriously some one has to be held accountable as it looks like they didn't bother checking there sources and took it as gospel that what was been said about the catholic priest was true,I remember seeing that program and calling that priest all the names under the Sun .

efb

Prime Time Investigates is suspended please correct the thread tirle

MagicMarker

Well if they can make a simple mistake of publicly accusing someone of a crime on national television without any kind of evidence then how are we to know they aren't as shoddy in everything else they ''investigate''?

They should all be fired and made work for City Channel.

texidub

One RTE programme down.. how many to go? :pac:

44leto

I have a feeling this case (while an appalling mistake) is an excuse for cut backs to an expensive and quality show. It is also stinks of government interference to the best investigative journalism and informative vehicle in the country, just as the government is about to implement major austerity measures which need independent analysis which Primetime does best.

I can't help thinking this is censorship and by Pat Rabbitte :eek:. I am utterly against this decision.

MagicMarker

44leto wrote: »

It is also stinks of government interference to the best investigative journalism and informative vehicle in the country.

You're extracting the urine, yes?

Freddie59

hondasam wrote: »

They fcuked up big time and should he held accountable, what else have they got wrong.

Agreed. RTE itself needs to be examined, dismantled, restructured, and downsized.

Freddie59

44leto wrote: »

I have a feeling this case (while an appalling mistake) is an excuse for cut backs to an expensive and quality show. It is also stinks of government interference to the best investigative journalism and informative vehicle in the country, just as the government is about to implement major austerity measures which need independent analysis which Primetime does best.

I can't help thinking this is censorship and by Pat Rabbitte :eek:. I am utterly against this decision.

Wouldn't agree at all. Can't stand Rabbitte but even he couldn't cause this.

realdanbreen

Looks like we will have to depend on the Star & the Daily Mail for reliable information from now on.(Oh and the Sunday World also).

44leto

Freddie59 wrote: »

Wouldn't agree at all. Can't stand Rabbitte but even he couldn't cause this.

According to the article it was "his recommendation" ministerial recommendation over a public body, that carries a sith lot of weight.

And no to another poster I am not taking the urine Primetime is a great news analysis public service.

itac

efb wrote: »

Prime Time Investigates is suspended please correct the thread tirle

Can't figure out how to change the title, but have amended my op a bit


Personally, I think the Investigates has done a good job over the years, this just seems to have been one that was too tempting not to go with. As with every edited media piece, be it print, audio, or visual, you have to view with caution, as there's very rarely a totally objective piece.

I would like to see everyone involved explaining exactly why/what happened to make them produce such a piece, especially with Fr. Reynolds offering them proof beforehand. RTE does need a shake-up, and badly, but at the same time, sometimes they can produce some wonderful pieces too.

Handy11

MagicMarker wrote: »

44leto wrote: »

It is also stinks of government interference to the best investigative journalism and informative vehicle in the country.

You're extracting the urine, yes?

Has to be, surely. Some of the exposé shows they did, in particular the one on the Gardai and the one on Social Workers, were completely unbalanced, risible, sensationalist rubbish. They are about as even handed as a Michael Moore documentary.

Yes, it's great that they "investigate" into government matters, but we know their hands are tied there for libel, whereas they aren't for any other sector of society that they want to blacken.

Delighted they are getting done for this. IMO someone (lead editor or journo) should see jail for what they did to that priest.

mconigol

Fairly standard procedure for any investigation.

At least in the real world.

44leto

Handy11 wrote: »

Has to be, surely. Some of the exposé shows they did, in particular the one on the Gardai and the one on Social Workers, were completely unbalanced, risible, sensationalist rubbish. They are about as even handed as a Michael Moore documentary.

Yes, it's great that they "investigate" into government matters, but we know their hands are tied there for libel, whereas they aren't for any other sector of society that they want to blacken.

Delighted they are getting done for this. IMO someone (lead editor or journo) should see jail for what they did to that priest.

I didn't think the few they did on the Gardai where, heres a guarantee, if a state is corrupt, as Ireland was for a long time, the police force is corrupt. As for the one about the social workers, well that is an impossible job to get right, so I agree with you.

But who else does this type of very expensive journalism in this country. Nobody is the answer. We need Primetime,

Jumpy

This was my favourite episode of Prime Time Investigates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjvnRM554lw

Sensationalist rubbish.

starbelgrade

Miriam O'Callaghan should get her tits out.

I realise this has nothing to do with the subject matter of this thread, but I felt it needed to be said.

Handy11

44leto wrote: »

I didn't think the few they did on the Gardai where, heres a guarantee, if a state is corrupt, as Ireland was for a long time, the police force is corrupt. As for the one about the social workers, well that is an impossible job to get right, so I agree with you.

But who else does this type of very expensive journalism in this country. Nobody is the answer. We need Primetime,

Not quite. We need a proper investigative programme put together by proper investigative journalists, that only airs when they have a story. The problem is they arrange the shows and then are under pressure to fill them. False accusations and muddled/biased shows are of course going to arise from this.

As regards the Gardai being corrupt. I'm not going to begin an argument with you on this but that is a ridiculously naive and sweeping statement to make. It is not a "guarantee" whatsoever. There may be a few incompetent or ignorant gards around. There may even be a tiny portion of them who are corrupt. A rare case. But to say that it logically follows that the Gardai are corrupt because the government are is just nonsense. I won't say any more on that.

hondasam

starbelgrade wrote: »

Miriam O'Callaghan should get her tits out.

I realise this has nothing to do with the subject matter of this thread, but I felt it needed to be said.

I think we have read enough about Miriam's private bits on AH's.
Might be fake anyway.:pac:

44leto

Handy11 wrote: »

Not quite. We need a proper investigative programme put together by proper investigative journalists, that only airs when they have a story. The problem is they arrange the shows and then are under pressure to fill them. False accusations and muddled/biased shows are of course going to arise from this.

As regards the Gardai being corrupt. I'm not going to begin an argument with you on this but that is a ridiculously naive and sweeping statement to make. It is not a "guarantee" whatsoever. There may be a few incompetent or ignorant gards around. There may even be a tiny portion of them who are corrupt. A rare case. But to say that it logically follows that the Gardai are corrupt because the government are is just nonsense. I won't say any more on that.

It was great having a mate who was a guard in the 80s he would get fines quashed, get us into concerts for nothing and sometimes nightclubs, absolutely not now. But that was then and thanks to investigative journalism a lot of the higher level corruption has being routed. Because of it I believe Irish politics and public bodies are lot better for it.

They do have to fill a programme with usually 2 stories, so yes they should concentrate on informing the public and only do exposes when they are sure and thorough.

texidub

Bit of a case of throwing the baby out with the dishwater. The journalist and editor on that particular story should be suspended, investigated, and if sufficient evidence is found --sacked. Someone lied to someone in Montrose because there's no way decent lawyers (funny concept, I know) would have let that through.

BTW, the smell of RTE shill on this thread is overwhelming.

It's my understanding that Boards has an approval process that has to be gone through before representatives of private companies can post on threads. Something similar needs to be done with RTE shills.

These shills should declare their interest out of common decency of course, but I won't hold my breath.

Handy11

44leto wrote: »

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It was great having a mate who was a guard in the 80s he would get fines quashed, get us into concerts for nothing and sometimes nightclubs, absolutely not now. But that was then and thanks to investigative journalism a lot of the higher level corruption has being routed. Because of it I believe Irish politics and public bodies are lot better for it.

2 things on the above. While that is true, I think it's a tenuous enough link to "corruption", and it's certainly not parking tickets that either Prime Time or your other post were alluding to.

Secondly, it's not investigative journalism that ended that climate of rule bending - it was the overtaking of handwritten notes, files and pocketbooks by an integrated online system, along with the efforts of ambitious high ranking Gardai to have their force clean and shiny looking. With a computerised system it's very very very difficult to make any adjustment to a fine/charge, and it's impossible to make disappear without leaving a trail.

44leto

Handy11 wrote: »

2 things on the above. While that is true, I think it's a tenuous enough link to "corruption", and it's certainly not parking tickets that either Prime Time or your other post were alluding to.

Secondly, it's not investigative journalism that ended that climate of rule bending - it was the overtaking of handwritten notes, files and pocketbooks by an integrated online system, along with the efforts of ambitious high ranking Gardai to have their force clean and shiny looking. With a computerised system it's very very very difficult to make any adjustment to a fine/charge, and it's impossible to make disappear without leaving a trail.

Bollox I know my mate stopped when a number of guards got sacked in the 80s for abusing their badge. I did a spate of door work and I remember saying to a pissed guard who flashed his badge "SO", you are still not getting in. But the head bouncer relented.

The guards wouldn't do that now. But your point being a computer system stopped the quashing of fines and maybe, but it should not have been a computer system that stopped it. It should have being the authorities in the guards.

I trust the Gardai now, I think they are a good police service, but I didn't in the 80s and the early 90s.

My point was once you got the high level corruption exposed, largely by investigative journalism, and all the public outrage at that, all the other public bodies cleaned up their act.

mdoyler2

The government drip feeds the RTE information every day.

The RTE should be privatised; you can’t have an independent state broadcaster.

Privatisation would also get rid of extravagant payments to likes of Kenny, Duffy and Turbidy. It would also stop the cronyism; it’s rife in the RTE; even the Director General Noel Curran was in on it given his brother Richard the job presenting Dragon’s Den.

44leto

mdoyler2 wrote: »

The government drip feeds the RTE information every day.

The RTE should be privatised; you can’t have an independent state broadcaster.

Privatisation would also get rid of extravagant payments to likes of Kenny, Duffy and Turbidy. It would also stop the cronyism; it’s rife in the RTE; even the Director General Noel Curran was in on it given his brother Richard the job presenting Dragon’s Den.

But privatisation would also get rid of the community and broadcasting for the public good. We would effectively have 2 TV3s, so no I don't agree. You could trim it down and yes cut exorbitant wages.

washiskin

There HAS to be accountability here - there simply has to be.

This man's life has been destroyed by a show that relied on the (right) public's revulsion of preying clergy to get a shoddily authenticated claim across the line and we fell for it. No amount of money or apologies can change everyone's opinion once a claim like this has been aired not once but TWICE on two of the national broadcaster's flagship shows.

And then to issue a "sorry about that" one month and then to go to court to defend a clearly baseless allegation the next - that beggars belief, especially since there has been a paternity test done.

If this turns out to be one of those issues where a politician hops up & down and beats his chest in a public show of "do the right thing" and then it gets discretely swept under the carpet and the team involved get transfered to other areas of RTE - I will have given up all hope of decency & accountability getting a foot hold here - it seems we can just crap all over someone's life and get away with it and we all carry on as if it's just a fact of life.

mdoyler2

44leto wrote: »

But privatisation would also get rid of the community and broadcasting for the public good. We would effectively have 2 TV3s, so no I don't agree. You could trim it down and yes cut exorbitant wages.

There is very little community or broadcasting for the public good anyway. If the government wished they could change the legislation, to ensure that any broadcaster operating in the state provides funding for “public good broadcasting.” E.g. a percentage of revenue.

Privatising the RTE would save every family in the country the license fee.

texidub

Absolutely correct. RTE doesn't do actual community broadcasting. People confuse reporting from country villages with real community broadcasting, which involves opening up the airwaves to eh..... the community to make and broadcast their own programs.

The chances of that happening in a culture like Ireland's or being aided by a monopoly-esque broadcaster like RTE are very, very slim. Keep the head down, shut up and be good boys and girls is about the size of it... a message very much spread by RTE through the decades (a message that suits them VERY well since a) they mix int he same circles as the irish establishment and b) a bolshy, demanding audience in a truly open society would have had heads rolling in RTE a LONG time ago).

RTE should look after the broadcasting infrastructure and stick to news, culture (acting as an archive for the nation's culture) and public interest sport. TG4 should be closed down immediately and blended with RTE 1. Irish-language programming should account for about 3% of the programming on the new channel (equivalent to its current share of the Irish TV market), moving up and down in direct proportion to the number of people in the country who speak Irish on a daily basis.

RTE should immediately stop importing expensive foreign TV programmes. It's supposed to be a state broadcaster and programme maker --leave the foreign imports to other channels.

All its puerile chat shows should be cancelled immediately.

A strict wage scale should be adhered to. No private contracts with freelancers.

RTE is a typically Irish establishment entity --all false patriotism on one hand ("Look at all we do for the country/We have a public remit and responsibilities that go with it") and, on the other hand being all "Look! We can do chat shows like people in the real world media too!" and paying themselves VERY WELL to play out their make-believe fantasies! You can't cover all the serious. public interest, weighty stuff AND do all the fluff and foreign imports too. Leave the muck to TV3 and others and take care of what matters.

Independent investigative journalism on a state broadcaster? Really?

/rant

44leto

mdoyler2 wrote: »

There is very little community or broadcasting for the public good anyway. If the government wished they could change the legislation, to ensure that any broadcaster operating in the state provides funding for “public good broadcasting.” E.g. a percentage of revenue.

Privatising the RTE would save every family in the country the license fee

But that percentage of revenue get puts into programmes for the public good but are big advertising earners such as children's television or is incorporated into mainstream programmes, for example a programme like Greys Anatomy putting the dangers of drugs or alcohol into their programme. That is what usually happens with such legislation.

I believe Primetime is such a programme as is Nationwide, farmers programmes even the religious ones. Would y7ou like 2 TV3 because that is what you get. They do do investigative journalism but usually about prostitutes or drugs barons, sensationalist shyte.

I value RTE and you will find you would miss it if it was gone. On my own Tam/Nielsen rating survey I find I watch more RTE then any other station.

44leto

texidub wrote: »

Absolutely correct. RTE doesn't do actual community broadcasting. People confuse reporting from country villages with real community broadcasting, which involves opening up the airwaves to eh..... the community to make and broadcast their own programs.

The chances of that happening in a culture like Ireland's or being aided by a monopoly-esque broadcaster like RTE are very, very slim. Keep the head down, shut up and be good boys and girls is about the size of it... a message very much spread by RTE through the decades (a message that suits them VERY well since a) they mix int he same circles as the irish establishment and b) a bolshy, demanding audience in a truly open society would have had heads rolling in RTE a LONG time ago).

RTE should look after the broadcasting infrastructure and stick to news, culture (acting as an archive for the nation's culture) and public interest sport. TG4 should be closed down immediately and blended with RTE 1. Irish-language programming should account for about 3% of the programming on the new channel (equivalent to its current share of the Irish TV market), moving up and down in direct proportion to the number of people in the country who speak Irish on a daily basis.

RTE should immediately stop importing expensive foreign TV programmes. It's supposed to be a state broadcaster and programme maker --leave the foreign imports to other channels.

All its puerile chat shows should be cancelled immediately.

A strict wage scale should be adhered to. No private contracts with freelancers.

RTE is a typically Irish establishment entity --all false patriotism on one hand ("Look at all we do for the country/We have a public remit and responsibilities that go with it") and, on the other hand being all "Look! We can do chat shows like people in the real world media too!" and paying themselves VERY WELL to play out their make-believe fantasies! You can't cover all the serious. public interest, weighty stuff AND do all the fluff and foreign imports too. Leave the muck to TV3 and others and take care of what matters.

Independent investigative journalism on a state broadcaster? Really?

/rant

What on Earth would RTE want to hand over their time and the public station to some local who could do the very same on youtube, or boadrs for that matter. We are all in the media these days, I am posting on one of its outlets.

Handy11

44leto wrote: »

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My point was once you got the high level corruption exposed, largely by investigative journalism, and all the public outrage at that, all the other public bodies cleaned up their act.

Can you give me an idea of the high level corruption that you say was exposed?

texidub

44leto wrote: »

What on Earth would RTE want to hand over their time and the public station to some local who could do the very same on youtube, or boadrs for that matter. We are all in the media these days, I am posting on one of its outlets.

Maybe they would do it because they are supposed to be a public service broadcaster? Maybe because they are happy to take money from 'some local' too in the form of the TV license which is extorted under threat of fines and imprisonment? Maybe because it would encourage a free and open society?

But they won't. It suits them to encourage a closed shop so that they can play out their fantasies.

44leto

Handy11 wrote: »

Can you give me an idea of the high level corruption that you say was exposed?

Jesus,,
All the Tribunals that has passed through the years, Haughey, Lawlor, Bertie, Lowry, etc etc etc

Handy11

44leto wrote: »

Handy11 wrote: »

Can you give me an idea of the high level corruption that you say was exposed?

Jesus,,
All the Tribunals that has passed through the years, Haughey, Lawlor, Bertie, Lowry, etc etc etc

We were debating the Gardai, not politicians. You claim there was a spate of Gardai fired in the 80s and tha investigative journalism has been the main driver in cleaning up the Garda organisation from the top down. I was asking for an example or evidence of this. and don't quote the Morris or Barr tribunals, as they were isolated incidents.

My overall point is that PrimeTime frequently takes one angle, usually isolated or rare, and paints whole organisations with that one brush, by simply having no journalistic ethics or the desire to paint a full picture.

44leto

Handy11 wrote: »

We were debating the Gardai, not politicians. You claim there was a spate of Gardai fired in the 80s and tha investigative journalism has been the main driver in cleaning up the Garda organisation from the top down. I was asking for an example or evidence of this. and don't quote the Morris or Barr tribunals, as they were isolated incidents.

My overall point is that PrimeTime frequently takes one angle, usually isolated or rare, and paints whole organisations with that one brush, by simply having no journalistic ethics or the desire to paint a full picture.

We were debating primetime, but that is neither here nor there. I don't know why you would exclude your posted examples because that was very high level sickening corruption, but I would not taint all the guard with that brush.

Would you say the quashing of fines or the abusing the badge was not corruption, I would. But if you want to clean up a corrupt state, you clean up higher level corruption then the rest will follow. That is just my opinion. That was done by investigative journalism in both RTE and the print media. But IMO primetime did it better, they have more resources. The print media worldwide is laying off staff and cutting back whereever they can and expensive time consuming investigative journalism is one of those areas.

The media world is going through a transformation and going web based, even the great new york times is in trouble. If we do not have a service that does this journalism we will be all worse off, Primetime is a place that still does it IMO well.

Dyr

[QUOTE=Handy11;75620472 and don't quote the Morris or Barr tribunals, as they were isolated incidents.
[/QUOTE]

You mean isolated in that they got caught? :rolleyes:

The shenanigans that the morris tribunal revealed doesn't happen without a culture of lawlessness being present in de force. And the tribunal found that was the case. Oddly enough a lot of its recommendations on how to keep that gardas on the straight and narrow have never been implemented.

Keitho Dub

How menny other times has this happen ? i think alot as Irish tv and papers investigates jack thay go on what Garda or other people who do not no what thay are on about.

Gummy Panda

starbelgrade wrote: »

Miriam O'Callaghan should get her tits out.

I realise this has nothing to do with the subject matter of this thread, but I felt it needed to be said.

I'd vote you into the dail if this was your campaign agenda

Dotrel

Prime Time Investigates ..... Homer Simpson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAe3FpLGvBY

munster4868

Name me someone that's perfect... Prime time exposed alot of wrong doings since 2001... This time they got it wrong but hea, as I said they done alot more good than bad!!
Nursing home scandels - church run institutions - disabilities - taxi service - to name a few!!

mikom

munster4868 wrote: »

Name me someone that's perfect... Prime time exposed alot of wrong doings since 2001... This time they got it wrong but hea, as I said they done alot more good than bad!!
Nursing home scandels - church run institutions - disabilities - taxi service - to name a few!!

Always reactive...... never proactive.
You give Primetime too much credit.
The dogs in the street would be yapping about such scandals before primetime got up off their arse.
They should have asked the dogs for the truth about Fr. Reynolds, as it may have been more accurate.

Major RTE shill on this thread by the way (not you munster4868).
I'd advise readers to check posting history of contributors.

munster4868

mikom wrote: »

Always reactive...... never proactive.
You give Primetime too much credit.
The dogs in the street would be yapping about such scandals before primetime got up off their arse.
They should have asked the dogs for the truth about Fr. Reynolds, as it may have been more accurate.

Major RTE shill on this thread by the way (not you munster4868).
I'd advise readers to check posting history of contributors.

Maybe so... but correct me if I am wrong here but there is no obligation on RTE to investigate crime in Ireland.. There obligation under their remit is to provide a public service in which I think more often they do! Other than trying to brain-wash us with repeats of S**t shows and poorly made homegrown T.V. but I think that's more down to budget and an aging crop of people within that organisation.

If you reply to say a public service should include crime investigation than wouldn't all the rest of the public sector be obliged to do the same as they under their contracts provide a public service and paid by the public purse!!

On the point of this tread and the major wrong doing Primetime done in relation to the Priest in question, yes agree, major failings in investigating the truth happened... but I refer to my earlier post... more often they DO get it right and I do find that this type of bashing and finger pointing to be a bit rich! You say that the dogs on the streets know about things before RTE would report about it, but should it not firstly be the duty of the citizen to report this to the Gardai than the Gardai investigate it, or maybe some other News agency... but they don't.... well except for one well know writer for a certain newspaper!! I would say why they have got it right before is that time was spent in investigating subjects and giving them the right of reply and looking into the subject in great detail thus causing this illusion of time passing and the dogs in the street barking about it as you said!

Taking your point about getting the finger out, I think they may have done it this time and didn't take the time they usually put into past investigations and ran with a flawed story!

Now in saying that I do feel heads should role if the current investigation into what happened finds that to be the case!!
The public service or sector can't and shouldn't be allowed to be shielded anymore from the mistakes that they cause.

ejmaztec

starbelgrade wrote: »

Miriam O'Callaghan should get her tits out.

I realise this has nothing to do with the subject matter of this thread, but I felt it needed to be said.

Here you go

mikom

munster4868 wrote: »

Maybe so... but correct me if I am wrong here but there is no obligation on RTE to investigate crime in Ireland.. There obligation under their remit is to provide a public service in which I think more often they do!

So what is "primetime investigates"?
What should it investigate?
Kiddies tea parties perhaps.
Might as well scrap it so.

munster4868 wrote: »

You say that the dogs on the streets know about things before RTE would report about it, but should it not firstly be the duty of the citizen to report this to the Gardai than the Gardai investigate it,

Believe me citizens report to the Gardai , day in, day out.
You just never hear about it

munster4868

mikom wrote: »

So what is "primetime investigates"?
What should it investigate?
Kiddies tea parties perhaps.
Might as well scrap it so.




Believe me citizens report to the Gardai , day in, day out.
You just never hear about it

Ah come on.... look at all the successful issues that was reported on... nursing homes - taxis - church run places etc....
I think you well know that slapping someone down for one mistake is a bit rich but hea, I would and will never have any say in how RTE do their business..
On the other point - oh I do know

Carlow52

time to can the trocaire box/ foreign aid/ etc until how come black african women were able to fool AK etc is explained.. at least scully suffered from aggressive behavior

mikom

Carlow52 wrote: »

time to can the trocaire box/ foreign aid/ etc until how come black african women were able to fool AK etc is explained.. at least scully suffered from aggressive behavior

With Pamela Isbeckii as a mentor anything is possible.