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Blatter

Blatter wrote: »

Matt Lawton, Chief Football Correspondent of the Daily Mail.

Heard that last week too.

Iang87

5starpool wrote: »

Ya, I think the bolded bit is a likely outcome. Almost no one will be happy with that result though I'd say.

i agree with this. I'll be happy with no ban but it'll be very unfair if he's tarnished as a racist.

In my opinion this has to go one way or the other.

Suarez guilty - book thrown at him
Suarez innocent - Evra to be looked into for false allegations along with potential disrepute charge

5starpool

killwill wrote: »

I think that would be pretty fair tbh.
Why would you not want that? Apart from the fact you hope he is innocent?

Well you'd have utd fans giving out that he was found to say something, it should have been a ban, and Liverpool fans give out saying that they believed the no intention line as they didn't give him an actual ban, but fudged it just because of who he is.

I personally wouldn't think it was a bad outcome, and both sides could save face, but it would inevitably descend into the same hardline positions we've seen for ages and the discussion would not end.

I just want his head to be in a position to play football for the club, and not actually be banned from doing so.

Edit: Tweet from Oliver Kay of the Times:

OliverKayTimes Oliver Kay
My understanding too RT @Matt_Lawton_DM: It's getting late but feeling is we're going to get a verdict on Suarez tonight

Blatter

My understanding too RT @Matt_Lawton_DM: It's getting late but feeling is we're going to get a verdict on Suarez tonight

That's Oliver Kay of The Times.

rarnes1 wrote: »

Heard that last week too.

I know, heehee.

5starpool

5starpool wrote: »

Edit: Tweet from Oliver Kay of the Times:

The Daily Fail guy just tweeted the exact same thing

Blatter

rarnes1 wrote: »

The Daily Fail guy just tweeted the exact same thing

No, he retweeted him and added in ''My understanding too''

killwill

Iang87 wrote: »

i agree with this. I'll be happy with no ban but it'll be very unfair if he's tarnished as a racist.

In my opinion this has to go one way or the other.

Suarez guilty - book thrown at him
Suarez innocent - Evra to be looked into for false allegations along with potential disrepute charge

Evra believes he was racially abused.
Suarez says he used the word Negro/Negrito but not in a derogatory sense.
Therefore Evra cannot have been bringing the game into disrepute.
It could have been a misunderstanding(I personally don't think so)

Fuhrer

Twitter is very useful.

BREAKING NEWS: Suarez will be charged or not charged by the FA within the next 2 hours or less, or more, maybe tomorrow

Iang87

and roy keane believed he was writing a book and he got done by the fa for bringing the game into disrepute.

Blatter

Dan Roan, BBC football correspondent.

Liverpool FC officials still waiting patiently at Melwood for news on Suarez verdict.

Surely we will get the verdict tonight.

carlcon

killwill wrote: »

Evra believes he was racially abused.
Suarez says he used the word Negro/Negrito but not in a derogatory sense.
Therefore Evra cannot have been bringing the game into disrepute.
It could have been a misunderstanding(I personally don't think so)

That's the key. The word was definitely used, so Evra can't be reprimanded for slander, or any other nonsense people are talking about.

I hate reading opinions from people treating Suarez like a poor little Uruguayan who doesn't know better because of a language barrier. How long did he play in The Netherlands before going to England? If it's just a word that's used in a polite, un-racist context, why didn't this ever come up before while playing with plenty of black people during the peak of his career?

I know footballers get a lot of stick for being stupid, but nobody is that oblivious.

It's going to be an interesting couple of hours...

amiable

carlcon wrote: »

That's the key. The word was definitely used, so Evra can't be reprimanded for slander, or any other nonsense people are talking about.

I hate reading opinions from people treating Suarez like a poor little Uruguayan who doesn't know better because of a language barrier. How long did he play in The Netherlands before going to England? If it's just a word that's used in a polite, un-racist context, why didn't this ever come up before while playing with plenty of black people during the peak of his career?

I know footballers get a lot of stick for being stupid, but nobody is that oblivious.

It's going to be an interesting couple of hours...

He's 24

Blatter

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2011/luis-suarez-20-12-11

Guilty

amiable

guilty 8 game ban

ilovelamp2000

The funnier thing is, he's spot on.

Apologies.

FA statement: Luis Suarez
Tuesday, 20 December, 2011
Independent Regulatory Commission reach conclusion in Suarez case.



An Independent Regulatory Commission has today [Tuesday 20 December 2011] found a charge of misconduct against Luis Suarez proven, and have issued a suspension for a period of eight matches as well as fining him £40,000, pending appeal.

On 16 November 2011, The Football Association charged Luis Suarez with misconduct contrary to FA Rule E3 in relation to the Liverpool FC versus Manchester United FC fixture on 15 October 2011.

A hearing took place from 14-20 December 2011 before an Independent Regulatory Commission of The FA to consider the charge.

The Independent Regulatory Commission announced its decision on 20 December 2011, which is as follows:

Mr Suarez used insulting words towards Mr Evra during the match contrary to FA Rule E3(1);
the insulting words used by Mr Suarez included a reference to Mr Evra's colour within the meaning of Rule E3(2);
Mr Suarez shall be warned as to his future conduct, be suspended for eight matches covering all first team competitive matches and fined the sum of £40,000;
the [penalty] is suspended pending the outcome of any appeal lodged by Mr Suarez against this decision.
The Independent Regulatory Commission will provide written reasons for its decision in due course setting out:

(a) the findings of fact made by it;

(b) the reasons for its decision finding the charge proved; and

(c) the reasons for the penalty.

Mr Suarez has the right to appeal the decision of the Independent Regulatory Commission to an Appeal Board. An appeal must be lodged within 14 days of the date of the written reasons for the decision.

The penalty is suspended until after the outcome of any appeal, or the time for appealing expires, or should Mr Suarez decide not to appeal. The reason for this is to ensure that the penalty does not take effect before any appeal so that Mr Suarez has an effective right of appeal.

mayordenis

Oliver Kay just tweeted

Luis Suarez banned for eight matches, £40,000 fine

J. Marston

Is this real?

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2011/luis-suarez-20-12-11

8 matches and a fine? Well done to FA.

Handsome Bob

Lol, good night and good luck to this ****ing thread.

5starpool

Crap

mayordenis

Setting a huge precedent here, not that I'm against it but any lack of consistancy here is going to be honed in on.

carlcon

amiable wrote: »

He's 24

"so far", I should have said. Hardly relevant though.

5starpool

Bye bye 4th place I'd say now.

Knex*

I think I speak for all of us when I say;

Fuck.

Paul Tergat

interesting.

Leiva

Good luck to a Football Association labeling a person a racist .

Might need a higher court to take this one .

Watch Terry walk !

ilovelamp2000

Not a surprising decision. The more we heard about it the worse it looked.

J. Marston

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

There is no doubt Evra has issues and likes to play the victim what can be done about it is the question. If this plays out like it looks it will, Evra has done a huge disservice to the anti racism campaign in the premiership.

'Sup.

ilovelamp2000

mixednuts wrote: »

Good luck to a Football Association labeling a person a racist .

Might need a higher court to take this one .

Have a look what they found him guilty of.

You're being wilfully ignorant

everdead.ie

Wow thats incredible good luck mods.
If he is guilty I'm glad he's been banned they really should realise evidence though or the FA risks serious ridicule.