Fox News interviewer gets torn a new one.

Crazy Horse 6 · 16-10-2011 8:16pm #1

http://www.observer.com/2011/10/exclusive-occupy-wall-street-activist-slams-fox-news-anchor-in-un-aired-interview-video/

Fox News wants to portray the occupy wall street crowd as directionless, ignorant slackers. That's why they'll NEVER air this video.

orourkeda · 16-10-2011 8:21pm

It (the wall st protest) now gone global with similar protests in major cities across the world so ignoring it cant possible continue.

orourkeda · 16-10-2011 8:25pm

Tearing him a new one might be overstating it somewhat.

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 8:29pm

As a journalist I get angry at the unfair media bashing I sometimes see on boards but jesus do I hate Fox

The Left Hand Of God · 16-10-2011 8:31pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

As a journalist I get angry at the unfair media bashing I sometimes see on boards but jesus do I hate Fox, land of the free my arse

Probably safer coming out as a pedo tbh.

JONJO THE MISER · 16-10-2011 8:32pm

It seems to be kool here to dislike Fox news, its one of my most watched tv networks.

RichieC · 16-10-2011 8:33pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

As a journalist I get angry at the unfair media bashing I sometimes see on boards but jesus do I hate Fox, land of the free my arse

You rarely see journos getting attacked, it's ideologues masquerading as journalists that are getting all the stick. Fox only hires them.

Logical Fallacy · 16-10-2011 8:33pm

orourkeda wrote: »

Tearing him a new one might be overstating it somewhat.

Exactly, the guy politely and articulately expressed his opinion.

End.

maygitchell · 16-10-2011 8:33pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

As a journalist I get angry at the unfair media bashing I sometimes see on boards but jesus do I hate Fox, land of the free my arse

:rolleyes:

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 8:36pm

maygitchell wrote: »

:rolleyes:

what's with the face?

krudler · 16-10-2011 8:41pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

It seems to be kool here to dislike Fox news, its one of my most watched tv networks.

its like a real life onion network

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 8:43pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

It seems to be kool here to dislike Fox news, its one of my most watched tv networks.

Whatever about the Entertainment side but the news is driven by right-wing Republican conservative values and is crazy how biased they are

Cill Dara Abu · 16-10-2011 8:45pm

Fight fight fight

RichieC · 16-10-2011 8:45pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

It seems to be kool here to dislike Fox news, its one of my most watched tv networks.

Some people like their "news" to be only what they want to hear... it can't be helped.

Mark200 · 16-10-2011 8:50pm

The interviewer seemed quite reasonable in that video clip. But fair play to the protesters, he gave good articulate answers.

Cill Dara Abu · 16-10-2011 8:52pm

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

It seems to be kool here to dislike Fox news, its one of my most watched tv networks.

It's like RTE and The Late Late Show, people always giving out about them yet TLLS has huge viewing figures every week.

AhSureTisGrand · 16-10-2011 8:53pm

Of course a for-profit healthcare system doesn't work for him, the fat bastid

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 8:57pm

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

It's like RTE and The Late Late Show, people always giving out about them yet TLLS has huge viewing figures every week.

I wouldn't say the yanks that watch it think it's ****e like we think the LLS is (yet still watch)

You'd be surprised in the numbers of conservative republican Americans willing to swallow Fox propaganda

ringadingding · 16-10-2011 9:21pm

That guy has had a gram of billy whizz

5live · 16-10-2011 9:38pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

As a journalist I get angry at the unfair media bashing I sometimes see on boards but jesus do I hate Fox, land of the free my arse

Wait. Is your arse still locked up? And is there a whole land trying to free it?

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 9:40pm

5live wrote: »

Wait. Is your arse still locked up? And is there a whole land trying to free it?

Einhard · 16-10-2011 9:41pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

As a journalist I get angry at the unfair media bashing I sometimes see on boards but jesus do I hate Fox, land of the free my arse

I think land of the free implies that they're allowed say stuff that you don't agree with....

5live · 16-10-2011 9:42pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

:rolleyes: Land of the free my arse:D

Richard Hillman · 16-10-2011 9:44pm

Looks fake. These left wing anti-capitalists are very untrustworthy with stuff like this.

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 9:46pm

Einhard wrote: »

I think land of the free implies that they're allowed say stuff that you don't agree with....

A news channel shouldn't be a source of opinion, they should be unbiased

Fox news basically pushes their conservative agenda on viewers, have you ever seen Bill O Reilly in action?

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 9:49pm

5live wrote: »

:rolleyes: Land of the free my arse:D

You should look into becoming a sub editor

Einhard · 16-10-2011 9:50pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

A news channel shouldn't be a source of opinion, they should be unbiased

Fox news basically pushes their conservative agenda on viewers, have you ever seen Bill O Reilly in action?

They should? Says who? So you don't think they should be free to publish what they wish? Land of the free indeed!

LaFlammeRouge · 16-10-2011 9:51pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

A news channel shouldn't be a source of opinion, they should be unbiased

Fox news basically pushes their conservative agenda on viewers, have you ever seen Bill O Reilly in action?

That is not a news show though. Its like reading an opinion piece in the Irish Times. Its an opinion program. How do people not understand this???

There is a left wing alternative to Fox News in America, MSNBC. They produce the same opinion shows but with a liberal bias.

5live · 16-10-2011 9:52pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

You should look into becoming a sub editor

Too much spare time. Didnt want to get all 'Eats shoots and leaves' with ya;)

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 9:54pm

Einhard wrote: »

They should? Says who? So you don't think they should be free to publish what they wish? Land of the free indeed!

The very idea of news reporting is to report objectivity on the facts, Fox don't do that because they are backed by a conservative agenda

Why do you get the idea I'm against free speech? One of the first things you learn as a reporter is to be objective and balanced, Fox aren't.

woodoo · 16-10-2011 9:55pm

We are a country that has a lot to protest about yet there is only a few dozen protesting in Dublin. I hope the numbers increase.

Da Shins Kelly · 16-10-2011 9:57pm

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

It's like RTE and The Late Late Show, people always giving out about them yet TLLS has huge viewing figures every week.

I don't think the two are comparable. The Late Late Show is an entertainment show first and foremost. Fox is supposed to be a news source providing unbiased information. It doesn't really do that. It has a clear right-wing agenda and anchors like Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity who are just loose cannons sometimes. It's not exactly 'fair and balanced'. There are definitely people who accept a lot of what's spouted on Fox to be fact, too, when really all they spout is opinion.

**Timbuk2** · 16-10-2011 9:58pm

OP, it took me ages to realise that you wrote half of that sentence in a slightly different coloured font. Was tilting the screen for ages, thinking it was dirt or something, before I copped it!

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 9:59pm

LaFlammeRouge wrote: »

That is not a news show though. Its like reading an opinion piece in the Irish Times. Its an opinion program. How do people not understand this???

There is a left wing alternative to Fox News in America, MSNBC. They produce the same opinion shows but with a liberal bias.

Yes it is a news show, that report would have went into a news report. If they have an opinion piece they should have a level debate between two contrasting viewpoints with the fox anchor moderating, that's how TV news opinion works

Fox however often have the moderator join in on the side of the conservative debater in an effort to belittle the liberal or opposition to what Fox want people to think

Some news stations can have certain leanings but Fox take the piss with the level of bias in their reporting, this is a view held by millions in the US not just me

Even in the Simpsons you can see it, the show was never critical of Bush but always jumped at the opportunity to insult Clinton and make him out to be a dirtbag

LaFlammeRouge · 16-10-2011 10:03pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Yes it is a news show, that report would have went into a news report. If they have an opinion piece they should have a level debate between two contrasting viewpoints with the fox anchor moderating, that's how TV news opinion works

No that is your definition of how a TV channel should operate. Remember Fox News is on cable. They can do what they like. And MSNBC functions exactly like Fox News but in the opposite political viewpoint. Their presenters push left wing ideas and agenda.

Einhard · 16-10-2011 10:04pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

The very idea of news reporting is to report objectivity on the facts, Fox don't do that because they are backed by a conservative agenda

Why do you get the idea I'm against free speech? One of the first things you learn as a reporter is to be objective and balanced, Fox aren't.

I just find it amusing that you castigate the American system for their apparent lack of free speech, and your reason for doing so is because they allow broadcasters the freedom to express their own views.

Practically all media outlets have biases- one only has to see that at election time. I presume that you don't censure/censor the Daily Mail or the Guardian for their obvious biases?

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 10:07pm

LaFlammeRouge wrote: »

No that is your definition of how a TV channel should operate. Remember Fox News is on cable. They can do what they like. And MSNBC functions exactly like Fox News but in the opposite political viewpoint. Their presenters push left wing ideas and agenda.

I know perfectly well they can do what they like but the fact that they call themselves a news station is laughable and I hate the conservative bile they brainwash people with.

News is supposed to be about objective reporting, Fox is not, therefore I and a lot of other people dislike it (in a similar way to how I dislike the mail here)

What is wrong with not liking a media outlet?

rossie1977 · 16-10-2011 10:09pm

Einhard wrote: »

They should? Says who? So you don't think they should be free to publish what they wish? Land of the free indeed!

most people are annoyed by how they portray themselves as unbiased with slogans like "fair and balanced", "we report the news you decide", at least jon stewart made chris wallace admit that fox only report on one side so at least thats a start, however they don't even try to hide their bias while still claiming to be neutral, thats never been more evident than in the past 2 weeks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5ENHlAbd9E

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 10:09pm

Einhard wrote: »

I just find it amusing that you castigate the American system for their apparent lack of free speech, and your reason for doing so is because they allow broadcasters the freedom to express their own views.

when did i say anything about an "american system"? My gripe is with Fox

the views only come from one side, that's the problem

Media outlets with one view-point and no objectivity are dangerous

RTE can be a bit biased sometimes but nowhere near the level that fox is

Fox is a a propaganda machine

Einhard · 16-10-2011 10:10pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

I know perfectly well they can do what they like but the fact that they call themselves a news station is laughable and I hate the conservative bile they brainwash people with.

The allegedly brainwashed people could just as validly point out that they believe you to be brainwashed with liberal twaddle.

Too many people think they are in possession of the objective truth. It started out with the conservatives, but unfortunately liberals are adopting it more and more every day.

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 10:11pm

rossie1977 wrote: »

most people are annoyed by how they portray themselves as unbiased with slogans like "fair and balanced", "we report the news you decide", at least jon stewart made chris wallace admit that fox only report on one side so at least thats a start, however they don't even try to hide their bias while still claiming to be neutral, thats never been more evident than in the past 2 weeks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5ENHlAbd9E

+1

It's important to recognise the difference between opinion shows like Chris Wallace which can push their own personal agendas all they want, and supposed objective reporting as seen in the "report" here

AhSureTisGrand · 16-10-2011 10:12pm

In fairness there's a big difference between saying "it's wrong" and "it should be banned". Free speech allows you criticize how others use their free speech

Wompa1 · 16-10-2011 10:13pm

Is there any good tv news?

RTE, BBC, Fox, Sky, CNBC..they all play tricks.

Fox are singled out because they are right wing while most others are left. BBC and CNBC can be atrocious at times too.

Einhard · 16-10-2011 10:14pm

rossie1977 wrote: »

they don't even try to hide their bias while still claiming to be neutral, thats never been more evident than in the past 2 weeks

Surely that's a good thing?

I dislike Fox News as much as you (well actually, I kinda like them cos they make me laugh!), but they have as much right to peddle their spiel as you do.

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 10:14pm

Einhard wrote: »

The allegedly brainwashed people could just as validly point out that they believe you to be brainwashed with liberal twaddle.

Too many people think they are in possession of the objective truth. It started out with the conservatives, but unfortunately liberals are adopting it more and more every day.

I'd hate Fox just as much if their bias was directed from the left rather than the right side of the political spectrum. It's Fox claiming to be balanced when being anything but that bothers me, nothing to do with politics

LaFlammeRouge · 16-10-2011 10:15pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

I know perfectly well they can do what they like but the fact that they call themselves a news station is laughable and I hate the conservative bile they brainwash people with.

News is supposed to be about objective reporting, Fox is not, therefore I and a lot of other people dislike it (in a similar way to how I dislike the mail here)

What is wrong with not liking a media outlet?

Most americans get their news from the terrestrial stations: ABC, NBC and CBS. They go to cable for editorial programming.

AhSureTisGrand · 16-10-2011 10:15pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Even in the Simpsons you can see it, the show was never critical of Bush but always jumped at the opportunity to insult Clinton and make him out to be a dirtbag

Funny that — it was from The Simpsons that I first learnt how terrible Fox News is

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 10:16pm

Einhard wrote: »

Surely that's a good thing?

I dislike Fox News as much as you (well actually, I kinda like them cos they make me laugh!), but they have as much right to peddle their spiel as you do.

I never once said they didn't have the right to do it?! I'm just saying why they I hate them and that people should take what they hear on Fox with a pinch of salt

If you can find a post where I said Fox shouldn't be allowed to say what they do be my guest

Einhard · 16-10-2011 10:18pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

when did i say anything about an "american system"? My gripe is with Fox

Land of the free my arse

the views only come from one side, that's the problem

Are individuals the only ones allowed to express views?

Media outlets with one view-point and no objectivity are dangerous

But there are many very liberal outlets in the US. Indeed, I think the hysteria over Fox is a bit exaggerated considering the US has become far more liberal over the past few decades. The reason Fox et al exists is because the conservatives know they are losing the culture wars. It's the last, angry snap of an injured animal IMO.

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 10:19pm

AhSureTisGrand wrote: »

Funny that — it was from The Simpsons that I first learnt how terrible Fox News is

All the Fox bashing in The Simpsons is in jest, Groening was hardly going to bite the hand that was feeding him

Don't you find it funny that in the 8 years G Bush jnr was president he wasn't made reference to once?

Clinton on the other hand was constantly the subject of jokes, in one episode he looks at the camera, winks and says :"But hey, I was a pretty lousy president"

Fishooks12 · 16-10-2011 10:21pm

LaFlammeRouge wrote: »

Most americans get their news from the terrestrial stations: ABC, NBC and CBS. They go to cable for editorial programming.

why should that mean that they have biased news reporting on top of their editorial?

Fox News interviewer gets torn a new one.

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