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RHCP - 26th June 2012 Croke Park
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jordainius wrote: »You were inferring that RHCP don't write or play any decent music any more, that is incorrect. They don't write material that suit's your personal taste. Lot's of people like it, they like it for a reason. You had a pop at RHCP, I took issue with that by having a pop at Noel Gallagher not because I don't like Gallagher, but because you were wrong to say what you said. So I did directly respond to what you said. You claimed he can write and play decent songs and that RHCP can't, you're wrong, they can, you just don't like them. My post was designed to show you that critics talk nonsense, you were being a critic yourself, therefore you were talking nonsense. Bizarrely, you somehow formed the opinion that I am pro critic. How in the name of god you drew that conclusion I'll never know...
I say "vast swathes of people would disagree with you", you choose to interpret it as vast swathes of people think you're stupid
Good for you, what a moronic conclusion to make!!
Moronic? Why have people thanked my post and why has nobody thanked yours? People don't generally thank moronic posts... Unlike yourself I think before I speak, also- ever heard of attack the post, not the poster??? Also, I am so happy to say I am not now, never was, and never will be your "mate". I like my friends, they don't moan about how this is rubbish and that is terrible and they understand the concept of subjectivity.
Paranoid lie/mistruth that you have baselessly assumed as nothing I said indicated that
This has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted, absoluitely nothing. Kind of strange coming from someone who went ballistic at what he perceived as another poster not adressing what he said. :pac:
Not necessarily, they have every right to compare to previous material. Coincidentally, your post which said Chili Peppers fans should be grateful to be able to see someone who can still write and play decent music implies that the Chili's were once able to write decent music, and you now feel that they can't. So you are judging them now against what they did in the past. And from what you say, judging a band by what they did in the past is lazy and makes that person an unoriginal pratt. Your words, not mine...
But you didn't comment only on "poor auld Noel" who's record speaks for itself, there are plenty of ways to stick up for your beloved Noel without having to take a swing at other bands. "My favourite band is better than your favourite band" is childish nonsense.
You confuse "X is bad" with "X is not to my personal taste"
Beloved critics? Another baseless assumption! And the critical reception for I'm With You was generally positive actually. Average to above average while not outstanding would cover it. Also, I find it funny that you pick and choose when critical acclaim means anything. You pick and choose what suits you!....
If the critics can be correct from time to time then Be Here Now and Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants are terrible albums. But of course as I've already pointed out, the opinions of the critics only counts when it suits yourself.
You somehow have failed to read between the lines in my original post- that being that the opinions of critics doesn't matter. You basically said that RHCP don't wrote or play anything decent anymore. My point was that you are no better than any of the countless critics that Noel Gallagher or Oasis have when you say things like that. You think its okay for you to say that the RHCP's don't write or play any decent music anymore, and when it's pointed out to you that many feel the same way about Oasis/NG you throw your toys out of the pram and post the nonsense. Oasis/NG critic's are lazy unoriginal pratts? You're doing EXACTLY the same thing as these lazy unoriginal pratts with your criticism of RHCP. You don't know the difference between "X is terrible" and "I don't like X". For example I don't like Guinness but it would be wrong of me to say that Guinness is disgusting. It obviously isn't, it just isn't to my personal taste.
If you respond, please try to deal with what I actually say instead of making stupid assumptions. Remember, 2+2=4.
I forgot about all of this. But I'll keep my reply relatively concise.
The last RHCP album was crap. That's what I was inferring. It's an opinion held by vast swathes of people, if you will. Don't get me wrong though, the Chilis have obviously released some of the best music of the last 25 years. I'M NOT SAYING IT IS COMPARATIVELY CRAP*
Look mate, you got people to like you defending a band on a thread about said band. I think that this type of argument only reinforces the idea that you aren't quite the sharpest knife in the drawer.
I am not comparing what RHCP did in the past to anything.* The new album, objectively speaking, is pretty terrible. Rain Dance Maggie?! Come on lads! Let's remove the fanboy mentality for just a second!
Maybe I confused you with my line about satirising your perceived value of critics but I suggest you give it a bit of time. You will see the light I'm sure!
While we're at it, SOTSOG was a pretty average record, as was Heathen Chemistry. Critics were certainly correct to criticise the albums, as long as they didn't compare them to the first two. *
Actually 2+2=5 according to Thom Yorke. Lighten up bff, you'll get wrinkles!
*highlight points which show consistency in order to make it as easy as possible for you to understand0 -
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Haven't listened to it in ages. 
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