Kerbdog's Naomi 'New Net City' Refurb - WiP

KeRbDoG

Hey all,
After a much research and hunting, I finally bought 2 Naomi standup 'New Net City' cabs. The idea is that one is a donor cab, but the donor will be fully working when I'm done but just won't look as well as the main cab.

Before:


New controls & panel installed:


The cab now, but with lots to do - yea can just see the donor cab to the right:


Gotta work on removing the monitor and the two main arms so I can remove the bottom system box and clean that up.
Maybe converting to a sit down machine?
Thinking of painting the whole thing but unsure what colour...white? black? Any suggestions?

I plan to update this thread if I do anything major

CiDeRmAn

I don't know, I think you should pop it into my kitchen, forever!

Andrew76

Congrats on the cabs dude. Love the look of the new cp, very nice!

Steve X2

Well done man.

2 candies is always better than one

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unky chop chop

Yeah lovely looking man..seen that CP somewhere before and loved the look.
Posh b4stard with your "doner" cab as well.Most dream of one and hope for the best
Are they Jamma wired or will you have to convert from JVS?

You should cut the arms on one to make it a sit down and vert monitor..
Colour...bright orange!
Congrats again

Andrew76

Lol talk about going OT, poor Kerbdog's thread is ruined.
I wonder would it be better if the general arcade talk was moved to it's own thread? Would be nice to have a thread for all things arcade related anyway.

Steve X2

Andrew76 wrote: »

Lol talk about going OT, poor Kerbdog's thread is ruined.
I wonder would it be better if the general arcade talk was moved to it's own thread? Would be nice to have a thread for all things arcade related anyway.

Yeah, we dirtied it up a bit all right.
Sorry Kerbdog

I think a general arcade thread(no consoles or anything like that) is a great idea.
Arcade talk 24/7/365 (not a bad thread name ) , but you know how all of use are we'd start talking about consoles and computers in it :pac:

Make it so Andrew

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CiDeRmAn

Sounds like a plan, I'll move your ramblings over there, it'd be good for the rest of us to know where you lot are at any given time, corall the trouble makers so to speak...

Pyongyang

Steve SI wrote: »

Sorry Kerbdog .

Ditto. Sorry chief!

KeRbDoG

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Sounds like a plan, I'll move your ramblings over there, it'd be good for the rest of us to know where you lot are at any given time, corall the trouble makers so to speak...

Would be great if yea could split the thread alright

Small update, 6 button loom now installed! Capcom Vs. SNK fun is to be had!

KeRbDoG

unky chop chop wrote: »

Yeah lovely looking man..seen that CP somewhere before and loved the look.
Posh b4stard with your "doner" cab as well.Most dream of one and hope for the best
Are they Jamma wired or will you have to convert from JVS?

You should cut the arms on one to make it a sit down and vert monitor..
Colour...bright orange!
Congrats again

They are both JVS or JAMMA2(?) at the mo.

On cutting, I think I will need to as I'm finding I'm too tall for the stand up setup. Nervous about cutting tough, but I have the donor cab so if it all goes wrong I can just swap the legs.

Colour, think the missus wouldn't be impressed with a bright orange cab in her new kitchen. Black maybe?

Pyongyang

How about a nice white and magenta?

KeRbDoG

Don't think herself would appreciate that

Maybe just white again?
Right, time to research how to spray paint plastics and metal

Jack burton

We'll I'd paint it white but the silver side covers I'd do black with a either a silver or blue stripe up the middle

Andrew76

Only just noticed but how come the button positions are different for P1 and P2? As in P1 B3 and B6 sit lower than B2 and B5, whereas with P2 they're pretty much level. Is that how they are normally with the NNC?

K.O.Kiki

Andrew76 wrote: »

Only just noticed but how come the button positions are different for P1 and P2? As in P1 B3 and B6 sit lower than B2 and B5, whereas with P2 they're pretty much level. Is that how they are normally with the NNC?

Sega angled the button placement to make it "easier" for 2 tiny Japanese people to sit side-by-side and play.
Which is silly, since all their VS cabs are head-to-head linked machines.

KeRbDoG

Jack burton wrote: »

We'll I'd paint it white but the silver side covers I'd do black with a either a silver or blue stripe up the middle

I'm thinking of using black for all the current white metals/plastics.
Now what version of black? Satin or matt?

I'm guessing for the plastics I will need to fill in the nicks/scuffs with a filler and then prime it - maybe this would suit?
For the metal, I'm thinking this as a primer this might work.

What grade of sand paper would I use? 600? 1200? Wet? Dry? Wet&Dry?

Anyone have any tips on how to do it?

K.O.Kiki

For plastic anything, you want to use a vinyl DYE instead.
Permanent colour change, keeps original texture, only needs 1-2 light coats & is touch-dry in hours, and no primer needed — the only prep is a good wipe-down with warm soapy water (though you could work up to a high-grit sandpaper if the plastic is a bit scuffed).

KeRbDoG

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

For plastic anything, you want to use a vinyl DYE instead.
Permanent colour change, keeps original texture, only needs 1-2 light coats & is touch-dry in hours, and no primer needed — the only prep is a good wipe-down with warm soapy water (though you could work up to a high-grit sandpaper if the plastic is a bit scuffed).

Cheers for the tip K.O.Kiki - thinking I might go down the matt black route, believe that paint would keep the shine on the cab which I'm not looking to keep.
Started last night to fill in the worse damage (nics, scrapes) - worked great but turned out that the filler was stronger than the plastic makes for interesting sanding and sore fingers.
Tonight, 1200 wet/dry sanding and then primer/filler then a sanding then maybe the first coat of matt black...it can go two ways. Great or crap. Fingers crossed

Steve X2

KeRbDoG wrote: »

Cheers for the tip K.O.Kiki - thinking I might go down the matt black route, believe that paint would keep the shine on the cab which I'm not looking to keep.
Started last night to fill in the worse damage (nics, scrapes) - worked great but turned out that the filler was stronger than the plastic makes for interesting sanding and sore fingers.
Tonight, 1200 wet/dry sanding and then primer/filler then a sanding then maybe the first coat of matt black...it can go two ways. Great or crap. Fingers crossed

Are you not sticking with the original colour scheme of the cab?

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KeRbDoG

Steve SI wrote: »

Are you not sticking with the original colour scheme of the cab?

Not planning to since the cab will be in a kitchen/dinning room - need it to blend in as much as it can. Thinking the matt black will help a little. Will prob also look about cutting it down to be a sitdown cab

Pyongyang

KeRbDoG wrote: »

Will prob also look about cutting it down to be a sitdown cab

:eek:

KeRbDoG

Pyongyang wrote: »

:eek:

Turns out I'm too tall for it hurts my back just to play it as I have to stoop down to play.

The conversion to sit down is fairly common - http://www.sega-naomi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1291
They could be bought as a sit down and even conversion kits came from Sega but cost huge money

CiDeRmAn

Oh, you could put it on blocks!
There's tons of them lying around outside there!

KeRbDoG

Harness for the control panel to Mini-PAC finished.

Tested main cab monitor with PC which could output the 640x480 needed. Worked great! Meaning my Mame/Multi-Emu plans are now plug'n'play

Now, still working on the spraying of the cab parts. Thinking I prob won't do it but get someone pro to do it instead

KeRbDoG

So got peeved off today and decided to attempt to spray paint the control panel as a test since I had already filled/primed/sanded it.

Colour of choice - Matt Black.

The result turned out OK I think, good for a first attempt I think. Pics below of the control deck with the controls reattached and the other bits added on.


Close ups



Best bits of advice,
- ensure you have primed/sanded and cleaned the surface before final spraying.
- make sure your spray can of paint is room temperature and shaken well. 5min of a good shake worked for me. Maybe less would do but I will stick with the 5min from now on.
- take your time, many passes. During one spray session don't go over the same section twice as you will only create a blob.
Spray, wait 10-15min, spray, wait 10-15min and repeat until you can't see the primer anymore.

Now to focus on the larger parts...not looking forward to the monitor surround. Many nooks and clip on bits. Might glue them and fill the gaps?

KeRbDoG

Since the control panel went so well I've started to work on the monitor surround parts - taken it all appart and will paint them all separately from advice from a work colleague. Primer already on the smaller parts and the large cover is ready for primer. Need to find something large to protect the wall/floor in the warehouse while I'm painting it

KeRbDoG

The screen front/cover before and after pics after breaking the section apart into 5 parts, sanding, priming, sanding, spraying with a matt black paint and reassembly.




In other news, have the frame legs chopped and now just need to re-add the mounting holes. Will see about putting everything back together and testing before attempting to prep/spray the metal parts

Myrddin

The purists will be up in angst

Very interested to see how this turns out. Some balls cutting up a Candy Cab man!

KeRbDoG

EnterNow wrote: »

The purists will be up in angst

Very interested to see how this turns out. Some balls cutting up a Candy Cab man!

Sure its a New Net City / Naomi Net City cab no fear! ....and I still have that other cab should it all go tits up

Shapey Fiend

Cutting a Naomi down to sit down size is pretty typical behavour even amongst purists. The sit down version which you see in Japan is pretty much exactly that.

I think painting it black is a mistake though. Black plastic cabinets always look cheap to me. I've seen it done to a variety of Net Cities, Egrets and Ponys and it always looks naff.

Steve X2

Shapey Fiend wrote: »

Cutting a Naomi down to sit down size is pretty typical behavour even amongst purists. The sit down version which you see in Japan is pretty much exactly that.

I think painting it black is a mistake though. Black plastic cabinets always look cheap to me. I've seen it done to a variety of Net Cities, Egrets and Ponys and it always looks naff.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Painting an Egret black is a sin dude, don't even talk about it
You might as well drill some holes in it and install some flashing blue leds.

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KeRbDoG

Shapey Fiend wrote: »

Cutting a Naomi down to sit down size is pretty typical behavour even amongst purists. The sit down version which you see in Japan is pretty much exactly that.

I think painting it black is a mistake though. Black plastic cabinets always look cheap to me. I've seen it done to a variety of Net Cities, Egrets and Ponys and it always looks naff.

Matter of opinion - if it was a gloss black I would agree but the matt black looks rather good in person and in those photos

Steve SI wrote: »

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You might as well drill some holes in it and install some flashing blue leds.

Now thats an idea!

Steve X2

KeRbDoG wrote: »

Now thats an idea!

Don't do it man

Although I shouldn't really talk.
If anyone seen my PC they'd give me the ole "bricks, glasshouses" saying.

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Shapey Fiend

There aren't really any black plastic cabinets though so it looks inauthentic. Except the European Atomiswave which looked dog ugly.

Black should be reserved for woodies. Even then I'm not a big fan it just reminds me of the typical Irish arcade machine covered in cigarette burns and painted black to hide the dirt.

KeRbDoG

Shapey Fiend wrote: »

Black should be reserved for woodies. Even then I'm not a big fan it just reminds me of the typical Irish arcade machine covered in cigarette burns and painted black to hide the dirt.

Lucky that my cab was a UK cab so... :cool:

Andrew76

Changing the stock colour of a cab wouldn't be my cup of tea either but atleast you're doing a proper job of it. The quality of that black finish looks pretty good dude. Will be really interesting to see the finished article compared to the second one you have.

Myrddin

Shapey Fiend wrote: »

Black should be reserved for woodies. Even then I'm not a big fan it just reminds me of the typical Irish arcade machine covered in cigarette burns and painted black to hide the dirt.

Like the ones every single one of us here grew up on & loved? There's having a nice cab, & there's taking it too far.

KeRbDoG

Some progress shots - after a LOT of cutting, hacking, grinding I've finally got the cab frame back together to ensure everything lines up.

Decided to just place the plastic covers over the frame to see how they looked note, the base of the control panel has yet to be painted.
Thinking of leaving the system box & legs white, repainting as needed. What yea think?



Gonna need to get a small bar type stool for the thing now.
Note the many many parts and wires all over the floor

Just got a Shuttle PC which will be my emulator box, setting it up now. Need to find a menu system which works and doesn't look like poo.

Pyongyang

Looking good! Although I wouldn't have the skill or patience to lop the legs off a cab. Nice job though, I do hope the monitor will be tated at some point in it's life?!

Jack burton

looking nice.

I still think theres nothing nicer than a pearl white naomi and I couldnt bring myself to cuy the legs but well done on the work. Looking pro!

Pyongyang

Jack burton wrote: »

I still think theres nothing nicer than a pearl white naomi/egret/atomiswave/new astro city/aero city*


*delete as applicable

FYP! (Aero City only because I have a sudden lust for one)

Jack burton

Just goggled aero city, it looks like a G1 transformer in disguise. I want one!

Pyongyang

Jack burton wrote: »

Just goggled aero city, it looks like a G1 transformer in disguise. I want one!

They are truly beautiful, but like my dream cab, the Windy, specialist dealers won't touch them because they are so hard to get parts for.

A shame, the aero city is beautiful. Even has a shmuppy name too!

Jack burton

Well my plan is 2 have to cabs. One stand alone and my candy cab. Dont know what I should be aiming for though. Another candy or find a cool jamma cab

KeRbDoG

Had a little time on my hands today so mounted the screen and re-cabled the cab.

Cab running 'Capcom Vs SNK 2'


Cab running 'Last Blade 2' via the EmuPC

Tomorrow I will bring in the control panel adapter harness I made with the Minipac from Ultimarc. Will get a good feel of it then.

kevin2me

Nice one Kerbdog, Im new to the whole Candy Cabs, So thats my disclaimer to all white argument

But saw a Candy Yesterday and was love at 1st site
Now its time for me to go source one me thinks

This is definitely a Loving restore and Control Panels looks hot as hell
Thanks and keep sharing, Kev

ondafly

saw this pic on Pang's tumblr account - i think it looks ok in black

CathalDublin

Looks savage
I'm not usually a fan of the Naomi standup cabs but cut down they look mental and I think the matt black looks great!

KeRbDoG

Got bored so upgraded the Net Dimm board of the Naomi. 256MB to 512MB.
No use for the extra memory think only one game ever needed the extra RAM

KeRbDoG

Now with added Naomi2 mainboard - for what you might ask? No idea!



Only game I knew (and could play with the controls I have) was Virtual Fighter 4. Looks better than I remember!