Rossmore, Quicke or JD loader

golfcruiser

Thinking of putting a Rossmore loader on a John deere tractor. Works out alot cheaper than buying a Quicke or JD loader.

Rossmore has the self levelling, quick attach, shock absorbers and will be sprayed john deere colours..

Anybody any info on what they're like to work with though, reach, handling etc..

Thanks

flatout11

golfcruiser wrote: »

Thinking of putting a Rossmore loader on a John deere tractor. Works out alot cheaper than buying a Quicke or JD loader.

Rossmore has the self levelling, quick attach, shock absorbers and will be sprayed john deere colours..

Anybody any info on what they're like to work with though, reach, handling etc..

Thanks

there grand will end up rusting quicker
did you price around for the loader???

golfcruiser

flatout11 wrote: »

there grand will end up rusting quicker
did you price around for the loader???

Yep, Rossmore fully fitted = €5800

JD fitted = €9000-9500, with Quicke the same give or take 300 each way

polod

Im in the process of getting a front loader myself, can I just ask what does the 'self levelling' function do ?

cheers

pakalasa

polod wrote: »

......what does the 'self levelling' function do ?

It has a parallel linkage, so whatever tip you have the front implement at, bucket, fork etc, it will stay at that level, when you lift up the loader.
On an ordinary loader, the higher you lift it, the more the front bucket tips up. It's handy, but not a necessity.

Ordinary



'self levelling'

Tipp Man

If travelling on the road with the loader on then i would consider the anti bounce whatever its called a necessatity

flatout11

Tipp Man wrote: »

If travelling on the road with the loader on then i would consider the anti bounce whatever its called a necessatity

id agree fully with tipp man , think its called soft drive - lot eaiser on the tractor
prices seem a bit steep then again it was a few years ago but i remember the quickies were coming in around €7500 ish

pakalasa

What don't they galvanise the bloody things?
It wouldn't cost a fortune.

jeff greene

I would say self leveling is a necessity. After years on one, I used a non self leveling one day and reversing back while lifting, landing a bucket full of meal onto the cab:o

As for the makes, Quicke > JD > Rossmore. At those prices though...

hedgecutting eddie

golfcruiser wrote: »

Thinking of putting a Rossmore loader on a John deere tractor. Works out alot cheaper than buying a Quicke or JD loader.

Rossmore has the self levelling, quick attach, shock absorbers and will be sprayed john deere colours..

Anybody any info on what they're like to work with though, reach, handling etc..

Thanks

local dealer sells both rossmore and quicke, he was telling me the anyone that buys a rossmore comes back after few years and buys the quicke ,we bought a second hand quicke this year very strong and the brackets are way tidier than the rossmore brackets

vanderbadger

hedgecutting eddie wrote: »

local dealer sells both rossmore and quicke, he was telling me the anyone that buys a rossmore comes back after few years and buys the quicke ,we bought a second hand quicke this year very strong and the brackets are way tidier than the rossmore brackets

+1
had a rossmore, no trouble with it but have a quicke now and its a way tidier, rossmore is a clumsy loader, also hate the bracket part that comes across bonnet

blue5000

golfcruiser wrote: »

Yep, Rossmore fully fitted = €5800

JD fitted = €9000-9500, with Quicke the same give or take 300 each way

ffs at those prices a mf 50hx or something similiar is looking v tempting

BeeDI

golfcruiser wrote: »

flatout11 wrote: »

there grand will end up rusting quicker
did you price around for the loader???

Yep, Rossmore fully fitted = €5800

JD fitted = €9000-9500, with Quicke the same give or take 300 each way

FFS. There was a lad on another thread, wondering about spending €1,100 on a three point link thing for unwinding bales. He was nearly ran out of the place and told to put loader on his tractor instead.

Now I know where he was coming from, with loaders costing this kind of money.

Get a 3CX, or a decent enough teleporter for a few bob more.

JohnBoy

Self levelling also increases the lift capacity of a loader. Dont ask me to explain the physics of it, cos I dont understand them, but it does increase lift capacity.


Mental money alright though, as said you'd get a tidy digger for 9 grand.

Tipp Man

BeeDI wrote: »

FFS. There was a lad on another thread, wondering about spending €1,100 on a three point link thing for unwinding bales. He was nearly ran out of the place and told to put loader on his tractor instead.

Now I know where he was coming from, with loaders costing this kind of money.

Get a 3CX, or a decent enough teleporter for a few bob more.

Those prices are for a brand new loader

I don't think anybody in the thread you refer to told the guy he should get a brand new loader - a secondhand loader would do him fine - he was only feeding a couple of pens of cattle

Around us several people have traded in the JCB or the telehandlers for tractor with loaders - they have said the tractor loader is a lot more flexible

6600

Have a look at an MX, they have better visibility than the Quicke which can obscure your sideways vision at times. We have a Q55 and its great but having used an MX kinda sorry didn't go for one as they're a lot neater, have a lot better joystick and as good if not better on price.
Spent years with a pos loader on a pos tractor. Would not go back now, the time saved by having a machine fit for the job is unreal. Best thing we ever bought imo.
As for the 50B idea, who wants another ball of scrap around the place to break down? They're painfully slow on the road and can't do any other job other than load. A good loader on a good tractor makes money. If you keep your eye out you'll find a 2nd hand loader to fit your tractor.

JohnBoy

you're the only one suggesting a 50b piece of scrap. others suggested a 3cx or 50hx, relatively modern machines, and a tidy one could be bought for 9.5k

Generally the arm on the back can do a hell of a lot more than load too

http://www.donedeal.ie/find/plantmachinery/for-sale/Ireland/3cx?filter(max_price)=10000&filter(min_price)=8500&source=all

Tipp Man

JohnBoy wrote: »

you're the only one suggesting a 50b piece of scrap. others suggested a 3cx or 50hx, relatively modern machines, and a tidy one could be bought for 9.5k

Generally the arm on the back can do a hell of a lot more than load too

http://www.donedeal.ie/find/plantmachinery/for-sale/Ireland/3cx?filter(max_price)=10000&filter(min_price)=8500&source=all

how bloody awkward around the yard would that be

wouldn't touch 1 with a barge pole myself

ellewood

golfcruiser wrote: »

Yep, Rossmore fully fitted = €5800

JD fitted = €9000-9500, with Quicke the same give or take 300 each way

is the rossmore price including everything loader, brackets, joystick, fitting, including vat ??
only reason i ask is im pricing tractors and loaders lately and the amount of lads with ****ty loaders on tractors telling you the loader is worth 5 grand - at least.
thanks.

BeeDI

Tipp Man wrote: »

how bloody awkward around the yard would that be

wouldn't touch 1 with a barge pole myself

I see your point, and I saw on another thread, you feed 800 cattle, or some big number like that.
Obviously, you need to be and you probably are geared up to do that in a way that keeps you sane. Good modern tractor / loader combo, would be a basic necessity. Full stop.
But if you are a small operator, you might well contract in a lad in summer with gear like yours to stack bales and so on, as you may have a handy oldish tractor without loader. Finding second hand loader and doing all the fitting and plumbing for these tractors, is not as easy or cheap as you would hope for!
In that case a JCB kind of machine, would get you by for winter feeding, and would be damn handy to have throughout the year. Small farmer who would get limited use out of a front loader on a tractor, would find plenty to do with a JCB. Winter in the yard. Summer on the land.

F.D

Old rossmore loaders wer a heavy dog of a thing on a tractor, used on on a 390t no features like you listed on it now so maybe they have made good progress over the years, the reach was very poor also, but if thats the correct price its hard to pass, i also heard a newholland service guy giving out about the poor access to the engines when rossmore are fitted no hassle with the quicke ones,
like the idea of a digger too and have often thought about it but its getting in and out of sheds with it could be a problem, then again you could always knock them down with the arm on the back

Tipp Man

BeeDI wrote: »

I see your point, and I saw on another thread, you feed 800 cattle, or some big number like that.
Obviously, you need to be and you probably are geared up to do that in a way that keeps you sane. Good modern tractor / loader combo, would be a basic necessity. Full stop.
But if you are a small operator, you might well contract in a lad in summer with gear like yours to stack bales and so on, as you may have a handy oldish tractor without loader. Finding second hand loader and doing all the fitting and plumbing for these tractors, is not as easy or cheap as you would hope for!
In that case a JCB kind of machine, would get you by for winter feeding, and would be damn handy to have throughout the year. Small farmer who would get limited use out of a front loader on a tractor, would find plenty to do with a JCB. Winter in the yard. Summer on the land.

800 bales not 800 cattle;) we're nowhere near that size and I'm damn glad i wasn't trying to buy 800 cattle this autumn:D

I take your point - but i just think that the JCB is too awkward around a yard. If you are only feeding a small number of cattle then a new tractor and loader is a long way from a necessity but you can pick up a decent tractor and loader for not much more than the cost of those JCB's

Just my opinion - horses for courses i suppose

6600

Good luck with your tidy, modern 20 year old machine. Been there, done that. You'll still need a tractor though...

jeff greene

6600 wrote: »

Good luck with your tidy, modern 20 year old machine. Been there, done that. You'll still need a tractor though...

:rolleyes:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You'll still need a tractor but a dedicated loader is the most useful thing on a farm, that doesn't mean taken the tank or mower off to go feeding etc For me a dedicated loader eg 860, 50hxs, 3cx > tractor loader, in terms of loader strength, front axle strength, ballast, steering lock, shuttle, loader speed. The latter few only in comparison to older tractors mind. I drove an 6630 with a loader this summer and it was excellent.

keep going

go quicke,there is a reason why they can charge but mx are good too.a loader is something you are using every day and a more user friendly setup makes life a lot easier and you will do more.use my own to throw silage and went to do it for a neighbour with his setup this year and couldnt do half the job .as for digger verus loader debate,a lot of those older diggers give a nice bit of trouble and feeding silage you have to do it on the day so would prefer a fresher loader on a tractor than an older digger/tractor combo.also separate digger/loader are a pain in the ass if you are renting a lot of outside blocks and dont have some to drive it or ferry you around.however they have higher work rates and more capacity so it depends on your setup

Bizzum

6600 wrote: »

Have a look at an MX, they have better visibility than the Quicke which can obscure your sideways vision at times. We have a Q55 and its great but having used an MX kinda sorry didn't go for one as they're a lot neater, have a lot better joystick.

In relation to the joystick on the Quicke, are they problematic?

We had a Rossmore and now have a Quicke. The self leveling is handy but you quickly get used to a loader without it anyway.
The Quicke is a sweeter loader all round and much berrtr on the road.

valtra8150

cousin had rossmore loader on a case said it was middlen. the neighbour has the same tractor with quickie loader he was driving his and he said rossmore compared to quickie quickie lot lot better for the 4000 extra go for quickie or buy a secound had quickie tid be just as good.

golfcruiser

ellewood wrote: »

is the rossmore price including everything loader, brackets, joystick, fitting, including vat ??
only reason i ask is im pricing tractors and loaders lately and the amount of lads with ****ty loaders on tractors telling you the loader is worth 5 grand - at least.
thanks.

5800 including fitting, brackets etc.

JD loader comes in at about 5-6k, if you were buying a new tractor aswell.

JD and Quicke loader's vary in price, but theres usually about €300 between them either way.

golfcruiser

blue5000 wrote: »

ffs at those prices a mf 50hx or something similiar is looking v tempting

Rossmore price is reasonable enough, but the others are too expensive in my opinion.

What price would a 50hx be, hp etc.??

MANSFIELD

Buy the quickie if you can a far better loader than the rossmore imo.

A mechanic told me that its a nightmare to work on a tractor that has a rossmore loader plus the features like quick attach and soft ride make the quickie a superb loader

yellow50HX

just on the 50hx side, got one about 8-9 years ago and have to say was a great buy, yes they can be awqward around a tight yard or shed but the you have to wait almost 20 years to get a tractor and loader conbo that can match the ease of use (or about 30-40k) but yes you will still need a tractor, they are not really designed for pulling and are slow on teh road but thats not they are for. alos you will be delighted at what else you can use them for our own is teh main machine on the farm.
now i am looking to change the tractor and will be getting one with a loader but i wont be gettign rid of the digger there is always work for it here.

if you have a decent tractor and dont need it for lots combined tractor and loader work (drawign bales, dung etc) and have a high enough shed to take the back actor you can pick up a good digger for about 10k, this will save the front axel and clutch (and your left knee). if you still need the tractor for some light loader work then get a second hant loader for it.

Milton09

golfcruiser wrote: »

5800 including fitting, brackets etc.

JD loader comes in at about 5-6k, if you were buying a new tractor aswell.

JD and Quicke loader's vary in price, but theres usually about €300 between them either way.

I remember looking into this before, I think JD, MF and Quicke loaders are all made by the same company (ALO) and just badged to suit, that would explain the similar price

oldsmokey

+1 for the quicke - have a buddy who was looking for a used loader for his NH - got a cracking quicke for around 5k - like new - seems with the rossmore, that its a disaster to fit it to any other tractor other than the one it was first fitted to - something about the brackets being drilled for fitting when the tractor is 'offered up' - the brackets arent pre-drilled .The brackets then only fit that particular tractor, and have to be messed with / bodged if put on a different tractor -- -

iano93

MANSFIELD wrote: »

Buy the quickie if you can a far better loader than the rossmore imo.

A mechanic told me that its a nightmare to work on a tractor that has a rossmore loader plus the features like quick attach and soft ride make the quickie a superb loader

These features are available on all loader brands

Galloways4life

golfcruiser wrote: »

Thinking of putting a Rossmore loader on a John deere tractor. Works out alot cheaper than buying a Quicke or JD loader.

Rossmore has the self levelling, quick attach, shock absorbers and will be sprayed john deere colours..

Anybody any info on what they're like to work with though, reach, handling etc..

Thanks

A Friend of mine on about getting loader aswell....he has a heap of beacons on his JD though... would he need to re-wire any of these if he went fitting a loader ??!
also ... JD551 all the way...rossmore waste a time

golfcruiser

Galloways4life wrote: »

A Friend of mine on about getting loader aswell....he has a heap of beacons on his JD though... would he need to re-wire any of these if he went fitting a loader ??!
also ... JD551 all the way...rossmore waste a time

The price includes a beacon on each side of the loader aswell and the originals won't need re wiring I hope!

Might be better off buying a few 'galloways4life' I reckon

rs8

quickie for me, savage of a loader

Muckit

I can't find a decent youtube link for the quicke showing how its put on and taken off. After strength and visibility, I'd rate this as being very important when I'd be chosing a loader.

The MX seems a great loader in this regard. You only have to get down off the tractor once.

Also I can't understand why loader manufacturers don't fit the hydraulic coupling on the LHS. After all this is the door your using when the joystick is fitted on the RHS mudguard.

valtra8150

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBWYS9VoAMU

Galloways4life

golfcruiser wrote: »

The price includes a beacon on each side of the loader aswell and the originals won't need re wiring I hope!

Might be better off buying a few 'galloways4life' I reckon

ah thats grand so... 42 makes a nice total...you'll drive the cows daft with all them flashing lights and them trying to eat a bit!!

BalingMad

I've a new john Deere 633 loader with self levelling and soft ride. It's a serious loader, v strong and well made. Soft ride is a must if your travelling on roads. I had another 633 loader before this one with no self levelling, pros and cons to both. Self levelling is good for stacking bales, And also makes it easier for taking loader on and off, hard to explain why but it does fact. Other than this the self levelling bars obscures your view and you cannot tilt back your bucket as much with self levelling. Due to this it is much harder to stack hay bales 4 high as I can just barely tilt up the bale that extra bit to stack the forth bale of hay. So if there's a difference in money for Self levelling or not, do without it. Or if you've loads of money get hydraulic self levelling :-)

Muckit

Anyone have a loader controlled with LCS system instead of joystick?

Quicke and I think stoll or trima have them as an option on their new loaders

Nobbies

am thinking about aloader myself,priced arossmore loader yesterday,6000 euro inc vat and fitted by rossmore themselves.a quicke was 8000 i think he said.how about asecond hand 1??being looking on donedeal,not many quicke,s on it.imagine they would have alot of wear on the pin holes especially if the grease gun only worked once ayear or mayb not at all?? :eek: wat do u,zs think of the cables versus the spool valves on older loaders?

island of tighe

i bought a new quicke q35 loader last year.it was 2500 dearer than a rossmore and 1000 dearer than a trima.i find it an excellent loader,the soft drive control on the back of the joystick is very handy.i was going to buy a q45 but i felt it was too big for my tracter which is a new holland ts100a

bob charles

keep an eye on fleabay, have seen some very clean quicke's on there for very reasonable money

JohnBoy

Nobbies wrote: »

wat do u,zs think of the cables versus the spool valves on older loaders?

Cable all the way. takes up infinitely less room and no risk of a hydraulic pipe bursting in the cab.

They can/do get stiff over time but the cables themselves are relatively cheap and straightforward to replace

masseys scrap and zetors no better

im a quicke man myself,rossmore are a dogs dinner of a loader if you ask me.clumsy brackets and no one wants them then when your are trying to sell.quicke are a fantastic loader and very neat tidy brackets.you should price a trima loader,they are owned by quicke and made in the same factory except 1 is sprayed black and a trima sticker stuck on the other grey and a quicke badge stuck on.another way to look at it is,rossmore make rossmore loaders,quicke make trima loaders,mf loaders,valtra loaders and all these manufactuers are then proud enough to stick there name on it

horsesbox

Hi I have a quicke loader but I need a bucket for it anyone have any ideas were I can get one..

BalingMad

http://www.donedeal.ie/silagegrabs-for-sale/bucket/6534056