Who is reluctant to buy MW3?

r3nu4l

So I've been a massive fan of COD from my PC gaming days to my current PS3 days. COD4 was amazing, a real leap forward but MW2 was a let down for me. BLOPS was a much better SP and MP game IMO. However, vie been looking at the gameplay videos for MW3 and so far I'm seriously unimpressed

It seems like a rehash of MW2 to me. Any other COD fans feeling the same? Anyone else feel like this is just an expansion pack?

I hope I'm wrong but I won't be buying until I hear a lot more about the game from regular players...

claiva

I really don't understand the negativity towards this release.......
Its a computer game.
They release new ones all the time.
They cost 50 quid.....
Whats the problem ?

Its not really a big decision is it ?
Whether to buy or not to buy ????
Its just a game for Gods sake.....
All these soul searching posts about re-hashed MW2 expansion packs etc etc....
I really dont see why its causing so much angst ????

Its not really a "Big Problem" in the grander scheme of things now is it ?
Its 50 quid ffs !!!!
No offence like.....
I'll get my coat.....;)

Witcher

I feel the same r3nu4l, I wasn't a big fan of MW2 multiplayer, much preferred Blops(when I actually had time to play it:P)I think the new killstreak/pointstreak gimmicks will be a disaster and ultimately the same problems MW2 had will emerge again and if they don't, equally annoying ones will come to light. I'm looking forward to the single player but multiplayer wise I'm more excited by BF3.

Thomasheen

Yeah I was reluctant at first too but I'm still getting it. Every cod has their problems but at it's core it's still fun.

KERSPLAT!

Don't like MW2 so can't see me liking this. Will definitely buy it but will probably regret it might pick up BF3 and see how that goes

BrianOFlanagan

I'm reluctant to buy every COD game, there's not enough hours in the day and you never get a decent amount of money back on trade in. I know deep down that eventually I will get it because no matter how much I rage, ultimately its fun and ridiculously addictive.

However! BF3 is coming out first and I haven't finished rage yet so it's a while off yet.

And OP, every COD game is just a retail expansion pack of the last one.

Lab_Mouse

as claiva said above its a new game.Either its enjoyable or it isnt.

I'd spend the same amount of money on a friday night before 12 !so if i spend 4 hours on it im even,any more after that and its a brucie bonus and im getting my monies worth.

Couldnt care less if its activision cashing in on my fanboi'ism of call of duty or my local,sponsered by bulmers thats getting my cash.

same with the bitching about the map packs..it really is fuk all even if you only get a few hours out of them to like/dislike the maps.

sierra117x

if there was ever a few serious games to be had like against the IRL lads the last time id be playing against them on Blops. if i wanted to have a bit of fun and enjoy a game id stick on modern warfare 2.

only played it a couple of months ago for a few days straight and then gears came out. got back into it there the other night and again last night. almost 2 years after the game was released.

i havent played Blops in at least a month.

you say re hash of modern warfare 2 . but i hear more new stuff and maps for the game i STILL enjoy playing 2 years later

r3nu4l

claiva wrote: »

Whats the problem ?

Well you see, I have a job that requires a lot of work (quite often outside of 'work' hours. I have a kid and a wife so that means that I get very little 'free time' to play the PS3. When I do play my PS3, I want to play games I really, really like and enjoy. The COD series used to really fill that gap for me. As did GTA. GTA IV was a pile of pants despite improvements to the driving system and MW2 was an absolute disaster! IW messed up big time on that.

We used to say that IW were the real developers of COD while Treyarch were the second fiddle. MW2 and BLOPS proved that wasn't the case. BLOPS was a better MP experience than MW2 by far.

So looking at MW3 I'm worried that the game I was banking on to be my free-time pleasure will now be something I wouldn't get too much enjoyment out of. COD has always been my 'go-to' game for a bit of quick run and gun action where I could have a blast in as little as 20 mins or if I got two hours to play I could really have a blast.

As for €50 not being a lot. I'm very well paid for my job but I've a child trust fund, pension, savings, I've reduced my 25 year mortgage to 14 years in the space of 5 years through overpayments etc so the equivalent of €50 is something I consider a lot for a game that I may only get to play for 20 hours in a year.

When I was a student and a man with time on his hands I would sit down for four to six hours straight playing COD, not so any more A few weekends ago was the first time I had switched on my PS3 since March this year!

So yeah, MW3 was going to be my fresh game full of more MP goodliness, doesn't look like that now. May have to find a new game and I hate that because I've always loved COD.

So that, in the nutshell is the problem, thanks for asking

r3nu4l

BrianOFlanagan wrote: »

And OP, every COD game is just a retail expansion pack of the last one.

Nah, COD4 was a massive step up imo and something they need to do again. I appreciate that it'll sell shedloads because for most people that's all they from the game but I'd like investment in the game engine and more strategic thinking from the game developers. Not much to ask for a game that has become a cash cow for Activision.

johndoe99

i'm always reluctant to buy them too. My nephew buys the game and finishes it in a few days and having no broadband passes it onto me. I always leave the campaign for at least several weeks, i jump right into the online multiplayer.

To be honest the campaign is below par, i would like to see boss battles at the end of various scenes that are hard. And the end of the game is always ridiculous, like in MW2 you throw a knife, in Black Ops you had to strangle. I mean come on, how good would it be to have decent fight at the end of a game, that you could lose a few times before winning.

EIREHotspur

claiva wrote: »

I really don't understand the negativity towards this release.......
Its a computer game.
They release new ones all the time.
They cost 50 quid.....
Whats the problem ?

Its not really a big decision is it ?
Whether to buy or not to buy ????
Its just a game for Gods sake.....
All these soul searching posts about re-hashed MW2 expansion packs etc etc....
I really dont see why its causing so much angst ????

Its not really a "Big Problem" in the grander scheme of things now is it ?
Its 50 quid ffs !!!!
No offence like.....
I'll get my coat.....;)

LMAO

Exactly what I think every time I read a post.....They should have included this huge financial dilemma in the Europeon Leaders Talks last night in Brussels.

Surprised that boards isn't having a special number up for people to ring if they are experiencing financial worries after opting to buy the game only to find the emblems on the camouflage jackets of one army is the same as Modern Warfare 2.

What kind of nonsense are these posts....buy it/don't buy it and ask 1500 questions about if you should buy it....it is real simple people.

Enigma IE

r3nu4l, your situation isn't unique, work long hours, mortgage, kids, wife, limited free time! I played 20 something days of MW2, only 9 hours on BLOPS due to reasons above!

Is it not worth spending 50 yoyos to try it yourself, make your own decision, rather than waiting on reports from other players? If you don't like it, trade it in and buy something else? The most you have lost is 20 yoyos and a few hours putting it through its paces?

gcgirl

EIREHotspur wrote: »

claiva wrote: »

I really don't understand the negativity towards this release.......
Its a computer game.
They release new ones all the time.
They cost 50 quid.....
Whats the problem ?

Its not really a big decision is it ?
Whether to buy or not to buy ????
Its just a game for Gods sake.....
All these soul searching posts about re-hashed MW2 expansion packs etc etc....
I really dont see why its causing so much angst ????

Its not really a "Big Problem" in the grander scheme of things now is it ?
Its 50 quid ffs !!!!
No offence like.....
I'll get my coat.....;)

LMAO

Exactly what I think every time I read a post.....They should have included this huge financial dilemma in the Europeon Leaders Talks last night in Brussels.

Surprised that boards isn't having a special number up for people to ring if they are experiencing financial worries after opting to buy the game only to find the emblems on the camouflage jackets of one army is the same as Modern Warfare 2.

What kind of nonsense are these posts....buy it/don't buy it and ask 1500 questions about if you should buy it....it is real simple people.

The way I look at it what's the average cost of a night out? I'd rather spend my money on something I can keep other than pissing it down the toilet €50 ant that much and I know between myself and my son it will get an awful lot of play, tonight at 12 battlefield 3 is out so for the midterm I know what I'm doing;)

r3nu4l

Enigma IE wrote: »

Is it not worth spending 50 yoyos to try it yourself, make your own decision, rather than waiting on reports from other players? If you don't like it, trade it in and buy something else? The most you have lost is 20 yoyos and a few hours putting it through its paces?

Nah, I resent spending 50 quid on anything that is born of lazy and incompetence. That's the bottom line. I don't tolerate laziness or substandard work from the people in my team at work and I sack those who don't work well and reward those who do, why should I reward a games company with my money for a slapdash rehash of MW2. That's the issue.

I'll happily spend 50 quid and more on a game that is going to blow my socks off when I'm playing it. Not asking questions about the game and not decrying poor standards is merely accepting poor standards and that's something I just don't do. I'm still annoyed at myself (two years on!) for buying MW2. I played that game to death in an effort to like it. I had some good games too but really, it's time they stepped the franchise up a gear, even the game engine.

I love COD, I'm a fanboy to some extent (COD4 in particular ) but I want to see a better effort from the developers (plus I'm selfish, I want a game tailored to my needs )

everlast75

r3nu4l wrote: »

Well you see, I have a job that requires a lot of work (quite often outside of 'work' hours. I have a kid and a wife so that means that I get very little 'free time' to play the PS3. When I do play my PS3, I want to play games I really, really like and enjoy. The COD series used to really fill that gap for me. As did GTA. GTA IV was a pile of pants despite improvements to the driving system and MW2 was an absolute disaster! IW messed up big time on that.

We used to say that IW were the real developers of COD while Treyarch were the second fiddle. MW2 and BLOPS proved that wasn't the case. BLOPS was a better MP experience than MW2 by far.

So looking at MW3 I'm worried that the game I was banking on to be my free-time pleasure will now be something I wouldn't get too much enjoyment out of. COD has always been my 'go-to' game for a bit of quick run and gun action where I could have a blast in as little as 20 mins or if I got two hours to play I could really have a blast.

As for €50 not being a lot. I'm very well paid for my job but I've a child trust fund, pension, savings, I've reduced my 25 year mortgage to 14 years in the space of 5 years through overpayments etc so the equivalent of €50 is something I consider a lot for a game that I may only get to play for 20 hours in a year.

When I was a student and a man with time on his hands I would sit down for four to six hours straight playing COD, not so any more A few weekends ago was the first time I had switched on my PS3 since March this year!

So yeah, MW3 was going to be my fresh game full of more MP goodliness, doesn't look like that now. May have to find a new game and I hate that because I've always loved COD.

So that, in the nutshell is the problem, thanks for asking

Fair enufski!

The problem with asking folk here though it... (insert well known quote from Dirty Harry movie regarding a certain body part). You will still get people arguing that MW2 is far better than Black OPs and vice versa.

Certainly, you could look for opinions from those who you generally agree with on that point.

I would suggest buying, playing and deciding for yourself. If you decide its shiiiiite, then you will always get a good trade-in value for a good couple of weeks off some other new title. You'll lose maybe 15e.

Alternatively, rent it out for a w/end. You'll lose even less.

I like MW2 for certain things, Black Ops for others. My mood changes between the two. CoD4 not so much for all the hacking and also lack of guns..

Until I get a game of the franchise that's totally brutal, I'll keep buying it - I'm a sucker like that though

Enigma IE

r3nu4l wrote: »

Nah, I resent spending 50 quid on anything that is born of lazy and incompetence. That's the bottom line. I don't tolerate laziness or substandard work from the people in my team at work and I sack those who don't work well and reward those who do, why should I reward a games company with my money for a slapdash rehash of MW2. That's the issue.

I do understand where you are coming from, however unfortunately not everyone has the same ethical or professional standards. Of course they should, but they are going to sell millions of copies regardless, plus DLC's and all associated revenue streams.

We certainly hope it's just not a rehash of MW2 with some maps, we will soon find out.

EIREHotspur

r3nu4l wrote: »

.... I resent spending 50 quid on anything that is born of lazy and incompetence. That's the bottom line. I don't tolerate laziness or substandard work from the people in my team at work and I sack those who don't work well and reward those who do, why should I reward a games company with my money for a slapdash rehash of MW2. That's the issue.

You have seen the graphics haven't you?
You have played the game Modern Warfare 2?

There are things I didn't like about Modern Warfare 2 and God knows a ton of stuff I would change or add on but thats a kids attitude saying it is "sub standard work".
Standard Work is average so Sub Standard is heading towards Crap.

The amount of Attention to Detail, Graphics, Sound and Varitation of Modern Warfare had me playing it solid for the best part of two years.....for 50euro?

Then I read nonsense like this.....try parking in Dublin for 8 hours and see how much change you will have from 50euro.

everlast75

EIREHotspur wrote: »

You have seen the graphics haven't you?
You have played the game Modern Warfare 2?

There are things I didn't like about Modern Warfare 2 and God knows a ton of stuff I would change or add on but thats a kids attitude saying it is "sub standard work".
Standard Work is average so Sub Standard is heading towards Crap.

The amount of Attention to Detail, Graphics, Sound and Varitation of Modern Warfare had me playing it solid for the best part of two years.....for 50euro?

Then I read nonsense like this.....try parking in Dublin for 8 hours and see how much change you will have from 50euro.

I don't mean to speak for r3nu4l but (I will ).. I don't believe he meant substandard work was the graphics etc. I believe he meant how the game evolves and more importantly that it evolves in the right direction. Graphics are all very well but as you've said yourself, there were alot of other issues and the question of whether they have been fixed or not remains to be seen.

Re Car-parking etc. I don't subscribe to that argument. Sky will tell you you can get a complete package for less than a pint a day... Insurance Companies will sell you policies for "less than a loaf of bread a day". Pretty soon you have the equivalent of a trolley load of imaginary shopping with f**k all to eat.

Money is money.. money is even more important to people now more than ever and to disregard that is insensative at best and snobbery at worst.


P.S. €26

Thomasheen

r3nu4l wrote: »

Nah, I resent spending 50 quid on anything that is born of lazy and incompetence. That's the bottom line. I don't tolerate laziness or substandard work from the people in my team at work and I sack those who don't work well and reward those who do, why should I reward a games company with my money for a slapdash rehash of MW2. That's the issue.

I'll happily spend 50 quid and more on a game that is going to blow my socks off when I'm playing it. Not asking questions about the game and not decrying poor standards is merely accepting poor standards and that's something I just don't do. I'm still annoyed at myself (two years on!) for buying MW2. I played that game to death in an effort to like it. I had some good games too but really, it's time they stepped the franchise up a gear, even the game engine.

I love COD, I'm a fanboy to some extent (COD4 in particular ) but I want to see a better effort from the developers (plus I'm selfish, I want a game tailored to my needs )

Well if you didn't enjoy MW2 you probally wont enjoy MW3 very much because they are very similiar but it's not like you have to be confined to one type of game. You said you liked GTA, the new Saints Row looks like massive amounts of fun. If thats not your thing there's Batman, Skyrim, Battlefield, Uncharted. You don't have to play cod for the sake of it, god knows I dont or I'd be angry a whole lot more

Risteard

I probably won't be getting it. Everytime I get a COD game, it follows the same pattern. Finish SP, start multilayer, play loads for a few months and then grow tired of it suddenly, as it feels more like a job than actually having fun, try as I might to not think that way and then I just completely stop playing it.

Happened with CoD4, WaW, MW2 and BLOPS.

EIREHotspur

everlast75 wrote: »

I don't mean to speak for r3nu4l but (I will ).. I don't believe he meant substandard work was the graphics etc. I believe he meant how the game evolves and more importantly that it evolves in the right direction. Graphics are all very well but as you've said yourself, there were alot of other issues and the question of whether they have been fixed or not remains to be seen.

Re Car-parking etc. I don't subscribe to that argument. Sky will tell you you can get a complete package for less than a pint a day... Insurance Companies will sell you policies for "less than a loaf of bread a day". Pretty soon you have the equivalent of a trolley load of imaginary shopping with f**k all to eat.

Money is money.. money is even more important to people now more than ever and to disregard that is insensative at best and snobbery at worst.


P.S. €24

Well I see money as money but something that you get 2 years use out of for 50euro....theres few things these days you can say that for.....shoes maybe.

It's a Shooter.....how much do you want it to evolve?
Move from point A to point B and shoot.
Create Great Maps....they have a new Reward System which should make it better.

I'd prefer more gametypes and more Spec Ops Missons every DLC but the core game is great.

Edit: Solution.....tip to anyone having even an inkling of a doubt of Modern Warfare 3.
Don't buy it......save your 50euro and watch videos of Modern Warfare 3 on youtube if you feel like your missing out.

Thing is I hope Activision don't get youtube to charge you 50euro to watch said videos.

Kersmash

I probably wont buy it on launch, I'm just really not that bothered with it to be honest. That being said my brother probably will pick it up so I dont have to :P

r3nu4l

EIREHotspur wrote: »

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There are things I didn't like about Modern Warfare 2 and God knows a ton of stuff I would change or add on but thats a kids attitude saying it is "sub standard work".
Standard Work is average so Sub Standard is heading towards Crap.

The amount of Attention to Detail, Graphics, Sound and Varitation of Modern Warfare had me playing it solid for the best part of two years.....for 50euro?

Then I read nonsense like this.....

Cool rant! Did you perhaps work on programming MW2?

Nah, everlast75 summed it up nicely when speaking on my behalf

everlast75 wrote: »

I don't believe he meant substandard work was the graphics etc. I believe he meant how the game evolves and more importantly that it evolves in the right direction. Graphics are all very well but as you've said yourself, there were alot of other issues and the question of whether they have been fixed or not remains to be seen.

This is what I meant, the COD franchise has become a cash-cow, generating huge amounts of very healthy profit. Now there's nothing wrong with that at all, that's what all companies are about, profit = win, to put it in internet parlance

However, I would like to see them step it up a gear, produce something really special, otherwise, why not call it 'MW2 - reworked' or MW2 expanded'

I'm just worried that in three years time, we'll be playing the same game with just minor tweaks here and there and loads of new maps.

Money is money.. money is even more important to people now more than ever and to disregard that is insensative at best and snobbery at worst.

Indeed. Thankfully I'm not stuck for money but I know the value of money because I grew up with none. That doesn't make me tight with what I have but it does make me question when I spend it on a game. MW3 so far looks to me like just one massive DLC package that includes new weapons and a few more customisations to an already existing game.

I could be very wrong and hope I am. I really hope I'm posting here in a few months saying "OMGZ!!!!!!!! MW3 FTW, LOL, totally PWNd N00bs last night!!! Best game EVA" <-- actually, if I ever post like that, beat me to death with my copy of MW3.

This is what I love about this forum and always have done. It's part of what I loved most when I was a (active) mod of the forum. People are passionate about the game and discussion really flows here

EIREHotspur

It does it does....well your right in a lot of ways....thing is I don't buy that many games and get my moneys worth times 50 out of those I do.

In fairness to them they are trying new stuff with the killstreaks and so it will make things a bit more even if you can actually get into equal level lobbies.

We will see what happens in a few weeks time.

It is a cash cow for them and they are going to milk it till it limps around the field banjaxed.

claiva

BF3 certainly doesn't look like the Cod Killer it was being touted as !
I was gonna get it....not so sure now.....
I'll definitely get MW3 though.
FPS Games have kind of reached their peak, certainly Blops was the peak, now they can only tweak it here and there.
I dont see a massive shake up to the FPS genre anytime soon, so might aswell get on board with this years iteration !

yimrsg

I kind of agree and disagree with r3nu4l about black ops being superior to mw2 in places but to me IW is still the major innovator but poorer than Treyarch at making a balanced game. Whilst Treyarch is largely seen as the runt of the litter, it's novel to have a single series with two (plus) different developers with their own universes and stories to tell.

Black ops has positives but they're more subtle than mw2; 8 player xbox party chat is a godsend, cod4 style playlists being added post release, simpler to play. There are negatives in that the graphics and the experience on the whole is poor in comparison to cod4 and trounced by mw2, there is zero replayability in the campaign, and the dlc on the whole was poor, bugs still present after nearly 12 months of updates.

I'm currently playing the mw2 campaign and it's a mess in terms of narrative, but by golly does it get the heart pumping in places and it looks gorgeous, I challenge anyone to replay it all and not be impressed. I really doubt the xbox can surpass that. It's a playable michael bay movie as others have said, not much sense but leave your brain at home and enjoy all the set pieces, assaulting the gulag, defending the washington monument, yeah it's annoying as hell in parts but for raw adrenaline released it leaves black ops dead.

Black ops campaign is more in the style of M Night Shyamalan; lots of intricate plots which take place over the best part of 40 years, and major plot holes (

sure after making me swallow broken glass I'll help you

), not as much action and of a lower quality and the plot twists aren't right for a hollywood blockbuster or a first person shooter and not satisfying enough to compete with a rpg. It tries too hard to be both and is neither.

I enjoy a movie being referenced and to play in particularly well done set piece from a movie is novel (

think gulag and the rock with Price instead of Connery

) but when the entire campaign is constructed of movie references or past campaigns it detracts immensely from it the experience (

oh look I'm with Ed Harris on the set of Abyss, where's that russian water tentacle?

).

For me the main desire to get mw3 is to play the campaign and see how the story (possibly?) ends. The multiplayer will no doubt be unbalanced to some degree but if it's a small bit closer to cod4 than mw2 then I'll be massively relieved. Black ops got boring and eventually easy whilst being balanced in places (the hit detection and host advantage is where it fails for me) but there is in mw2 multiplayer a better action packed experience if you don't get lobbies of noobtubers/oma/danger close, trick shot snipers or marathon/lightweight/commando gits, you're laughing. The quality of your experience depends on who you play and encounter by chance via matchmaking.

If IW do mess up and leave in a cheap option I really hope they take a leaf out of Treyarch's book and alter it post release, the last time people said they couldn't make any amendments as the company was in turmoil with activision. Now if they don't sort out any game breakers post release then people are perfectly right to never buy another of their products for top whack as they have learned nothing and will continue to make errors with correction.

If people are looking for prices and hate the way the retailers are so clandestine about their prices check this website or use invisible hand add on for your browser to find out the best value or to get an idea of prices.

Paparazzo

I'll definitely be buying it. I prefer BLOPS gameplay by a mile to MW2, but prefered the variation of maps in MW2. Restocked noobtubes, knifing from 10m away, nuke boosting, killstreak kills counting towards your next killstreak, that poxy rock in Fuel all annoyed me too much in MW2. I liked the single player in COD4, but the last 2 were so bad I doubt i'll even bother with the single player in the new game.

Roll on the next game, this and battlefield will more than likely be must have games. They're well worth the money for the hours you'll get playing them, even a "bad" game.

Nuri Sahin

Half-arsed is the term I keep on referring to when MW3 is discussed. I'll pick it up, sure, but am I genuinely bothered if I weren't to do so? Nope, and tbh, I can say the same about Battlefield 3 as well now. While good as it is and different aspects it covers well compared to COD, there was something slightly off about it like BOPS was. I'm someone who thinks BOPS is a good game but missing that spark. As r3nu4l eluded to somewhat, COD4 was the pinnacle for many many COD fans who got to experience COD4 in it's entirety ie: 2007-2009. COD4 is my no means perfect of course, but it was awfully damn close to it IMHO especially compared to the COD games that followed it. I know WaW was released in 2008, but I know plenty of mates who didn't purchase it after the shambles of COD3 which really was a blot in the series. I literally have around 10 - 15 mins on it and that was only because I worked with MS at the time.

MW2 left an awful taste in the mouth though. I was can admit I was over-hyped about the game. But it felt for me anyways, that they abandoned what made the game great all for the $$$$$$ and appealed to a whole new crowd mainly - adolescents. The Michael Bay generation of COD fans dare I say, and that was the game was for me in a nutshell, an interactive Bay movie. I'm not one for making rash calls and dismissing a games at the drop of a hat, but I did with MW2. I despised it within an hour of playing it. I returned to COD4 till after New Year. Change can be good, but this was too much and ever since then COD has been almost like getting the bus. Boring as hell, but with mates it can be a good experience and this place was the saving grace of MW2. I considered trading in as early as January post-release but playing in parties with boardsies postponed that numerous times infact.

I feel as if MW3 is over-complicating itself yet again, and while it might be fixing things that ruined the experiences of MW2 and BOPS, they are no doubt creating a ton of new problems. I'm getting the game for the banter and this clan feature thing more so than the fact that it's a new COD game, a new IW game. I really (x100) hope I'am wrong and this turns out to be far better than expected but I won't be holding my breath.

I'll disagree with r3nu4l re: GTA IV though :P

Shammy

I'll be getting it , not too bothered on whether its going to rock my socks or not .
A big part of the enjoyment of online gaming is who you play with , I'm lucky to have good banter with lads from on here , RL friends and mates who i've known for years on live.
For me its about enjoying the whole experience and not just whether the game lives up to expectation or not (media hype eh :pac:)

Magill

claiva wrote: »

I really don't understand the negativity towards this release.......
Its a computer game.
They release new ones all the time.
They cost 50 quid.....
Whats the problem ?

Its not really a big decision is it ?
Whether to buy or not to buy ????
Its just a game for Gods sake.....
All these soul searching posts about re-hashed MW2 expansion packs etc etc....
I really dont see why its causing so much angst ????

Its not really a "Big Problem" in the grander scheme of things now is it ?
Its 50 quid ffs !!!!
No offence like.....
I'll get my coat.....;)

haha, so true. Reminds me of the MW2 boycott on steam lol




I'll be buying it, i really enjoyed black ops and MW2 was fun for about 10 days played time ! So really... why wouldn't I ?

No doubt i'll get at least 5 or 6 days of enjoyment out of the multiplayer which is more than can be said for most games these days. Not expecting it to blow my socks off or anything but yeah... give me a better option (Don't say BF3 :P I'll be getting it too).

EIREHotspur

Yimrsg...thats the best balanced post I have seen on any board about COD.

I agree with most of what you say and in fairness to IW fraom what I have read they are fixing:
- lunging with a knife from a different county
- killstreaks to be more balanced
- cheating will be picked up on right away

plus more because they have said that they way they have designed this game makes it easier for them to add/adapt/remove certain things easier than before.

They are also putting in a few ideas from Black Ops like Hoarde Mode (Zombie Mode) and Split Screen Online.

The thing I hated most about Black Ops was the Animation, feel of playing.
Modern Warfare Character movement is so reactive and smooth.....also shooting a gun in Black Ops was like shooting someone with a pop gun.....just wasn't like MW2.

Paparazzo

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

there was something slightly off about it like BOPS was. I'm someone who thinks BOPS is a good game but missing that spark.

Agree with that, it was missing something.

EIREHotspur wrote: »

The thing I hated most about Black Ops was the Animation, feel of playing.
Modern Warfare Character movement is so reactive and smooth.....also shooting a gun in Black Ops was like shooting someone with a pop gun.....just wasn't like MW2.

Yeah, think it was the movement in black ops that was off. I know im in the minority, but i thought the sounds in black ops were great. A grenade or claymore explosion sounded realistic. In Mw2 they sounded like 2000lb bombs.

Leeg17

Shammy wrote: »

I'll be getting it , not too bothered on whether its going to rock my socks or not .
A big part of the enjoyment of online gaming is who you play with , I'm lucky to have good banter with lads from on here , RL friends and mates who i've known for years on live.
For me its about enjoying the whole experience and not just whether the game lives up to expectation or not (media hype eh :pac:)

Exactly, it's what a good 80% of my friends on PSN will be playing for weeks after release, if not months. To be fair, half the time I go on is only after one of my friends texts me or someone on Boards/Skype is hopping on, so it's partly getting the banter in with the lads as it is with playing the game (whatever game that may be).

I'll hold my final decision on the game, after I've played it for several weeks though

Even if I end up hating it after a few weeks, it's still money spent well IMO, for in the 2 years I've had my playstation now I've bought the following games:
-CoD4
-Mw2
-Blops
-UC2
-GT5
-AC2

For the guts of €250 on games I've gotten 2 years solid entertainment, I'd spend that in 5 nights out by comparison...

Nalz

Shammy wrote: »

I'll be getting it , not too bothered on whether its going to rock my socks or not .
A big part of the enjoyment of online gaming is who you play with , I'm lucky to have good banter with lads from on here , RL friends and mates who i've known for years on live.
For me its about enjoying the whole experience and not just whether the game lives up to expectation or not (media hype eh :pac:)

you still having problems playing with UPC gamers Sham?

Defo buying this even though I'm shyte at it!

r3nu4l

BTW, you all know I probably will end up getting the game, right? I mean, reluctance to buy it is one thing..not buying it is quite another.

Many nights in the past I've reluctantly gone to the pub for a pint... :pac:

Still, I think this time I will actually wait a few weeks before getting it...if I do at all

Paparazzo

r3nu4l wrote: »

BTW, you all know I probably will end up getting the game, right? I mean, reluctance to buy it is one thing..not buying it is quite another.

Many nights in the past I've reluctantly gone to the pub for a pint... :pac:

Still, I think this time I will actually wait a few weeks before getting it...if I do at all

See you outside Game at the midnight release

Shammy

Trilla wrote: »

you still having problems playing with UPC gamers Sham?

Yup mate , upc are still unwilling to peer . I'm not going back to eircom/vodafone and wimax is taking its time to come across the nation

Creasy_bear

How could you not be reluctant? They brought back quickscoping, heart-beat sensers and have somehow managed to make ghost even more powerful than before.......

Assassin packed lobbies.

Very reluctant, but will pre-order it when I pick up Battlefield tomorrow.

GEasy

I'm going to buy it one way or another, that's what everyone else is going to be playing so might as well .

Klair88

Gonna buy it to bitch about it tbh, treyarch are better than IW IMO, zombies is an awesome game and the multiplayers in black ops and WAW are far superior to modern warfares,i think its full of noob-tubers and campers

Skatedude

I'll buy it to see as i loved the cod series till they ruined it with mw2 on the pc. I'm hoping they will have learned by their mistakes for this release

Taltos

I too had been a fan of COD & MW since the early PS2(or 1) days - loved them.
However each of the newer games have just let me down as the gameplay of the single player felt like it was sacrificed for the multiplayer.

Don't get me wrong I enjoy multiplayer (or did until I moved) however my primary motivation has always been campaign mode. The last few where I have to babysit my team mates or get directed to specific spots is just a bit too much for my control freak nature.

I get they have gone more to the war sim route - just not my choice any more. Hope the rest of you enjoy it though.

Ah well - still plenty of old school shooters out there for my simple "kill-kill-kill" nature.

BIGGIEsmall

Reluctant but will buy it I'm certain

V9

I'll take a rehash of MW2 over anything from Black Ops, that horrible, horrible piece of **** game.

EIREHotspur

Do you notice how many people that answered the question "Who is reluctant to buy MW3?" by saying they are not too reluctant to buy MW3.

I think this rules out a thread on Who is Reluctant to buy DLC for MW3.

tonsiltickler

I'm going to get MW3. I know I shouldn't. COD4 was the pinnacle of the series for me. I don't think there's much of an argument that its sequels were any better. More gimmicks every game to disguise the fact that theres nothing new and more annoying things as a result.

I don't want a prestige shop, online stat tracking or weapon proficencies. I just want gun on gun with maybe 3,5,7,11 killstreaks.

senordingdong

Not sure what to make of this COD elite thing....sounds like they are charging extra to play the game online.

Or am I wrong? Can someone explain it to me?

tonsiltickler

Elite is a free online stat tracking system(K/d, win/loss etc). It has certain features, you can get a premium version for a fee. With the premium version you get maps released by the week or month. With the free version the maps will come out in bundle packs just like they did for MW2 and BLOPS. Premium elite users get them a bit earlier too.

EIREHotspur

I have two ps3s.
Will I be able to download the maps to the two of them using my account be it on the free or fee elite version?

Leeg17

EIREHotspur wrote: »

I have two ps3s.
Will I be able to download the maps to the two of them using my account be it on the free or fee elite version?

There's been no confirmation as of yet for the elite version, but in the current map setup you're allowed to download your maps onto up to 5 systems that you own.