Senior Garda comments on Roma, Dubs, Guinness and Footlocker shoes :)

gurramok

All in the one article about begging. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2011/1031/1224306807572.html

Insp Patrick McMenamin of Pearse Street Garda station told councillors on the Dublin Regional Authority last month that 540 beggars have been arrested and 110 cases have been processed by the District Court since February.

Almost two-thirds of arrested beggars are “foreign nationals”, mostly Roma Gypsies, for whom begging was part of their culture and seen as a legitimate way of making a living, Insp McMenamin said.

“For us to try to change that culture here would be like trying to change people in Dublin from drinking Guinness; it’s their culture and they do not see anything wrong with it.”

A large proportion of this money was confiscated following raids on a bus which leaves Dublin each Saturday for Romania.

During one raid in July, the bus was stopped in Dublin Port and a “barefoot beggar” who operates on Grafton Street in Dublin city centre and who is known to gardaí was found to be carrying €1,800 in €50 notes.

“While he may look pretty sad on Grafton Street, I can assure you that he is manipulating people who are giving him the money.”

People who were genuinely moved by the man’s plight had been known to buy footwear for him in sports shops on Grafton Street, Insp McMenamin said.

“It’s known to ourselves that people will go in and buy him runners.

“He has more runners I think than the Foot Locker at this stage.”

Is this a Garda with a sense of humour? :eek:

Auvers

ah the barefoot beggar hes a class act

woodoo

Each Roma caught begging should be turfed out of the country and never let back in.

MrJoeSoap

I'm offended by the Guinness comments, how dare he...

ejmaztec

woodoo wrote: »

Anyone caught begging should be turfed out of the country and never let back in.

Fixed for the PC brigade.:pac:

mikemac

Must be a Corkman, Murphys only

Chuck Stone

People need to stop giving beggars money.

Problem solved.

RachaelVO

Maybe we should all try the same trick, see if we get a few decent pairs of runners...

Has to be said though, if we were in a country and broke the law we'd get a nice prison sentence, and a cell with a b1tch/bubba who took us under his/her wing for a few favours, or turfed outta the country.

Pity we can't do the same, by sending people who break the law back to where they came from, has to save us money!

the groutch

it's all the EU's fault with all their human rights laws.

galwayrush

Some Roma's living in my area were found with stolen articles from a local graveyard at the house, guess dole and begging wasn't good enough for them.

syklops

woodoo wrote: »

Each Roma caught begging should be turfed out of the country and never let back in.

Unfortunately there is no way to stop people coming into the country. The border is wide open. Send the shoeless beggar home, and he will be back in a week or two be it via bus, plane or train.

phasers

who's giving beggars €50 notes?

John Doe1

Anyone for a good old fashioned lynching

hondasam

This is the reason I do not give money to beggars, fcuk the lot of them out of the country.
Fair play to the Inspector, like his comment.

Cill Dara Abu

-Snip-

hondasam

phasers wrote: »

who's giving beggars €50 notes?

I would say he changed his coins for notes.

mikemac

Ireland is just getting what's being going on in Europe for years
Last time I was in Rome the Roma were everywhere begging. Particularly around Tibertina. And coming into shops with coins to change for notes, yeah anecdotal but of course it happens in shops

The Roma in Roma, there's a pun there somewhere

hondasam wrote: »

This is the reason I do not give money to beggars, fcuk the lot of them out of the country.

In the article one third were Irish
You can't boot Irish people out of the country

afatbollix

He gets the bus to Romania?

Captain Limerick

I saw a Roma beggar on the street,
Who had nothing on his poor feet,
I hadn't read this here news,
So I bought him some shoes,
I wasn't aware of the deceit!:mad:

foggy_lad

afatbollix wrote: »

He gets the bus to Romania?

it works out very cheap and there is more chance of walking away with an extra suitcase from a coach.

Matt Bauer

Begging is big business. It's all a scam.

hondasam

mikemac wrote: »

Ireland is just getting what's being going on in Europe for years
Last time I was in Rome the Roma were everywhere begging. Particularly around Tibertina. And coming into shops with coins to change for notes, yeah anecdotal but of course it happens in shops

The Roma in Roma, there's a pun there somewhere



In the article one third were Irish
You can't boot Irish people out of the country

The Irish beggars are not getting that much money. I will clarify, Roma beggars should be fcuked out of the country.

ThisRegard

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

I hate Roma's with a passion

That's a bit over the top, no ? They're pretty much all the same, Borzas, Macaris, Silvios et al, they're all equally as yummy.

mossyc123

Wouldn't it be fantastic to live in a country where all elements of the State Apparatus dealt with problems like these honestly.

Can you imagine Enda Kenny and the Garda Commissioner releasing a statement tomorrow along the lines of this.

"People of Ireland,

It has come to our atttention though various Garda operations that begging from Roma Gypsies is a highly sophisticated criminal operation that benefits only the powerful males in their society and subjugates Women and Children.

We implore all citizens to desist from giving any money or resources to these people as it is counter-productive to the development of the Roma people.

Regards"

ejmaztec

hondasam wrote: »

The Irish beggars are not getting that much money. I will clarify, Roma beggars should be fcuked out of the country.

The big multi-millionaire boss-men living in their palatial estates in Roma-central would send them back here again.

deaddonkey

galwayrush wrote: »

Some Roma's living in my area were found with stolen articles from a local graveyard at the house, guess dole and begging wasn't good enough for them.

Your sig

"Better the pride that resides in a citizen of the world
Than the pride that divides when a colorful rag is unfurled "

lol.

laoch na mona

only give to irish beggars its like the buy irish thing
maybe there should be a bord bia for beggars

efb

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

I hate Roma's with a passion

Yeah, I prefer Dolmio, with all its GM goodness

Dyr

I used to have to step over that shoeless shaky c**t every morning on the way to work...He'll be getting my shoes on his feet the next time

flutered

i have seen a documentery on the bbc recently, they reconed that one six year old kid that they were secretly filming was earning up to 500 a week.

Solnskaya

Bambi wrote: »

I used to have to step over that shoeless shaky c**t every morning on the way to work...He'll be getting my shoes on his feet the next time

proof ^ that most child stars end up as bitter adults. I preferred when you were skipping through the forest, thrilling us with your escapes from peril Bambi. Now you are just a cynical old dear.:)

My name is URL

540 beggars arrested since February.. How many pickpockets have been caught in the same period?

SEPT 23 1989

The PC thugs will be all over that copper:D

Dyr

Solnskaya wrote: »

proof ^ that most child stars end up as bitter adults. I preferred when you were skipping through the forest, thrilling us with your escapes from peril Bambi. Now you are just a cynical old dear.:)

Don't go stepping on my toes sonny, I'm an ungulate

LeixlipRed

Two little Roma kids called to the door their coincidentally just now. They were trick or treating. Didn't rob me, stab me, spit at me, they even looked human. You lot make my stomach turn to be honest.

LeixlipRed

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Two little Roma kids called to the door their coincidentally just now. They were trick or treating. Didn't rob me, stab me, spit at me, they even looked human. You lot make my stomach turn to be honest.

Nobody here even mentioned any of these things (unless you consider begging to be robbing)? Nor did they suggest they aren't human?

LeixlipRed

Sacramento wrote: »

Nobody here even mentioned any of these things (unless you consider begging to be robbing)? Nor did they suggest they aren't human?

I was highlighting the fact that people want to tar a racial group based on the fact they beg, which of course is not a crime. "Kick them all out", that's pretty hate filled and stomach turning in my opinion. Or would you disagree?

4leto

I seen how lucrative it is. I was coming home on the nightlink and some traveller were counting their begging proceeds for the day, wads, I asked where did you get the 50s, they told me from some shop and sometimes people give you 50.

There was 3 of them and each of them had 2 to 300 euro

southsiderosie

syklops wrote: »

Unfortunately there is no way to stop people coming into the country. The border is wide open.

As a non-citizen, I can safely say that this is complete and utter bull****.

LeixlipRed

LeixlipRed wrote: »

I was highlighting the fact that people want to tar a racial group based on the fact they beg, which of course is not a crime. "Kick them all out", that's pretty hate filled and stomach turning in my opinion. Or would you disagree?

Well that I get, but it's far better to address the argument in that manner than to categorically list things nobody has actually accused them of doing in the discussion so far.

My own personal experience of their begging has been that they are often quite aggressive beggars, following you around or even knocking on your door. This form of begging is illegal. They have also been documented sending their children out to beg. In fact, a house of Roma people that used to live a few doors down from me would knock around to all their neighbours begging.

woodoo

LeixlipRed wrote: »

I was highlighting the fact that people want to tar a racial group based on the fact they beg, which of course is not a crime. "Kick them all out", that's pretty hate filled and stomach turning in my opinion. Or would you disagree?

Didn't France decide to do something along those lines. I propose kicking out the Roma that partake in begging and especially robbing graves. We don't need that here.

hondasam

LeixlipRed wrote: »

I was highlighting the fact that people want to tar a racial group based on the fact they beg, which of course is not a crime. "Kick them all out", that's pretty hate filled and stomach turning in my opinion. Or would you disagree?

I think begging is a crime now, I have zero sympathy for roma beggars.
they are a menace to society.

Snowc

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Two little Roma kids called to the door their coincidentally just now. They were trick or treating. Didn't rob me, stab me, spit at me, they even looked human. You lot make my stomach turn to be honest.

I am having the same problem as you .Nearly ever few weeks we have smelly Roma kids calling to our door begging for sweets:mad:Why where they let in to the EU ?

MIN2511

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Two little Roma kids called to the door their coincidentally just now. They were trick or treating. Didn't rob me, stab me, spit at me, they even looked human. You lot make my stomach turn to be honest.

There's a difference....

Roma gypsies != Romanians!

Turtyturd

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Two little Roma kids called to the door their coincidentally just now. They were trick or treating. Didn't rob me, stab me, spit at me, they even looked human. You lot make my stomach turn to be honest.

Were they dressed as beggars?

Jake Rugby Walrus666

My name is URL wrote: »

540 beggars arrested since February.. How many pickpockets have been caught in the same period?

540.

mcmoustache

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Two little Roma kids called to the door their coincidentally just now. They were trick or treating. Didn't rob me, stab me, spit at me, they even looked human. You lot make my stomach turn to be honest.

Have you checked your backyard?

Gummy Panda

phasers wrote: »

who's giving beggars €50 notes?

I've seen a pensioner give the barefoot roma beggar on henry st 20 euro and pair of runners from penney's.

The fúcker threw the runners into a bin after she left. Bastard :mad:

charlemont

Totally agree with him.

Solnskaya

mcmoustache wrote: »

We Have checked - you're backward!

No call for that. I was next to a Roma couple in a filling station today- Mr Roma was putting €100 of unleaded in his Brabus Mercedes. I've never seen a Brabus Mercedes before, but it just didn't look cheap.....I wonder what he does for a living to afford that??

WalterMitty

They are still around in ireland because obviously they are making a killing here. They exploit mostly old people, calling to their homes and using distraction techniques to fleece them . The old people i help in the neighbourhood all feel sorry for them and wont hear of you critcising them begging outside shops. They dont even bother asking younger people for money as they know their target market well.
Next time shoeless lad is on grafton street someone should "accidentally" spill a large box of thumbtacks.