[CoD MW3] Survival Mode Discussion Thread

yimrsg

Played a little bit of this on my own as my internet was in convulsions and it's good fun, it's remarkably easy to pick up and play and there seems to be a significant amount of depth to it with the masses of unlocks.

This is all from here

Enemies
Light troops armed with Model 1887
Medium troops armed with MP5
Heavy troops armed with AK-47
Commando troops armed with ACR 6.8
Heavy commando troops armed with FAD
Suicide troops armed with USAS-12 and strapped with C4
Dogs
Dogs strapped with C4
Chemical Agents armed with PP90M1 and bags filled with chemicals
Juggernauts armed with a PKP Pecheneg
Recon Juggernauts armed with an AK-47 and a Riot Shield
Bomb squad
Claymore Experts armed with PM-9 and claymores
Little Birds armed with dual Miniguns

Maps
Tier 1 (Easy) - unlocked by default
Resistance
Village
Interchange
Underground

Tier 2 (Regular) - unlocked at lvl 8
Dome
Mission
Seatown
Carbon

Tier 3 (Hard) - unlocked at lvl 15
Bootleg
Hardhat
Fallen
Outpost
Tier 4 (Insane) - unlocked at lvl 25
Lockdown
Arkaden
Downturn
Bakaara

Weapons

Refill Bullet Ammo: Refill for $750, unlocked by default

Assault Rifles

All Assault Rifles cost $3000
M4A1 unlocked by default.
M16A4 unlocked by default. Primary starting weapon on Tier 4 maps with Red Dot Sight.
SCAR-L unlocked at level 5.
ACR 6.8 unlocked at level 14.
AK-47 unlocked at level 24.
FAD unlocked at level 32
G36C unlocked at level 39
CM901 unlocked at level 43
MK14 unlocked at level 47
Type 95 unlocked at level 50

Sub Machine Guns
All Sub-Machine Guns cost $2000
MP5 unlocked by default.
UMP45 unlocked at level 4
MP7 unlocked at level 13
PM-9 unlocked at level 23
PP90M1 unlocked at level 38
P90 unlocked at level 46

Light Machine Guns
All Light Machine Guns cost $7000
M60E4 unlocked at level 12
PKP Pecheneg unlocked at level 18
MK46 unlocked at level 34
L86 LSW unlocked at level 41
MG36 unlocked at level 48

Shotguns
Model 1887 for $2000, unlocked by default.
USAS-12 for $2000, unlocked at level 6.
SPAS-12 for $2000, unlocked at level 16
KSG-12 for $2000, unlocked at level 26
Striker for $4000, unlocked at level 33
AA-12 for $5000, unlocked at level 44

Sniper Rifles
All Sniper Rifles cost $2000
MSR unlocked at level 7
Dragunov unlocked at level 16
RSASS unlocked a level 29
L118A unlocked at level 35
AS50 unlocked at level 42
Barrett .50cal unlocked at level 49

Handguns
All Handguns cost $250
Five seven unlocked by default. Secondary starting weapon on tier 1 and tier 4 maps.
USP. 45 unlocked by default. starting weapon on tier 2 maps.
MP412 unlocked at level 2, starting weapon on tier 3 maps
Desert Eagle unlocked at level 11
.44 Magnum unlocked at level 20
P99 unlocked at level 40

Machine Pistols
All Machine Pistols cost $1500
G18, unlocked by default
Skorpion, unlocked at lvl 3
MP9, unlocked at lvl 17
FMG9, unlocked at lvl 37

Attachments
Scope Attachemnts
Holographic Sight for $1000, unlocked by default
Red Dot Sight for $750, unlocked at lvl 7
ACOG Scope for $1250, unlocked at lvl 30
Under-barrel Attachments
Grip for $750, unlocked at lvl 19
Grenade Launcher for $1500, unlocked at lvl 28
Shotgun for $1500, unlocked at lvl 45

Equipment Armory
Frag Grenade Refill for $750, unlocked by default
Flashbang Refill for $1000, unlocked by default
Claymore x5 for $1000 (10 Max), unlocked at lvl 2
C4 x5 for $1500 (10 Max), unlocked at lvl 3
RPG-7 x2 for $2000 (4 Max), unlocked at lvl 27
Sentry Gun for $3000, unlocked at lvl 17
Sentry Grenade Launcher for $4000, unlocked at lvl 31
Body Armor for $2000, unlocked at lvl 10
Self Revive for $4000, unlocked at lvl 12
Riot Shield for $3000, unlocked at lvl 37

Air Support Armory
Predator Missile for $2500
Air Strike for $2500, unlocked at lvl 4
Delta Squad for $3000, unlocked at lvl 14
Riot Shield Squad for $5000, unlocked at lvl 21

Perk Care Package
Quickdraw for $3000, unlocked by default
Steady Aim for $3000, unlocked at lvl 8
Stalker for $4000, unlocked at lvl 22
Extreme Conditioning for $4000, unlocked at lvl 36
Sleight of Hand for $5000, unlocked at lvl 50

From only playing a few times on my own the lmgs are vital for choppers and juggernauts as you need to reload multiple times with assault rifles or smgs which can be costly. Don't get caught out like I was facing a pair of little birds with a shotgun and a pistol! Armour is also important as without it your screen blurs when shot causing you to miss shots but it goes very quickly. When facing the suicide troops try killing them near groups of enemies so they're caught in the blast, flash grenades or a few well placed rounds to the legs can get a rid of a group of 4 or 5 in one fell swoop. On some of the tougher levels you face juggernauts and choppers simultaneously so having either a predator or delta squad is vital. I noticed Delta squad succumb fairly easily to dogs but were grand against normal soldiers. I think it's a case that open maps are best suited for preds and air support and covered maps for riot shields and delta squads.

Self revive is also very important especially as a solo player. Also perks come in care packages so if you buy a perk you have to call it in and then collect it. Be aware that the perk care package occupies the space for air support so having one means going without the other. I'm not sure on the max number of perks you can have at once.

Make maximum use of the breaks between rounds as you'll be collecting ammo from fallen enemies and running to the various armouries to pick up goodies. You can make crawlers but they only stay alive for a short while so you only get a few extra seconds of respite. Another thing is that you're scores you achieve offline don't get saved (on xbox anyway) so you have to be connected to xbox live or psn to have a score saved.

minidazzler

Getting into games with randoms if absolutely horrendous, takes about 3-5 minutes of searching on the Tier 1 maps, and about 2.5 for dome. Very annoying.

KERSPLAT!

Played earlier for a while, did decent enough. Might try get a boardsie for co-op tomorrow

Spike2010

Yeah it's pretty good. Think i got to level 24 or something on one of the maps gets hard though.

CORaven

You can only have self revive and one other perk at a time.

minidazzler

IPAM wrote: »

Played earlier for a while, did decent enough. Might try get a boardsie for co-op tomorrow

I should be on later this evening I think, would be better playing with someone who actually communicates so I can get past wave 24.

sssssiiiiimon

I'm absolutely loving the survival mode. Got to level 26 on resistance and 24 or 25 on village.

Sentry guns rock. Plus assault riffles are so much better than lmg's.

Maybe we can start sharing techniques on each map here.

duiggers

I was sad to see zombies gone until I played this.

Tip: Don't use sniper rifles against juggernauts, just pump bullets into them with ARs, or predator missile their arse

sssssiiiiimon

Gotta lov the delta team with the riot shields. Can't wait to play some tonight.

AH92

Got to wave 38 on underground was rock hard!! If anyone wants a game just pm me

Marcioneri

hey guys
i just want to know if you guys are having problems with the grip in the survival mode. i unlocked it but i can't use.

Am really looking forward to this. Haven't played it yet, i just finished the campaign, but it sounds like it has the potential to be as good as or better than Gears 3 Horde mode or Halo Reach's Firefight.

CORaven

Marcioneri wrote: »

hey guys
i just want to know if you guys are having problems with the grip in the survival mode. i unlocked it but i can't use.

For what gun?

daveyid89

I find its missing something that could make it great. The delta and riot squads are cool but half the time they get wiped out before they get into a defensible position, or they follow me when I go searching for supplies inbetween rounds and then they get caught in the open and wiped out.

If you could issue orders it would be much better, but its not really cod's style I suppose.

RGDATA!

agree about the delta squads. they do help if you're holding down an area, but even just to be able to turn on/off whether they follow you on the fly would be great

finding the Striker handy in this. you have to buy it and pay for the ammo obviously but with the large mags it's so good for racking up quick streaks in the early rounds that it pays for itself quickly.

best of all it murders juggernauts - one stun and you can get a full clip into them and they're down or as good as

I played this mode for the first time last night. It's a lot of fun, but i just don't understand the decision to make it 2 player only.

The whole point of a mode like this is teamwork and getting a strategy together, and each person having different loadouts and specialisms, and being responsible for mopping up certain types of threats etc. You have a wealth of options in terms of upgrades and loadouts here, but there's just not enough manpower to get a decent team strategy together which would make it really really fun.

The map i played on was the first one, in paris, i think it was called resistance. I don't know if that's overly large compared to the rest, as i havent played them yet, but it had massive possibilities for tower defence games. The large number of loadouts, air support, and explosives and weapons options on it could have meant a wealth of different possibilities for great gameplay, but because there was only 2 of us, and quite a large number of AI enemies to deal with, we just camped in the bombed out house with shotguns and claymores, mined the 2 approach paths, and milled everybody out of it with predators and air strikes.

We got to about level 20 or so with that strategy i think, but i just had a sense that it was missing out on some epicness. For all the tech options the game offered us, no matter what we tried, the lack of manpower meant that camping always turned out to be the best strategy. I would have loved to have been holding that main square with a team of four guys instead.

Still, it's definitely worth a spin. The spec ops mode has taken up more of my time than anything else so far in this game, and it looks like survival has the potential to add more replay value to what is already a very decent package.

FutureGuy

How many levels are in survival games? I've gotten to 25-30 on the ones I have played.

gimli2112

FutureGuy wrote: »

How many levels are in survival games? I've gotten to 25-30 on the ones I have played.

Presume it just keeps on going till you die like in Zombies.

Stopped playing solo 'cos I always get a little sad when the last of my riot shield guys dies. Typically getting killed trying to save an NPC.

FutureGuy

FutureGuy wrote: »

How many levels are in survival games? I've gotten to 25-30 on the ones I have played.

It's infinite as far as i know. It just keeps going until it wipes you both out, or you starve, or your missus gives out sh1te to you and tells you to come to bed 'cos it's 5 in the morning ( that's the most likely outcome, for me anyways)

RGDATA! wrote: »

finding the Striker handy in this. you have to buy it and pay for the ammo obviously but with the large mags it's so good for racking up quick streaks in the early rounds that it pays for itself quickly.

I like sticking with the weapons that the AI are using in these kind of games as much as i can, and maybe buying a decent assault rifle occasionally if I'm stuck. You'll never run out of ammo if you're comfortable with using what the AI is using, and you can save your cash for the really cool stuff like air strikes etc.

I think buying a a predator missile and aiming it into the middle of the biggest bunch of hostiles you can find, and then wiping out the rest of them with their dead friends' guns is a WAY cooler way to get a killstreak than spending your money on fancy automatic shotguns!

Finno59

the highest i got so far was 25 in resistance, i was in the house in the middle of the map but im gonna try the bookshop house at the edge of the map next. It seems from watching on u tube they tend to only come the one way and u can plant loads of claymores the other way to take them out. I was wondering does anyone use the rpgs for choppers. how many does it take to bring them down?

KERSPLAT!

I always stay above the arch on that map, between the ammo and granade supply, claymore/sentry gun pointing at "C" flag, claymores, C4 and me looking towards the stairs at "a" flag. Got to 27

Nuri Sahin

Gotten to round 30 on Solo on Resistance before getting tired and turning it off. Probably would have lasted another round or two I reckon. Highest on Insane difficulty is 22 with hypermuse, think it was on Bakaara but we were going for the PS3 trophies - last to round 10 and then 15 in each survival map. Round 15 onwards, and I don't think we were really fussed. Could have lasted longer if we really bothered as with most of the maps in fairness. Neither of us used a headset too which would have been dead handy in the later rounds.

Bootleg by far the worst map for survival, Arakden also deserves a mention in that regards

hypermuse

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

Is it possible to complete tier 4 solo? Anyone do it?

If by complete you mean get to level 15 then yea.. just find a good strategy for each map and stick to it!

I've found survival to be great fun and if I'm honest.. prefer it to MP..


My strategy is generally (not saying its the best strategy) as follows:

• 1st few rounds.. only ever use enemy pick up weapons (practically infinite ammo), and use that 1st shotgun alot.. its great!

• Kill 1st and 2nd jug with just my guns.. (buying ammo is necessary but only cost 750credits which is cheaper than air support)

• 1st and 2nd round of choppers, again use ammo.. few clips from guns you pick up will take care of them just make sure your not stuck with a shotgun (again buy ammo after only 750credit)

• For taking out Jugs later on in the game I always use c4.. If you run around the map tactically you should be able to group them together.. Get them close and lay down 5 c4 on a corner.. as soon as they walk around the corner BOOM.. you may need one or 2 more but 5 is enough if you get them bang on with it! (also try to set C4 near cars as blasts from cars etc will help damage the jugs who are susceptible to explosive damage) again C4 is quite cheap so it costs you less credits than using air support to take them out

• By using the above tactics and being sensible with the way you spend credits you can afford to almost constantly have a riot shield squad and self revive when playing.. You can afford a sentry gun also, these are brilliant and essential to holding down a specific area! you know it'll protect a certain flank for you and if you hear your man say its gone then you can start worrying bout enemies coming from that direction

• I never/rarely buy body armor as I feel you can take more than enough damage to get out of a hairy situation quickly! also a self revive is only 4000 credits and body armor 2000.. but if you end up having to buy body armor every 2/3rd round then your just spending more than necessary!

• Always have flash grenades.. brilliant for getting out of a tight spot tbh!

on a side note.. If you use c4 to take out jugs.. be careful if your playing co-op! amount of times I've taken out a team mate with c4 is unreal! sorry Ade

gimli2112

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

I got everythin done but downturn. That map is a mess!

Found Downturn ok tbh. 2 of us downstairs with sentries pointed up the map and me and mate (and riot shield teams) camping the entrances on each side.

I liked survival at the start but I've gone off it a bit. Definately played zombies a lot lot more.

hypermuse

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

I got everythin done but downturn. That map is a mess!

Yea downturn is just a messy map! Thank god on MP no1 votes for it!!

For survival I found the upstairs part to be the best place to hold down! Three doors to cover.. get a sentry gun on one and your sorted. plus you got the air support crate right there beside ya if things get too hairy!

Nuri Sahin

Yeah upstairs of the main hall is the best place to hold down alright. Anywhere else and you're fairly screwed. Tis a trek to the equipment armoury though. I think me and hypermuse got to round 19(?) before kinda easing off, likewise the rest of the Insane difficulty ones except for Bakaara which was actually quite easy.

Nuri Sahin

Clearly I missed out on something with the Arms Dealer trophy/achievement. No idea what though -_-

mackg

Seatown and bakaara are probably my favorites, got to 45 on seatown, the juggernauts just sprint at that point and take some baitin. You know your in trouble when a pred won't kill a chopper

hypermuse

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

Clearly I missed out on something with the Arms Dealer trophy/achievement. No idea what though -_-

same happened to me so just started again and bout 1/4 of the way through bang.. achievement unlocked!

I bought all the attachments for all the guns but obviously missed a gun somewhere me thinks!

Nuri Sahin

hypermuse wrote: »

same happened to me so just started again and bout 1/4 of the way through bang.. achievement unlocked!

I bought all the attachments for all the guns but obviously missed a gun somewhere me thinks!

Aye, I'll start it again soon. Probably next week though. Tis a bit time consuming. Effort!

mackg wrote: »

Seatown and bakaara are probably my favorites, got to 45 on seatown, the juggernauts just sprint at that point and take some baitin. You know your in trouble when a pred won't kill a chopper

****ing hell, fair play! Myself and some hobo by the name of Eric got to round 22 in Bakaara, but attention span kinda went at that stage. Felt we could easily get to round 30.

mackg

Broke 50 on seatown into the top 2000 in the leaderboards. Full ar clip to kill a guy, nearly half to kill a dog, claymores ****ing everywhere.