Leinster flooding - 24th October 2011

NickDrake · 25-10-2011 11:35am

rosser44 wrote: »

NickDrake wrote: »

"Met Eireann says it expects showers to develop in all areas this evening with up to 70mm of rain expected to fall between now and Tuesday morning." :rolleyes:

We got twice that. Yes twice. QUOTE]

Show me the evidence of this supposed 140+ mm of rain please sir??????

As stated above. RTE news. All over the news lads.

DOCARCH · 25-10-2011 11:35am

NickDrake wrote: »

120mm reported on RTe news last night. And that was at 9pm.

Ehhh? That's the meja or possibly what you might like to hear?

69mm at Dublin Airport

NickDrake · 25-10-2011 11:35am

Cionád wrote: »

I admire your trolling skills, well done.

Trolling. What the hell are you on about. For god sake.

NickDrake · 25-10-2011 11:36am

DOCARCH wrote: »

Ehhh? That's the meja or possibly what you might like to hear?

69mm at Dublin Airport

Where? link?

Jaysoose · 25-10-2011 11:36am

average_runner wrote: »

Easy answer brigade?? Leaves have been on the N7 and Belgard road piling up since early september and none cleared!! Same for N81. Like to explain that?

One preventive mesaure would be a clearance of the leaves, wouldnt of stop it all from happening but should be done a bi weekly basis and not just left there!!

So clearing leaves would have prevented the floods yesterday, any other insights into what could have prevented the situations yesterday save the council actually having the ability to stop it raining?

I get that people are frustrated with the situation but this clamour to find somebody to blame is ridiculous.

Dublin_Gunner · 25-10-2011 11:37am

amadangomor wrote: »

I'm glad I'm living on top of the hill opposite to their.Lived in Tolka vale apts during the last flooding there and my car got caught in the basement,wheels seized up!With all the cars out along the road looks like the basement is flooded again.Hmm building apartments in a flood plain,great planning!!

Sure those apartments subsided a few feet after they were built - as they'd put the foundations on a sand bank on the side of the river :rolleyes:

Dublin_Gunner · 25-10-2011 11:38am

rosser44 wrote: »

Show me the evidence of this supposed 140+ mm of rain please sir??????

"Expect the best, prepare for the worst" springs to mind....

Ally Dick · 25-10-2011 11:39am

Are Priory Hall apartments flooded ?

DOCARCH · 25-10-2011 11:40am

NickDrake wrote: »

Where? link?

http://www.met.ie/latest/yesterday.asp

O.K. - hands up - it was 69.1mm

Wertz · 25-10-2011 11:40am

Absolutely bucketing it down for the past hour in Dundalk...easily as heavy as yesterday. Is that a low pressure sitting off the N Dublin coast?
No major flooding here yesterday that I know of but if this keeps up there will be...

average_runner · 25-10-2011 11:41am

Jaysoose wrote: »

So clearing leaves would have prevented the floods yesterday, any other insights into what could have prevented the situations yesterday save the council actually having the ability to stop it raining?

I get that people are frustrated with the situation but this clamour to find somebody to blame is ridiculous.

Didnt say it would stop all the floods, read the post again before you reply.

I said areas like Belgard etc would of had better chance of not flooding as bad if the leaves were cleared.

Leaves cleared by the council in Lucan where i live beside a river and we didnt flood, used to flood before when leaves werent cleared!!!

Dublin_Gunner · 25-10-2011 11:44am

Jaysoose wrote: »

So clearing leaves would have prevented the floods yesterday, any other insights into what could have prevented the situations yesterday save the council actually having the ability to stop it raining?

I get that people are frustrated with the situation but this clamour to find somebody to blame is ridiculous.

Don't be so silly. No amount of planning is going to complete prevent flooding from the downpour over the past 24 hours.

But damage limitation surely must come into it somewhere?

If we really want to start blaming people, start blaming developers, brown envelope FF merchants, civil service and county council for building sites prone to flooding, not building-in preventative flood measures to area's that have previously flooded, and giving planning permission over the years for the most stupid of developments.

But that's going way too deep into it, and nothing can be done about that now.

There is one service that are capable of preventing at the very least some damage - the council. They did virtually nothing.

Reactive as per usual.

amadangomor · 25-10-2011 11:47am

average_runner wrote: »

Didnt say it would stop all the floods, read the post again before you reply.

I said areas like Belgard etc would of had better chance of not flooding as bad if the leaves were cleared.

Leaves cleared by the council in Lucan where i live beside a river and we didnt flood, used to flood before when leaves werent cleared!!!

Makes sense that a drain clogged with leaves will clear less water than one not clogged.Crazy they don't do more to clear them,a couple million would go a long way in that.Where i live there's still the rotting remains of leaves in spring,blocking footpaths,bike paths etc.

rosser44 · 25-10-2011 11:47am

NickDrake wrote: »

120mm reported on RTe news last night. And that was at 9pm.

Ah yes, the media reported it. Good to see them continuing their fine tradition of sticking to the facts .:rolleyes:

Dublin_Gunner · 25-10-2011 11:49am

rosser44 wrote: »

Ah yes, the media reported it. Good to see them continuing their fine tradition of sticking to the facts .:rolleyes:

Which they receive from Met Eireann.

Would you care to supply the national broadcaster with a more suitable source for local weather information?

Paparazzo · 25-10-2011 11:53am

DOCARCH wrote: »

http://www.met.ie/latest/yesterday.asp

O.K. - hands up - it was 69.1mm

Some people have to blame someone. Met.ie had weather warnings for floods in dublin well in advance.
Some people genuinely didn't see it, but some people did and just choose to ignore it. Either way, if you live in an area that floods, it's your responsibility to be aware of the situation and protect your house, not met.ie

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

"Expect the best, prepare for the worst" springs to mind....

Exactly

barrackali · 25-10-2011 11:59am

Had major problems trying to get home from the city last night.

Here is a quick video of the impact it had on just one estate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6NENq2FaHU

Su Campu · 25-10-2011 12:00pm

Nick, firstly, the guy on last night's news did NOT say 120 mm, he said "up to 100 mm at Casement", which was wrong anyway, as the highest 24-hour total was only 82.2 mm at Casement, and 69 mm at Dublin Airport.

Secondly, Met Éireann DID forecast it. They had warnings out all weekend, and yesterday morning they said there would be "40 - 70 mm, with higher totals over high ground". Most of Dublin's rivers start in the Dublin and Wicklow mountains, and all that rain ends up in the Dublin area. So they were fairly bang on with their predictions, when you consider that these types of frontal waves are notoriously difficult to nail.

Your only contribution here seems to be to slag them off, making up false figures on top of already incorrect RTE figures to support your argument.

rosser44 · 25-10-2011 12:01pm

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Which they receive from Met Eireann.

Would you care to supply the national broadcaster with a more suitable source for local weather information?

I would be very interested in hearing how that news broadcast was worded. Dublin did not have 120mm of rain yesterday.

Dublin_Gunner · 25-10-2011 12:05pm

rosser44 wrote: »

I would be very interested in hearing how that news broadcast was worded. Dublin did not have 120mm of rain yesterday.

You really should read the post above yours.

rosser44 · 25-10-2011 12:05pm

Su Campu wrote: »

Nick, firstly, the guy on last night's news did NOT say 120 mm, he said "up to 100 mm at Casement", which was wrong anyway, as the highest 24-hour total was only 82.2 mm at Casement.

Secondly, Met Éireann DID forecast it. They had warnings out all weekend, and yesterday they said there would be "40 - 70 mm, with higher totals over high ground". Most of Dublin's rivers start in the Dublin and Wicklow mountains, and all that rain ends up in the Dublin area. So they were fairly bang on with their predictions, when you consider that these types of frontal waves are notoriously difficult to nail.

Your only contribution here seems to be to slag them off, making up false figures on top of already incorrect RTE figures to support your argument.

Wish I could thank this twice:D

rosser44 · 25-10-2011 12:05pm

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

You really should read the post above yours.

It was posted as I was writing mine

leroythelegend · 25-10-2011 12:06pm

I'm supposed to be going to the O2 tonight for Lee Evans. It has been confirmed that its going ahead. Can anyone one say whether there will be much trouble driving there this evening?
All help/suggestions welcome.

Dublin_Gunner · 25-10-2011 12:12pm

rosser44 wrote: »

Wish I could thank this twice:D

Contradiction?

They said 'up to' obviously giving a worse case scenario. It didn't quite reach that, so what? Its not an exact science, and they weren't too far off the mark.

To those affected by the flooding, would 80mm or 100mm really make a difference? No. The damage still would have been done, and there were still no preparations in place to try prevent it.

Su Campu · 25-10-2011 12:15pm

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Contradiction?

They said 'up to' obviously giving a worse case scenario. It didn't quite reach that, so what? Its not an exact science, and they weren't too far off the mark.

To those affected by the flooding, would 80mm or 100mm really make a difference? No. The damage still would have been done, and there were still no preparations in place to try prevent it.

The guy said up to 100 mm had ALREADY fallen at Casement. He was wrong.

admiralofthefleet · 25-10-2011 12:16pm

anyone know what rathfarnham is like?

Dublin_Gunner · 25-10-2011 12:17pm

Su Campu wrote: »

The guy said up to 100 mm had ALREADY fallen at Casement. He was wrong.

Being the operative section of the statement. Nothing absolute was stated.

gurramok · 25-10-2011 12:22pm

Floodwater at its height last night at various places
Samuel Beckett bridge

Boardwalk closed

Outside Guinness

North quays

Dodder in Sandymount at its peak

rosser44 · 25-10-2011 12:22pm

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Contradiction?

They said 'up to' obviously giving a worse case scenario. It didn't quite reach that, so what? Its not an exact science, and they weren't too far off the mark.

To those affected by the flooding, would 80mm or 100mm really make a difference? No. The damage still would have been done, and there were still no preparations in place to try prevent it.

I don't understand the point you are trying to make? Met Eireann did their job, warned us about the heavy rainfall that was expected. What happens after the rain falls or as a result of it is out of their hands. I agree with you fully that forecasting is not an exact science and I believe that the media like to twist anything factual they get in order to make a better story.

Why cant we all just get along?:pac:

kingshankly · 25-10-2011 12:23pm

some severe weather last night in Dublin was on a flight that tried to land twice and was all over the place had to divert to Shannon where upto 30 people got many were to afraid to go back( the 11 hour delay in faro didn't help after a tornado took off half the roof )
3 hours later in Dublin it was a beautiful night even though I was 15 hours delayed

Leinster flooding - 24th October 2011

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