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Luke ‘Ming’ Flanagan wears hemp suit in the Dáil

  • 10-11-2011 9:46am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=luke%20ming%20flanagan%20hemp%20suit&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBsQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thejournal.ie%2Fluke-ming-flanagan-wears-hemp-suit-in-the-dail-275244-Nov2011%2F&ei=H5y7TuHlHNGHhQfi4syhBw&usg=AFQjCNHJUcmBxV7_jE5aoO06bcXb-k5B4A

    LUKE ‘MING’ FLANAGAN wore a Louis Copeland suit made out of hemp in the Dáil chamber this morning to highlight the 10 year anniversary of his campaign to have cannabis legalised.
    A spokesperson for Louis Copeland confirmed that it was the first time the high-end tailor had created a suit made out of hemp.
    Speaking to theJournal.ie, the TD for Roscommon-Leitrim South said that he had bought the material outside of Ireland but that the suit had been made in Dublin. “If I could have purchased it here, I would have,” he said.
    The hemp suit is “very comfortable, excellent material, and it’ll be my attire for many an occasion from now on,” said the TD.
    Flanagan said that it is ten years since he posted joints to journalists and members of the Oireachtas as part of a National Legalise Cannabis Day – but that little has changed.
    “In the 10 years that have passed, it is estimated that €7.5 billion has ended up in the pockets of the kind of people who had Veronica Guerin killed. 60,000 people have ended up with a criminal record and for what? What was the goal?”
    “The idea was to reduce usage – that hasn’t happened. It was supposed to make life safer for people – that hasn’t happened”.
    Flanagan emphasised the specific issue of cannabis being sold with adulterated substances which are seriously harmful to the health of the user, noting that silicon, crushed up car tyres and “God knows what” is being added to cannabis. “Someone found dealing the substance with these adulterants in it should receive a stricter sentence”, he said.
    Flanagan, who gave up smoking cannabis several years ago, said that the best way to guarantee that people know what kind of cannabis they have is to legalise it.
    Flanagan will be modelling the suit at a fashion in show in Dún Laoghaire on Thursday evening in aid of the National Maritime Museum of Ireland. Fellow independent TDs Mick Wallace and Richard Boyd-Barrett will also be taking part in the show.


    Well do you think that suited him and did all the joints go together or is he just blowing hot air ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    Hemp is fantastic for clothing! i had a few tshirts made from it. Really comfy and light. Its a very useful "weed".

    its the gift that keeps on giving really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Picture-103.png?f22064

    Picture of LMF in suit ;-)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    sounds like hot air to me... there's a hemp shop on capel st in town. surely he could of gone there and gotten a jumper?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    I used to have a bit of respect for him standing up for what he believed in but he was investigated and said he wouldn't smoke weed again...

    Now we don't pay his wages so he can get custom tailored Louis Copeland suits made of hemp so he can prove a point like a 15 year old who hasn't got what they want.

    Ming, it's illegal so get over it ffs and stop trying to fight the system. Quit the stupid games and get on with business. At this stage you're acting like a fkn loser stoner!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    realies wrote: »
    Picture-103.png?f22064

    Picture of LMF in suit ;-)

    He's looking very snazzy!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    He is trying to DRAG this out in the dail :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭bijapos


    Hemp (not to be confudes with "cannabis hemp") is a great substance and one that is totally undercultivated in Ireland. It grows very well here and hemp can be used for all sorts, paper, cloth, plaster, insulation etc. Its just the outraged joe Duffy type lunatic here that makes it unacceptable to be farmed here in commercial amounts.

    To be fair to Flanagan he is right about legalising cannabis here, its just a pity no government has the balls to back him up on it. Several countries and states have legalised it in various ways and we should look at them and learn from them.

    Anything that takes cash out of the pockets of the McCarthy-Dundon scum and their cohorts is to be welcomed but the prevailing attitude is that a vocal minority as witnessed in the Liveline Head Shop incident will usually win out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    There may well be blow-back from this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    smash wrote: »
    I used to have a bit of respect for him standing up for what he believed in but he was investigated and said he wouldn't smoke weed again...

    Now we don't pay his wages so he can get custom tailored Louis Copeland suits made of hemp so he can prove a point like a 15 year old who hasn't got what they want.

    Ming, it's illegal so get over it ffs and stop trying to fight the system. Quit the stupid games and get on with business. At this stage you're acting like a fkn loser stoner!

    he's fighting for what he believes in, losers don't do that.. they just get over it ffs and stop trying to fight the system...

    cannabis is big business and he's one of the few (if not the only one) TDs that actually see the upside of it being legal...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    smash wrote: »
    I used to have a bit of respect for him standing up for what he believed in but he was investigated and said he wouldn't smoke weed again...

    Now we don't pay his wages so he can get custom tailored Louis Copeland suits made of hemp so he can prove a point like a 15 year old who hasn't got what they want.

    Ming, it's illegal so get over it ffs and stop trying to fight the system. Quit the stupid games and get on with business. At this stage you're acting like a fkn loser stoner!

    What? :confused::confused:

    Im not sure what you want him to do, do you want him to smoke weed get a criminal record and be removed from the dail?

    At one point divorce, getting information about abortion from your Gp, contraception and oh homosexuality were illegal in Ireland. should the campaigners for them have taken your approach and said ah sure its illegal lets give up?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭bijapos


    smash wrote: »
    Ming, it's illegal so get over it ffs and stop trying to fight the system. Quit the stupid games and get on with business. At this stage you're acting like a fkn loser stoner!


    Cannabis is illegal, but to be fair to Flanagan is campaigning peacefully to have it legalised. Its not the first time this has happened in Ireland.

    Contaception was illegal but it didn't stop women going peacefully (and illegally) to the north to buy them back in the 70's.

    Homosexuality was illegal, it didn't stop David Norris admitting to being one and campaigning peacefully to have it decrimminalised in the 80's.

    The suit is not illegal, its made out of standard hemp which contains virtually no THC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭rambutman


    smash wrote: »
    I used to have a bit of respect for him standing up for what he believed in but he was investigated and said he wouldn't smoke weed again...

    Now we don't pay his wages so he can get custom tailored Louis Copeland suits made of hemp so he can prove a point like a 15 year old who hasn't got what they want.

    Ming, it's illegal so get over it ffs and stop trying to fight the system. Quit the stupid games and get on with business. At this stage you're acting like a fkn loser stoner!

    Are you taking the p1ss?

    Is it not up to him to spend HIS wages as he sees fit? Hemp clothing is not illegal.

    If we all lay down and took what the system dished out to us with no one trying to push the boundaries the world would be a worse place (think homosexuality laws in Ireland - "don't try and change the laws guys(girls) -it's illegal, just get over it")

    Maybe he gave up toking in the first place because "the cause" might be taken more seriously then - "legalize weed" (IMHO) has more impact coming from a politician who doesn't toot rather than one who does................"ah sure he's just saying that cos he likes to get stoned himself"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    smash wrote: »
    I used to have a bit of respect for him standing up for what he believed in but he was investigated and said he wouldn't smoke weed again...

    Now we don't pay his wages so he can get custom tailored Louis Copeland suits made of hemp so he can prove a point like a 15 year old who hasn't got what they want.

    Ming, it's illegal so get over it ffs and stop trying to fight the system. Quit the stupid games and get on with business. At this stage you're acting like a fkn loser stoner!

    Retarded post is stupid.

    He's fighting for it in the way he has to, he is an elected member of the Dáil and while a lot of those cnuts like to flout the laws he is obeying them but still trying to change them. I personally don't think he should have given up weed, and even doubt he did, but he is at least trying because he can think logically and critically unlike the rest of the twats there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭McCruiskeen


    smash wrote: »
    I used to have a bit of respect for him standing up for what he believed in but he was investigated and said he wouldn't smoke weed again...

    Now we don't pay his wages so he can get custom tailored Louis Copeland suits made of hemp so he can prove a point like a 15 year old who hasn't got what they want.

    Ming, it's illegal so get over it ffs and stop trying to fight the system. Quit the stupid games and get on with business. At this stage you're acting like a fkn loser stoner!

    Oh, yeah so people should never try and fight or change the system. The system and the world is perfect and always will be for eternity:rolleyes:

    We need more people like you in this world


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Apart from Holland or Jamaica is there another country where you can legally walk into a shop and buy a spliff? Or are all the other countries just legalising medical cannabis?
    rambutman wrote: »
    Is it not up to him to spend HIS wages as he sees fit? Hemp clothing is not illegal.
    I know hemp clothing is not illegal, it's the fact he could have got any suit made but he chose hemp to make a silly point.

    people need to stop comparing contraception, divorce or homosexuality to the legalisation of weed btw. These matters bear no resemblance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    smash wrote: »
    Apart from Holland or Jamaica is there another country where you can legally walk into a shop and buy a spliff? Or are all the other countries just legalising medical cannabis?


    California has very liberal laws on cannabis afaik


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    smash wrote: »
    Apart from Holland or Jamaica is there another country where you can legally walk into a shop and buy a spliff? Or are all the other countries just legalising medical cannabis?

    Well its not legal in jamaica firstly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    smash wrote: »
    Now we don't pay his wages so he can get custom tailored Louis Copeland suits made of hemp so he can prove a point like a 15 year old who hasn't got what they want.
    Are you saying that we should dictate what a TD decides to spend his own salary on?

    Also IIRC, he pledged to use half of that salary to give to local projects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Could he not spring for the hemp tie?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 17,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Das Kitty


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    He's looking very snazzy!

    It's a lovely suit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    smash wrote: »
    Apart from Holland or Jamaica is there another country where you can legally walk into a shop and buy a spliff? Or are all the other countries just legalising medical cannabis?
    Do you actually have a clue what you're on about?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    phasers wrote: »
    Could he not spring for the hemp tie?
    Only squares wear ties, man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Yeah, California has it legalised for medicinal use, with "medicinal" used in the loosest sense possible. Between 0.5% and 1% of Californians buy it legally for "medicinal" use.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Do you actually have a clue what you're on about?

    Do you? Has anyone sat down and thought about it?

    Because really I don't care if people smoke weed. But he's trying to fight to legalise something which seriously impairs people. Having a spliff is not like having a pint, it's more like having a half nagin of vodka and a sleeping pill.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Wouldn't be the first time drugs have been found in the building - but previously the matter was quietly dropped with previous leaders refusing to investigate!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    smash wrote: »
    Do you? Has anyone sat down and thought about it?

    Because really I don't care if people smoke weed. But he's trying to fight to legalise something which seriously impairs people. Having a spliff is not like having a pint, it's more like having a half nagin of vodka and a sleeping pill.


    It's clear from your posts that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    al28283 wrote: »
    It's clear from your posts that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

    And why is that then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    smash wrote: »
    Do you? Has anyone sat down and thought about it?

    Because really I don't care if people smoke weed. But he's trying to fight to legalise something which seriously impairs people. Having a spliff is not like having a pint, it's more like having a half nagin of vodka and a sleeping pill.

    Is it any wonder this relatively innocuous and useful little plant is illegal.

    oh despair


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    smash wrote: »
    Because really I don't care if people smoke weed. But he's trying to fight to legalise something which seriously impairs people. Having a spliff is not like having a pint, it's more like having a half nagin of vodka and a sleeping pill.
    That depends on the person, surely?

    In much the same way that a 15-year-old will be half pissed on a single pint.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    smash wrote: »
    Do you? Has anyone sat down and thought about it?

    Because really I don't care if people smoke weed. But he's trying to fight to legalise something which seriously impairs people. Having a spliff is not like having a pint, it's more like having a half nagin of vodka and a sleeping pill.

    :D:D funny post - thanks Smash.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    smash wrote: »
    Do you? Has anyone sat down and thought about it?

    Because really I don't care if people smoke weed. But he's trying to fight to legalise something which seriously impairs people. Having a spliff is not like having a pint, it's more like having a half nagin of vodka and a sleeping pill.

    Please leave this thread, you have no idea and are spouting absolute rubbish now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭eire.man


    smash wrote: »
    Apart from Holland or Jamaica is there another country where you can legally walk into a shop and buy a spliff? Or are all the other countries just legalising medical cannabis?


    I know hemp clothing is not illegal, it's the fact he could have got any suit made but he chose hemp to make a silly point.

    people need to stop comparing contraception, divorce or homosexuality to the legalisation of weed btw. These matters bear no resemblance.

    oh my fcuking sanity!!! you trolling mother'...

    you obviously haven't a clue what you're talking about so please stop posting here b4 I had a stroke!! is it Mings use of natural instead of synthetic fibres that's annoying you?

    yes the contraception and all other examples are more than relevant!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Only squares wear ties, man.



    And people from athy :D:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭Mazeire


    It would be nice if he used his influence for something you know, that actually matters istead of continually pushing his same tired agenda. He was strangely quiet during the debate on the closure of Roscommon Hospital and isn't he from there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    What's the problem? so he's wearing a hemp suit, big deal. Just cause the hemp plant is associated with cannabis doesn't mean he can light up the sleeve of his suit in the Jacks and have a great time.

    Hemp is one of the fastest growing biomasses in the world and is been used more and more in the clothing industry, if I'm not mistaken certain big chain retail stores here in Ireland have hemp clothing (not advertised but look at the labels). It is one of the most durable fabrics and is lightweight but also like an insulator so it keeps you warm in winter and cool in summer.

    I'm sure TD Ming wears cotton suits all the time but I don't hear anyone shouting he's a racist because of it's deep south connection back in the day and with all the Brits wearing Poppies this season, don't hear anyone shouting about the Opium connections there.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭eire.man


    smash wrote: »
    Do you? Has anyone sat down and thought about it?

    Because really I don't care if people smoke weed. But he's trying to fight to legalise something which seriously impairs people. Having a spliff is not like having a pint, it's more like having a half nagin of vodka and a sleeping pill.

    I sit down, smoke and think about it each and everyday since 1997!!

    you are talking out of your hole big time!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭rambutman


    smash wrote: »
    Having a spliff is not like having a pint, it's more like having a half nagin of vodka and a sleeping pill.

    Are you for real? Or if you are and do in fact know what you're talking about - i need to meet your dealer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Biggins wrote: »
    Wouldn't be the first time drugs have been found in the building - but previously the matter was quietly dropped with previous leaders refusing to investigate!


    Really Biggins can you tell us more ? Dont tell some of them were chasing the dragon around there or is this what they mean when you say you get a high from being elected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I dont think hemp suits should be legal -

    I'd be afraid that the cemicals would pass through his suit and get me 'high'.

    I remember one time some anti social people were smoking marijuana on the back of the bus. I felt 'out of it', I just wanted to strip off all my clothes and run naked up and down the bus, I could only imagine how dangerous it would be to actually take a puff off a cannabis cigarette!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    smash wrote: »
    And why is that then?


    Probably because you don't know very much about the subject


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭eire.man


    Mazeire wrote: »
    It would be nice if he used his influence for something you know, that actually matters istead of continually pushing his same tired agenda. He was strangely quiet during the debate on the closure of Roscommon Hospital and isn't he from there?

    he was not love!! if you care to add him on facebook you will be kept regularlyinformed as to when, where and what he's talking about!!

    please don't make accusations you pulled out of thin air!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    eire.man wrote: »
    oh my fcuking sanity!!! you trolling mother'...
    :rolleyes:
    eire.man wrote: »
    you obviously haven't a clue what you're talking about so please stop posting here b4 I had a stroke!!
    Yea I have a clue, but hey if you haven't grown up since you were 17 and you're still a stoner then come on and enlighten me.
    eire.man wrote: »
    is it Mings use of natural instead of synthetic fibres that's annoying you?
    It's his "I'm going to get a suit made of hemp to prove my point about weed" tht annoys me.
    eire.man wrote: »
    yes the contraception and all other examples are more than relevant!!
    No they're not because you're confusing human rights issues with recreational drug usage.
    al28283 wrote: »
    Probably because you don't know very much about the subject
    What do I not know about it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    realies wrote: »
    Really Biggins can you tell us more ? Dont tell some of them were chasing the dragon around there or is this what they mean when you say you get a high from being elected.

    I believe it was cocaine found on the toilet seats perhaps, definetly cocaine though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    realies wrote: »
    Really Biggins can you tell us more ? Dont tell some of them were chasing the dragon around there or is this what they mean when you say you get a high from being elected.

    He is probably talking about this

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/cweyeysnmhau/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    smash wrote: »
    :rolleyes:


    It's his "I'm going to get a suit made of hemp to prove my point about weed" tht annoys me.

    You're getting annoyed by the material some guys suit is made of. Take a minute to think about that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭eire.man


    realies wrote: »
    Really Biggins can you tell us more ? Dont tell some of them were chasing the dragon around there or is this what they mean when you say you get a high from being elected.

    toilets tested for cocaine residue and they all showed up positive if I remember correctly!!

    but that's ok cos it was Berties time and anything went for the inner circle then and the same today too I reckon!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    al28283 wrote: »
    You're getting annoyed by the material some guys suit is made of. Take a minute to think about that.

    Yes, the same type of person who was annoyed when he didn't wear a suit, you just can't please them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭8k2q1gfcz9s5d4


    smash wrote: »
    Istop trying to fight the system

    isnt that the whole purpose if the opposition?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    al28283 wrote: »
    You're getting annoyed by the material some guys suit is made of. Take a minute to think about that.

    It's only because of his push to legalise weed that I find it annoying. That's also why it's in the news.

    isnt that the whole purpose if the opposition?
    There's fighting for a cause for the greater good like a politician is supposed to and then there's fighting to legalise a hobby to get stoned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭Mazeire


    eire.man wrote: »
    he was not love!! if you care to add him on facebook QUOTE]

    I don't care to. Can you tell me what it was he did?


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