6000 Calories in 3 meals?

qvsr46ofgc792k

I need to be eating 6000+ calories a day but with my current schedule eating every 2 hours or so is not possible. So after a google search I have found out that many people eat 2000 calories per meal x 3 meals. The unfortunate thing is though, no one explains what they are eating per meal.

So is anyone currently eating like this or has eat like this and would have a good meal plan? I do not need to eat clean, my only issue is with dairy (i know), so milk is a defo non no.

Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers

vibe666

3x mcdonalds?

it worked for the guy in supersize me.

on a serious note, i think you need to be giving more details on why you want/need to consume 6000 calories a day, i.e. for what purpose, is it bodybuilding or are you just really skinny, or is there a medical condition that requires it etc?

Hanley

TONNES of high fat sauces, lots and lots of beef, tonnes of eggs, lots of peanut butter.

Unless you're up to your eyeballs, or an elite long distance athlete, 6,000kcals is probably WAY too much.

why do you need 6000 calories per day may I ask?

Are you simply trying to get as much cals in as possible for a bulk / competition etc?

It will be tough to physically eat that much without forcing yourself to stay there and keep eating long after you are full.

I realise you say you can't eat 6 meals or whatever, but 100g of nuts is worth 600 cals, add a protein shake with 100ml of double cream and 200ml of full fat milk would be another 600 cals. This wouldn't really feel like a meal, but is an extra 1.2 kcal over the course of the day and is pretty do-able as a snack.

High Calorie dense foods are things like oils, nuts, milk instead of water constantly, extremely fatty cuts of meat, butter, cheeses (though hard to eat an awful lot from experience!). You can also get loads of calories from horribly unhealthy sources like bars and bars of low quality chocolate, breads.

Peanut Butter is great too, 454g jar contains about 2.75kcals, and give yourself a spoon and a bit of time and you can get through a jar a day. You'll want to be eating an awful lot of omega 3 to counteract the omega 5s though.

this is a great list of calorie dense foods.
http://allwomenstalk.com/high-calorie-food-list-get-fat-fast/

I'd prefer if you could reason why you need to eat so much before you took the advice above though.

CardinalJ

Serenity Fierce Ham wrote: »

why do you need 6000 calories per day may I ask?

Are you simply trying to get as much cals in as possible for a bulk / competition etc?

It will be tough to physically eat that much without forcing yourself to stay there and keep eating long after you are full.

I realise you say you can't eat 6 meals or whatever, but 100g of nuts is worth 600 cals, add a protein shake with 100ml of double cream and 200ml of full fat milk would be another 600 cals. This wouldn't really feel like a meal, but is an extra 1.2 kcal over the course of the day and is pretty do-able as a snack.

High Calorie dense foods are things like oils, nuts, milk instead of water constantly, extremely fatty cuts of meat, butter, cheeses (though hard to eat an awful lot from experience!). You can also get loads of calories from horribly unhealthy sources like bars and bars of low quality chocolate, breads.

Peanut Butter is great too, 454g jar contains about 2.75kcals, and give yourself a spoon and a bit of time and you can get through a jar a day. You'll want to be eating an awful lot of omega 3 to counteract the omega 5s though.

this is a great list of calorie dense foods.
http://allwomenstalk.com/high-calorie-food-list-get-fat-fast/

I'd prefer if you could reason why you need to eat so much before you took the advice above though.

I had to do 6000kcal when I was rowing in college and this is almost exactly what I did. Very hard to keep doing it though.

Tubs of ice cream were also 'good' as you didn't feel as full after.

Just make sure you eat loads of nuts for fibre to keep it all moving.

qvsr46ofgc792k

Thanks for the replies.
The reason for the 6000 calories is that I am going to be playing a boxer in an upcoming film role, which films next year. So I have been bulking up the past couple of months and have dropped all cardio to help speed up the process. I have gone from about 11 stone to just under 13. I still need to get to about 14 and a half stone by about February but now the boxing training has started and as you know there is a lot of cardio in boxing. So I worked it out and I feel to keep me on track I need to be getting in at least 6K calories.
Now I am no expert in diet and Nutrition so any advice is appreciated.

I don't begrudge you the task. You will spend an awful lot of time trying not to throw up.

Try get as many un-obvious calories in as possible. Bags of nuts, babybel cheeses, bowls of double cream with angel delight for dessert.

Have 5 egg/60g cheese omellete with bacon, sausages and beans for breakfast. Pint of Milk with the meal too.
eat 100g of cashew nuts and have a protein shake with double cream and full fat milk by lunch time.
lunch of 2 homemade burritos with ~ 200g of Mince beef, and a green salad swimming in an oily dressing.
Another 100g cashew nuts and another protein shake/angel delight concoction to get more double cream into you.
Dinner of another fatty bit of meat, some pork belly strips and plenty of cheesey vegetables.

Should put you around 5.5/6k kcals per day. An awful awful lot of food!

Zamboni

Virginia Nutritious Pennon wrote: »

Thanks for the replies.
The reason for the 6000 calories is that I am going to be playing a boxer in an upcoming film role, which films next year. So I have been bulking up the past couple of months and have dropped all cardio to help speed up the process. I have gone from about 11 stone to just under 13. I still need to get to about 14 and a half stone by about February but now the boxing training has started and as you know there is a lot of cardio in boxing. So I worked it out and I feel to keep me on track I need to be getting in at least 6K calories.
Now I am no expert in diet and Nutrition so any advice is appreciated.

Make sure your training is spot on or you'll just be a fat boxer.
Best of luck and as Joey would advise, play the boxer gay.

rubadub

As mentioned nuts are ideal, I have been known to polish 500g bags off while drinking. That is over 3,000kcal right there. Bread is high too, peanut butter sandwhiches washed down with whole milk will be easy calories. Whole milk is ~640kcal per litre, you will easily get 2L down you per day. (EDIT: only see the no dairy bit now)

vibe666 wrote: »

3x mcdonalds?

I know you were joking but mcdonalds are relatively low in calories compared to other takeaways. This is part of the reason you hear people complain about being hungry again after a while.

Some ones I estimated

rubadub wrote: »

Bag of chips from Italian chipper 455g

Going off mc-cains site their premium chips are 253kcal and 7.2g fat sat per 100g

So 1,151kcal and 33g sat fat so 24.5points for the bag.
http://points.ogo.ms/

There is an interview with the italian chipper association guys on youtube, one guy said they used lard, another said a typical fish & chips has about 800kcal! no way in hell!

Just back from the Chinese now, chips weighing in at 395g, so 853kcal, 4.3g sat fat, so 13.5 points. Again that is conservative using the McCains figures which are probably lower than usual to appear lower in cals.

I got a rogan josh from letseatin, combined weight of rice and lamb & sauce was 960g, over twice what most ready meals would be.

My usual was chicken balls, curry sauce, chips (I know not chinese!).

I got it and it weighed loads, always did. So I got home and weighed each to see what I used to be eating.
Chips- 520g (no joke! my scales is fine)
Chicken balls- 350g
Sauce- 200g.

I reckon the chips are ~250kcal per 100g, chicken ~300kcal/100g, sauce 150kcal/100g. Those are probably conservative figures, chicken balls are really just donuts, and sauce is probably loaded with oil.

So probably at least 2500kcal in all.

back from "lets eat in", the portions looked small compared to the usual chinese/indian takeaways huge helpings. They are in cubic boxes so it is deceiving. I am in work & had a scales handy, I also like to calculate calories to show people the reality of takeaway portions, rice was 310g, korma was 520g. 830g in total, now most microwave kormas are 300-400g, so it is over twice that. The rice was the size of a decent mug.

I would guess at least 1200kcal, will have to have a look at some rich korma sauce labels and try and figure it out better.

Burkatron

Virginia Nutritious Pennon wrote: »

I need to be eating 6000+ calories a day but with my current schedule eating every 2 hours or so is not possible. So after a google search I have found out that many people eat 2000 calories per meal x 3 meals. The unfortunate thing is though, no one explains what they are eating per meal.

So is anyone currently eating like this or has eat like this and would have a good meal plan? I do not need to eat clean, my only issue is with dairy (i know), so milk is a defo non no.

Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers

What about lactose free milk? Either buy it in the shop, they only seem to sell the Lowfat option though! The other option would be to get some Lactaze enzymes & GOMAD

ugh, completely missed the dairy issues, apologies.

Your task just became a lot more difficult.

Mellor

6k calories in 3 meals, talk to Dave Tate.


• I ate clean for many years and my body-fat stayed under 10 percent till I reached 260 pounds. When I tried to break that I ran into problems. I tried to bulk clean with more chicken and rice and I was eating close to 6,000 calories per day. Doing that clean was a bitch. It was almost impossible. I could do it for one day but then it'd drop off to 3000 calories for the next two. So I had to add junk food until the only healthy thing I had left was the lettuce on my Big Mac.

He goes on to say the following

There was a time at the Old Westside gym where I couldn't gain weight to save my ****ing life.

There was this dude who trained there who could just put on weight like ****ing magic. He'd go from 198 to 308 and then to 275 and back down to 198. And he was never fat. It was amazing.

I finally asked him one day how he did it.

"You mean I never told you the secret to gaining weight? Come outside and I'll fill you in."

Now remember, we're at Westside Barbell. And this guy wants to go outside to talk so no one else can hear. Think about that for a minute. What the hell is he going to tell me? This must be some serious **** if we have to go outside, I thought.

So we get outside and he starts talking.

"For breakfast you need to eat four of those breakfast sandwiches from McDonalds. I don't care which ones you get, but make sure to get four. Order four hash browns, too. Now grab two packs of mayonnaise and put them on the hash browns and then slip them into the sandwiches. Squish that **** down and eat. That's your breakfast."

At this point I'm thinking this guy is nuts. But he's completely serious.

"For lunch you're gonna eat Chinese food. Now I don't want you eating that crappy stuff. You wanna get the stuff with MSG. None of that non-MSG bull****. I don't care what you eat but you have to sit down and eat for at least 45 minutes straight. You can't let go of the fork. Eat until your eyes swell up and become slits and you start to look like the woman behind the counter."

"For dinner you're gonna order an extra-large pizza with everything on it. Literally everything. If you don't like sardines, don't put 'em on, but anything else that you like you have to load it on there. After you pay the delivery guy, I want you to take the pie to your coffee table, open that ****er up, and grab a bottle of oil. It can be olive oil, canola oil, whatever. Anything but motor oil. And I want you to pour that **** over the pie until half of the bottle is gone. Just soak the **** out of it."

"Now before you lay into it, I want you to sit on your couch and just stare at that ****er. I want you to understand that that pizza right there is keeping you from your goals."

This guy is in a zen-like state when he's talking about this.

"Now you're on the clock," he continues. "After 20 minutes your brain is going to tell you you're full. Don't listen to that ****. You have to try and eat as much of the pizza as you can before that 20-minute mark. Double up pieces if you have to. I'm telling you now, you're going to get three or four pieces in and you're gonna want to quit. You ****ing can't quit. You have to sit on that couch until every piece is done.

And if you can't finish it, don't you ever come back to me and tell me you can't gain weight. 'Cause I'm gonna tell you that you don't give a **** about getting bigger and you don't care how much you lift!"




There's a certain amount of Hyperbole there for comedic effect. But the message behind the stort is pretty good.

Mellor

As for food choices. Snack smart and you can make it a lot easier on yourself.

Peanuts. 200g a day snack this is nothing. But its 1200 cals.
Caesin before bed. Easily drag a few hundred cals into you.
Fruit Smoothies with yogurt and a few scoops of whey could be a few 100 cals. Easy to get in to you.

Coconut milk is ridic high in cals. Coconut milk has way more cals than regular milk.
Half a tin is over 500 cals

240ml coconut milk, 2 bananas, 50g peanut butter, Blend. Drink it. There's 1000cals.
It's prob tasty enough, thai banana satay shake, or something.

rubadub

Mellor wrote: »

"After 20 minutes your brain is going to tell you you're full. Don't listen to that ****.

This is true for me anyway, its a good way for dieting too, you should have a starter or small something to eat and leave it to settle. When I was losing fat I would tend to make meals which would reheat well, like a curry, so if I did feel full I could just stop and have it later, rather than want to polish the lot so as to waste none.