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53 Grain Hornady Superformance .223 Data

  • 13-10-2011 12:04pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭


    Chrono'd some 53 grain today.

    Out of my 24 Inch Truflite Barrel.
    3550 Average
    3600 High
    3531 Low.
    10 shot string
    Average is Almost 100fps faster than from Hornady Website.
    Very hot today too!

    No bunnies out though :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    70 fps ES over ten shots? That seems like rather a lot. Especially with the comparatively low average, would mean a big velocity spike over a shot or two. I doubt it'd make a damn bit of difference on game though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    70 fps ES over ten shots? That seems like rather a lot. Especially with the comparatively low average, would mean a big velocity spike over a shot or two. I doubt it'd make a damn bit of difference on game though.

    1 flier 3600
    All others ~3531-3552
    Still faster than rated speed though ;)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    I wouldn't call it a flier. You cannot dimiss the shots that are higher or lower than the average. It was obviously loaded slightly different to the others. I had a similar issue a while ago while chrono-ing some .308 rounds. One round struck 1.5" lower than the previous 4 at 100 yards. When i checked the chrono it was 213 fps slower than the others. All from the same box/batch.

    Had i not had the chrono i would have thought i pulled the shot, etc. When infact it was the round. So with 1.5" at 100 yards the drop (from my set zero based on the other rounds) means at 200 and 300 yards i could possibly miss the target.

    Fact is they exist and are in the box of ammo. So IWM is correct. 69fps ES is fairly big. What was the SD? Ideally you are looking for an ES of approx 25-30 (max) fps.

    Only good thing though is you now know that if a shot drops or climbs and you are sure your hold/POA is spot on then you can almost definitely put it down to one of these "out of the norm" rounds.

    A small tip for chrono-ing rounds. Make sure each round is fired with the same intervals between. IOW do not fire off 3/4/5 rounds quickly. Try fire a round. Wait about 20-30 seconds, then fire again. Wait and fire. It gives the same conditions for each shot (roughly).
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    Great minds Tack.

    I was told by an american friend to get my hands on some of those 53grainers, they're meant to have a great BC...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    I'm familiar with SPC data.
    And manufacturing process.

    We Chrono'd 3 rifles today, so we were fairly consistant. So was Atmospheric pressure, humidity and sunlightfactor.

    I thought folk would be interested with .223 53grain data.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Glensman wrote: »
    Great minds Tack.

    I was told by an american friend to get my hands on some of those 53grainers, they're meant to have a great BC...

    Just punching in time between Deer stalking.
    And compiling Data for my Ballistic Calc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    I thought folk would be interested with .223 53grain data.

    It is interesting Tack, I suppose people are just surprised at the ES figures for the ammo.

    I've never chrono'd anything in my life. I wonder how Hornady Match or HPS ammo would compare.

    Obviously lower speeds but would consistency be better I wonder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    Just punching in time between Deer stalking.
    And compiling Data for my Ballistic Calc.


    What BC is it listed at?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Vegeta wrote: »
    It is interesting Tack, I suppose people are just surprised at the ES figures for the ammo.

    I've never chrono'd anything in my life. I wonder how Hornady Match or HPS ammo would compare.

    Obviously lower speeds but would consistency be better I wonder.

    Nothing would fail for 2/3 Sigma from HPS, but would with Hornady or Others as SPC tolerences would be wider with generic Factory


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Did you note the sigma for the 10 shots of Superperformance Tack?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭declan1980


    That's impressive tack. According to jbm those rounds with a 230yard zero would give you a trajectory with a max height of 1.5" at 145 yards and only 3.7" drop at 300, which would literally turn your rifle into a 300 yard point and shoot foxing machine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭deeksofdoom


    I just can't help thinking every time I read one of your post now that you are shooting from 25m, LOL.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭FISMA


    Chrono'd some 53 grain today.

    How do they compare to the 75gr's?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    I thought folk would be interested with .223 53grain data.

    It is interesting Tack, and fair play for doing it. However you have to expect people to either ask questions or give their bit on it aswell.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    1 flier 3600
    All others ~3531-3552
    Still faster than rated speed though ;)
    That is very fast from a 22" barrel .Probably down to a good chamber and quality match barrel .Not very often factory ammo exceeds its advertised speed ......your lucky ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    tomcat220t wrote: »
    That is very fast from a 22" barrel .Probably down to a good chamber and quality match barrel .Not very often factory ammo exceeds its advertised speed ......your lucky ;)

    No Luck, Paul Chrono'd his .243 and his .308 too.
    The Truflite barrels make Factory ammo sing. And Factory Barrels are slower and Truflite are faster.

    We were only shooting 309 yard sand 350 odd at the Evil Roy for the Craic.
    I got the boys a nice Fallow Buck for their troubles so all were happy.

    Yeah I was very happy with the over all speed of the Superformance, I had tried them out to 300 and odd before but it was not scientific just using hold over, today I clicked it.

    Yes Dec, 53 Superformance, Point and shoot, I could hit a fox sized target at 358 or what ever it was with almost no hold over from a 200 yard zero.
    Handy as a Pot under a bed ;)

    The boys just left my Gaff on the way to Kerry so,
    Safe Home Lads!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 566 ✭✭✭Tikkat3


    Looks good Tac

    Must try and get my hands on some of these, if I can get them locally.

    Would like to know how they would go out of a tikka tactical 24 inch .223

    Dont have a chrono but still want to given them a go. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    Hearing some great stuff about them True-Flight barrels :cool:.Standard rifling or canted ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    tomcat220t wrote: »
    Hearing some great stuff about them True-Flight barrels :cool:.Standard rifling or canted ?

    Cant remember, 1/8 twist 24" Match Crown.

    http://www.truefliteriflebarrels.co.nz/13544/5112.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    Cant remember, 1/8 twist 24" Match Crown.

    http://www.truefliteriflebarrels.co.nz/13544/5112.html
    Just had read through the site and yes they use a canted type rifling in all their barrels:eek:.Might explain the extra speed and down range performance your getting with those barrels :cool::cool:.Sure would have been nice if they done a 1/7.5 twist for a 6mm !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    tomcat220t wrote: »
    Just had read through the site and yes they use a canted type rifling in all their barrels:eek:.Might explain the extra speed and down range performance your getting with those barrels :cool::cool:.Sure would have been nice if they done a 1/7.5 twist for a 6mm !

    Wait until my .308 Gets one :D

    I mostly wanted to show that the Superformance are FAST, but the odd one is loaded hotter, cooler so be conscious of that when Zero'ing

    And they make a Damn fine Fox Round


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    Well if its any it to go by, most guys using the hornady superformance find the same results .....not very consistant after 2-3 shots .It only has to be good for the first 2 for hunting ,imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 566 ✭✭✭Tikkat3


    Tried to order 100 of them from an irish online supplier but apparently their supplier wont have any until early in the new year :eek:

    Anyone know anywhere in the west that stocks them? Or would anyone like to swap a box of them for a box of Federal powershok 64gr? I am just mad keen to try the Superformace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    tomcat220t wrote: »
    Well if its any it to go by, most guys using the hornady superformance find the same results .....not very consistant after 2-3 shots .It only has to be good for the first 2 for hunting ,imo.

    i cronoed the 95gr sst superformance and i was getting around 3250fps on AV with my sako/trueflight .243.
    hornady has them advertised as 3185fps


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Seems to be a common theme for Superperformance. The .308 stuff is marked as 3,000fps and i chrono'd them at 3185 ave out of a factory 24" barrel.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    poulo6.5 wrote: »
    i cronoed the 95gr sst superformance and i was getting around 3250fps on AV with my sako/trueflight .243.
    hornady has them advertised as 3185fps
    Thats some M/V for 95 gr . Quality match barrel should have an effect on velocity. Must make an excellent round for mr deer :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 566 ✭✭✭Tikkat3


    Does anyone know of an RFD that has them in stock in .223 and will courier them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭declan1980


    Tack, if you get the chance, would you chrony some of the regular 55gr v-max stuff to see if the canted lands have any affect on their velocity or is it just the superformance themselves that are producing the higher velocities anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    declan1980 wrote: »
    Tack, if you get the chance, would you chrony some of the regular 55gr v-max stuff to see if the canted lands have any affect on their velocity or is it just the superformance themselves that are producing the higher velocities anyway

    Just back from another 2 week holiday.
    I have no 55 grain stuff to chrono Dec, and I have no intention buying any any time soon.

    I am very happy with the 53 grain stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    Just back from another 2 week holiday.
    I have no 55 grain stuff to chrono Dec, and I have no intention buying any any time soon.

    I am very happy with the 53 grain stuff.

    Nice for some! ;)

    The 55gr are flat-based rather than BT, I wouldn't be fussed on them.
    and they are a **** to load.
    Once I shoot out my 50gr heads I'm gonna get the 53gr...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭declan1980


    I chrono'd some 53gr superformance today, and I didn't get any where near tack's velocities. My average velocity was 3430fps, highest was 3441, lowest was 3406. I shot a little under a 1" 5 shot group at 225 with them, buy I'm sure I can do better tomorrow. I'm very happy with them so far since this is the closest I've ever gotten to advertised velocity out of my rifle. I think they're going to be a deadly foxing round


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭dev110


    declan1980 wrote: »
    I chrono'd some 53gr superformance today, and I didn't get any where near tack's velocities. My average velocity was 3430fps, highest was 3441, lowest was 3406. I shot a little under a 1" 5 shot group at 225 with them, buy I'm sure I can do better tomorrow. I'm very happy with them so far since this is the closest I've ever gotten to advertised velocity out of my rifle. I think they're going to be a deadly foxing round

    Can I just ask what is your twist rate in your barrel?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭declan1980


    dev110 wrote: »
    Can I just ask what is your twist rate in your barrel?

    1:8 twist


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    declan1980 wrote: »
    I chrono'd some 53gr superformance today, and I didn't get any where near tack's velocities. My average velocity was 3430fps, highest was 3441, lowest was 3406. I shot a little under a 1" 5 shot group at 225 with them, buy I'm sure I can do better tomorrow. I'm very happy with them so far since this is the closest I've ever gotten to advertised velocity out of my rifle. I think they're going to be a deadly foxing round

    I look forward to tomorrows updates. I'm working so no fun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭dev110


    declan1980 wrote: »
    1:8 twist

    Them custom Trueflite must be magic :D

    I taught I had a theory that Hornady used a slower twist like 1-12 as the custom barrels were getting faster speeds with faster twist rates but you blew up that theory :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    declan1980 wrote: »
    I chrono'd some 53gr superformance today, and I didn't get any where near tack's velocities. My average velocity was 3430fps, highest was 3441, lowest was 3406. I shot a little under a 1" 5 shot group at 225 with them, buy I'm sure I can do better tomorrow. I'm very happy with them so far since this is the closest I've ever gotten to advertised velocity out of my rifle. I think they're going to be a deadly foxing round

    They preformed well tonight Dec.181816.jpg

    We must do it again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭declan1980


    They preformed well tonight Dec.181816.jpg

    We must do it again.

    They sure did alright. You won't feckin believe this, but as I was driving away last night a feckin huge fox ran out onto the road in front of me not fifty yards from where we had the cars parked. Is that a classic case of murphys law or what.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭lee70


    Here's a ballistics gel test upload for the 52gr Hornady Superformance in .223



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Awesome wound channels.

    I have seen the damage on a fox, and it is deadly.
    Perhaps the best fox round in a while, I can't wait to push them past 350.
    I've not had a chance with the days so short.


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