Have you ever watched Wheeler Dealers and.....

Magown3

all you want to do after it is go out and buy whatever car was on the show you just watched??

Just watched the DeLorean one and I have to say, I enjoyed it. The format gets a little tired i suppose (Mike comes into garage just before 30 min ad break and breaks Ed's balls about not doing anything on the car) but I still really enjoy the show.

It was probably the main reason I bought my first car, a white Peugeot 205 GTi.


Gonna search for DeLorean's now.... Not that I can afford one

darragh o meara

Flight booked leaving next week to go buy one. Won't bother about a return ticket cos when this baby hits 88 miles per hour we're gonna see some pretty weird s hit.

Would love to get one but bringing it here you just know revenue are gonna be throwing a party when the hear it's coming with all the import duty, vat & VRT they'll be getting.

However I have a list of cars that I will own in my life and that's close to the top of the list and yes I will make it my mission in life to get one!!

jetsonx

It's a great show alright. Ed's narration of what he is doing with the
car coupled with some excellent camera work and catchy music make it
very watchable TV. You wait as in earnest as some 20 year old rusty
bumper or piston heads are removed and replaced with brand new ones and you get to see a whole car restored to it's former glory within an 1hr.

and yes your Peugeot 205gti is a classic.

FGR

Bangernomics at it's finest. I get the same feeling when watching Wrecks to Riches.

I'd gladly sell my own 2010 car and buy a car that's been restored by these guys.

That or a business that specialises in it. I'd say there's money to be made in an industry that would purposefully go out and record all repairs/mods done to a car to restore it to showroom condition. They'd have to be more expensive than the show though to factor in the actual cost of labour.

Magown3

ForegoneReality wrote: »

That or a business that specialises in it. I'd say there's money to be made in an industry that would purposefully go out and record all repairs/mods done to a car to restore it to showroom condition. They'd have to be more expensive than the show though to factor in the actual cost of labour.

You're right, the cars would have to be FAR more expensive because of the labour so I'm not so sure there's a business there. The amount of labour and parts that would be needed for most cars would make the cars very expensive.

Take this car for example.
A nut and bolt restore which has turned out fantastically..... but someone on boards has put it on the "Dreamer of the year" thread

People go on about the fact that Mike and Ed never take the labour into account when selling on the car but that's not the point of the program really. The point is, it's entertaining for the car enthusiast who aspires to own a garage with a 2 post lift and a sh1t load of tools so they can attempt it some day on their own dream car.

P.S. Although there's only been 2 shows in the series so far, I'm enjoying it more than other series'.

copeyhagen

i watch it sometimes, but its ridiculous.

they buy a car for £2000 which is already a bargain.
they put in £2000 pound for parts and paint (AND thats not including labour.
they sell the car to some mug who just got the deal of his life for £4100 and think they have done a great job making 100 pound profit....

when in reality they have lost about 1k from labour

Magown3

copeyhagen wrote: »

i watch it sometimes, but its ridiculous.

they buy a car for £2000 which is already a bargain.
they put in £2000 pound for parts and paint (AND thats not including labour.
they sell the car to some mug who just got the deal of his life for £4100 and think they have done a great job making 100 pound profit....

when in reality they have lost about 1k from labour

See my post RIGHT ABOVE YOURS!

That's not the point of the program! Jesus!

copeyhagen

i read your post.

any old tom dick or harry isnt gonna be able to chieve what they do, hence why if you search done deal for "unfinished project" there will be hundreds of cars and bikes that never got past 20%

you think an average joe has the access to a paint shop and a oven for free?

so yes, the labour does matter. and they should at least mention how much the labour on the car would cost in the real world

Mycroft H

copeyhagen wrote: »

i watch it sometimes, but its ridiculous.

they buy a car for £2000 which is already a bargain.
they put in £2000 pound for parts and paint (AND thats not including labour.
they sell the car to some mug who just got the deal of his life for £4100 and think they have done a great job making 100 pound profit....

when in reality they have lost about 1k from labour

And you do not think that they get there wages from the shows producers?

Anyways its a decent show and both the lads seem to love what they do

unkel

copeyhagen wrote: »

so yes, the labour does matter. and they should at least mention how much the labour on the car would cost in the real world

Or at least mention how many hours Ed spent working on the car

Turbulent Bill

copeyhagen wrote: »

you think an average joe has the access to a paint shop and a oven for free?

Neither do they, costs for painting and spare parts are always included (though I doubt they pay the full rate).

It isn't pitched as a business programme - the main issue is getting the car back to a decent standard. For an enthusiast looking to restore a car to keep (rather than sell on) the labour time/cost isn't a big problem, just part of the process.

I'm guessing the cars are priced for a quick sale too.

jk536

copeyhagen wrote: »

i read your post.

any old tom dick or harry isnt gonna be able to chieve what they do, hence why if you search done deal for "unfinished project" there will be hundreds of cars and bikes that never got past 20%

you think an average joe has the access to a paint shop and a oven for free?

so yes, the labour does matter. and they should at least mention how much the labour on the car would cost in the real world

Ed regularly mentions how much different jobs would cost to get done in a garage and painting costs are always in the breakdown.The profit is not the point of the show.they say themselves its about getting a classic back in good condition and on the road.The show appeals to people, like myself, who want to find the car they have wanted since they were 15 for a bargain and restore it to its former glory.It may never happen but its nice to think you could do it.

I thought the show was losing a bit of steam around the "on the road" series but im loving this one so far.they really cant go wrong with the cars they are getting though.

L-M

I think it's a good show, very watchable.

Although, each and every time a thread comes up praising it the same band wagon of "OOhh they don't count in Eds labour" comes along. It's a TV show FFS.

thirtythirty

Limerick man wrote: »

Although, each and every time a thread comes up praising it the same band wagon of "OOhh they don't count in Eds labour" comes along. It's a TV show FFS.

Agree. Also, when I bought new wheels for my car for the exact same price I sold my old wheels for and fitted (and balanced) them myself - I don't bloody count how long it took me to fit them! It was a saturday and it was that or sit on the couch. I got an upgrade for free!

When you're doing something for yourself, there is no monetary labour cost.

Now if someone was buying cars and doing them up instead of earning money doing another job, then maybe you'd count labour.

Great show though - was amazed how many years they took of the Lexus LS by getting rid of the coloured indicators!

will1977

What channel and day/time is it on ??

vengeance52

will1977 wrote: »

What channel and day/time is it on ??

Discovery on Tues at 9pm. Channel 520 on sky or there abouts.

I love the show so far and the Charger in Ep1 is one of my all time faves.

unkel

Limerick man wrote: »

"OOhh they don't count in Eds labour" comes along. It's a TV show FFS.

Would just like to see the number of hours, just out of interest. If only to see what great value the eventual buyer is getting

L-M

unkel wrote: »

Would just like to see the number of hours, just out of interest. If only to see what great value the eventual buyer is getting

Yeah, the number of "cuts" they do would be included too, yeah? :P

VolvoMan

I think I lot of people miss the point of this show. The main aim (despite what they say) is not to turn a profit, but to bring classic cars back from the brink and make a small bit of money back on them when they do. The fact that Ed is paid by the TV station means that no labour bills are necessary.

I think 'Wheeler Dealers' in general was a poor name for the show. It suggests a car program where they buy cars to solely turn them around for a quick profit (much like other shows Mike has done in the past).

L-M

VolvoMan wrote: »

I think I lot of people miss the point of this show. The main aim (despite what they say) is not to turn a profit, but to bring classic cars back from the brink and make a small bit of money back on them when they do. The fact that Ed is paid by the TV station means that no labour bills are necessary.

I think 'Wheeler Dealers' in general was a poor name for the show. It suggests a car program where they buy cars to solely turn them around for a quick profit (much like other shows Mike has done in the past).

Correct,

"Wheeler Dealers is a British television series produced by Attaboy TV for the Discovery Channel, fronted by Mike Brewer and mechanic Edd China with assistance from technical advisor Paul Brackley. The premise of the show is that Brewer and China are on a mission to save repairable enthusiast vehicles, by repairing or otherwise improving an example of a particular make and model to a budget, then selling it to a new owner."

jame5_b

unkel wrote: »

Would just like to see the number of hours, just out of interest. If only to see what great value the eventual buyer is getting

Mike has said before it takes ed about 2 weeks to complete each car so thats about 10-12 days.

unkel

Limerick man wrote: »

on a mission to save repairable enthusiast vehicles"

Ah c'mon. "Save" vehicles? It's not like they are saving any car from the crusher, is it? It's not even that they buy cars that are off the road / have major problems

But I suppose a program about full nuts and bolts restorations would loose the program about 95% of its audience

That said, I do like the program though. I don't even mind cheesy Mike - his enthusiasm is really nice

Did anyone know that the Porsche 928 they did is now on Irish plates?

Stheno

unkel wrote: »

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Did anyone know that the Porsche 928 they did is now on Irish plates?

The one Mike bought from one of his mates?

I love the show, myself and the oh watch the reruns every evening at six if we are home on time

pred racer

unkel wrote: »

Ah c'mon. "Save" vehicles? It's not like they are saving any car from the crusher, is it? It's not even that they buy cars that are off the road / have major problems

When they did the original series the budget was 1 or 2k and the cars they bought then you could see heading to the scrapyard in another year without someones intervention. ( the mx5 springs to mind)

Ill agree that its not really the case in the last couple of series.

WhiteMike

Its a good show right up until the end where the half hearted haggling annoys me

Damokc

Stheno wrote: »

The one Mike bought from one of his mates?

I love the show, myself and the oh watch the reruns every evening at six if we are home on time

Same as that though I think she just watches cos I endure all the soaps! I think we've seen em all now. Favourites would be the Audi Quattro and the Lancia Delta Intagrale. The Impreza one was good too but then they DESTROYED the car by putting two big stupid racing stripes up the middle.

Magown3

So, to get back to my original question? Has anyone actually gone out and given it a go? Bought a car they had drooled over many moons ago and put a heap of hours into it?

Pdfile

Magown3 wrote: »

all you want to do after it is go out and buy whatever car was on the show you just watched??

Just watched the DeLorean one and I have to say, I enjoyed it. The format gets a little tired i suppose (Mike comes into garage just before 30 min ad break and breaks Ed's balls about not doing anything on the car) but I still really enjoy the show.

It was probably the main reason I bought my first car, a white Peugeot 205 GTi.


Gonna search for DeLorean's now.... Not that I can afford one

their being remade in america, so buy them and avoid the irish scrap :P

MagicMarker

WhiteMike wrote: »

Its a good show right up until the end where the half hearted haggling annoys me

I don't even watch that, when the work is done I change the channel.

MetzgerMeister

Magown3 wrote: »

So, to get back to my original question? Has anyone actually gone out and given it a go? Bought a car they had drooled over many moons ago and put a heap of hours into it?

I did! I bought my gran's 1995 Renault5 and did an Ed on it. It only had 19,000 miles on it but was sitting up for a year and a half due to her failing eyesight. Here's what I did:

> Replaced front bumper
> Replaced fan
> Changed brake pads/shoes
> Resprayed all the plastic parts that had faded over the years
> Got the windscreen replaced
> Got 2 new wing mirrors and installed them
> Replaced rear windscreen wiper & mechanism
> Resprayed the steel wheels & hubcaps
> Fixed quite a few rust spots (grinding, fibreglass, filler, primer, paint, lacquer)
> Got 4 new tryes
> Serviced it (oil, filter, coolant, air filter, plugs, belts)
> New battery
> New wipers front and back
> Washed it/clayed/polish/wax
> Completely valeted the whole interior

I did everything myself apart from the windscreen and tyres and sold the car for a nice little profit.

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MetzgerMeister

I would be interested to know if anyone else did something similar?

Mc Love

Just watched an episode yesterday and they bought a Ford Sierra Cossie - some amount of power and the speed of the yoke. Want to get one now

JP 1800

I watched the episode with the Volvo P1800 and I had to laugh a bit, the work they called a restoration was just some servicing of the car such as carbs and sorting the cylinder head for unleaded, also how did Mike not know the suspension was knackered since he owns one himself. I still found it interesting as a P1800 owner myself.

Clooney George

It's an excellent display good. Ed's narration of what he is doing with the
car as well as some fantastic photographic camera operate and different audio make it
very viewable TV.

couldntthink

Quite an entertaining show on the whole. Mike is very irritating though. Ed makes a lot of the work sound easy and I'm sure a lot of people have tried to do what he's doing and not been quite as successful.

I also have an issue with the final price. I know it's a tv show and they make their money from that side of things and not from the actual car. But Mike is always harping on about how much they're gonna make and he seems delighted if he makes 50 quid.

Also the haggling scenes are quite comical. They might as well be holding a script while they're haggling.

Why does Mike hardly ever let Ed drive the car at the end.

Anyone ever watched Overhaulin'? A different format to Wheeler Dealers obviously. But what they do with the cars is amazing.

Chriscl1

I enjoyed watching about the ls400. Lovely machine.

Yakuza

Fire-engine red F-reg ('88) 635 CSI. That is all.

barura

Between that show and some other factors, I would probably still not be driving right now.

It's good! And it makes you think of ways to fix things.

166man

I loved that blue 840i that they did which was actually bought by an Irish bloke.. One thing I always wonder though, why do they never mention the mileage of the car's they buy?

The Guvnor

I love the show.

Edd has some level of patience and at what 6ft7 he is not exactly built for fiddly mechanics on small motors!:D

I just wish every car sale was as easy as Mike makes it look!

I'd not have the skill nor patience to fix up a car but the missus likes the idea of tinkering with a car!

dr.fuzzenstein

einheisserschre wrote: »

I would be interested to know if anyone else did something similar?

Well, in my case it's more the daily upkeep of our two cars.
Servicing, fixing bits as they go wrong, on her car the ignition pack, catalytic converter, doing the brakes and so on and so forth.
Have had a few old bangers, one of them a 1984 Merc 200 that was parked under a tree for a year, lots of trim bits, interior, fix a waterleak on the engine, some rust cleaned up, done some (terrible) paintwork and sold it for pittance.
A 1987 VW Transporter, did lots of bodywork on it (had loads of dents), didn't turn out too bad in the end, had it resprayed in purple and it turned out awesome!
Not so much buying a car and selling it on, but I watch the show and think "I can do that!", so I give it a go.
Now only need garage every once in a blue moon.

corktina

to quote Paul Horsfield " (yorkshire accent required) he's alright, is Edd China"