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Are Europeans Becoming More Hated/Distrusted In America Now??

  • 06-10-2011 4:18pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭


    So I'm reading over the Amanda Knox case over the Huffingtonpost, Youtube, Cbs News, Abc News etc and all the comments from the Americans I've read seem to have a distain hatred towards Europe and Europeans now. So much so that I've concluded two things:

    1. She was only arrested because she was an American
    2. It's un-American it's travel to europe or even to travel abroad in the first place.

    Now I'm sure there's around 50-100 million Americans who would wish for Europe nuked off the planet tomorrow if they could (Rush Limbaugh, Glenn types). Here are some comments from the left wing Huffingtonpost:

    "Lorraine Brewer
    I would never ever step foot in Italy and for that matter....­..never ever step foot out of the United States for any reason....­.God Bless America!!!­!

    Mariah Dailey
    Omg She is finally out of that Hell Hole!! Not feelin any love for Italy that's for sure. Wont catch me wanting to ever visit either.

    ziggystardust
    I'm guessing Americans vacationin­g in Italy has plummeted because of this. I know I would think twice.

    ProgressiveChange
    If the United States can kill an alleged American terrorist with a drone and without trial, it could have rescued Amanda Knox from this ordeal. America often acts first and answers questionsl later.


    Byjack007
    STAY HOME...if you can afford a vacation, take it here in the USA (Florida, Hawaii), or a safe place like Canada.

    MsG7
    I know she wants nothing to do with anything Italian ever again.....­lol......n­ot a slice of pizza or anything..­.and I don't blame her....She said she wants to lay down on American grass...

    If I were her, I would kiss the ground as soon as I touched down in good ole U.S. of A.....I'd be spread eagle face down as soon as I got off the plane....l­ol..

    lindanfla
    I be she doesnt leave the good ole USA no time soon.....w­hy these kids think they have to study in different countries I will never understand there are very good schools right here in the United States....­they ony end up in trouble of god forbid dead

    Pikilina
    Ital­y is definitell­y a very unsafe country, scary send your kids there, especially if Americans, they hate Americans so much and it has been like that ALWAYS,jea­lousy of when America used to be a great country, however wellcome Italians have always been received here....

    akutan
    I bet US colleges don't seem too bad to her now.

    jrfromdallas
    I bet she never eats italian food again.

    Maribeth79
    Long over due!
    This is why Americans need to stay in the good old USA. That case against her was a total sham. They have taken years of her life that cant be replaced not to mention the mental anguish.

    dkazoroski
    The Italian government unlawfully held an American citizen for four long years - time for the US to get some guts and make 'em pay dearly for THEIR crime!! Shoot'em down!!

    gwats1957
    A little advice? Go home to the USA, and NEVER leave again, not even for a weekend in Mexico. Some things crawl out of the shell, and get eaten immediatel­y. Italians forgive, but they rarely forget.

    Shirleyn48
    With all the violence today (particula­rly against female college students) its best to keep your kids at home. If there is a college near your home, have your kids live at home while attending. Play it safe!

    Hermadite
    The real lesson here is to stay out of foreign countries. For starters, watch the movie "Midnight Express." You will tear up your passport and never travel overseas again! Don't press your luck. Stay home and survive!"

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/03/amanda-knox-verdict-_n_992798.html

    There was plenty more. The thing is, these were from a liberal site in America, so God knows what Fox readers think, probably want the whole of europe nuked like I say.

    You know, despite what some Americans think Italy is not a third world country. Look we know it's corrupt, anyone who follows their football will know that. But I don't buy this attitude that she was just targetted because she was an American, sorry I don't.

    And why is it so unpatriotic (as one American on Youtube was telling me) to travel abroad?? Almost unamerican like??

    There's calls for a lot boycotts to Italy because of this. Some of the far right probably want a war. Were they even burning Italian flags in Seattle??

    It's a shame because I would like to see more Americans come abroad, but there seems to be a recurring theme of criticizing Americans who do go abroad now. I've been to Italy and don't think it's all that bad of a country personally or bad as some of these guys are making out. Is there a lot of hatred and anger towards europeans these days in America??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Americans are really living up to their reputation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    If they're ignorant enough to generalize an entire continent I don't think I'd want them to come over.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,555 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    i wonder sometimes if there are americans reading boards.ie, talking to their american friends about how retarded all irish people are.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    i wonder sometimes if there are americans reading boards.ie, talking to their american friends about how retarded all irish people are.

    doubt it,they speak american,we speak european.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    This is what happens in any high profile tourist or visitor incident.

    Like that Shark death in Egypt I am sure will put a dint on tourist numbers.

    The Italian police did fukc up and I think her been American didn't help.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    I would put more value on the deaths of thousends of American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan than worry to much about American opinon on one lone female who got ''herself '' into some serious trouble in Italy .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Americans are really living up to their reputation
    Seachmall wrote: »
    If they're ignorant enough to generalize an entire continent I don't think I'd want them to come over.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    The lesson here is clear, never read the comments section.
    Of anything.

    Nothing good has ever been posted there, and never will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭Gandhi


    i wonder sometimes if there are americans reading boards.ie, talking to their american friends about how retarded all irish people are.

    Any foreign AH readers are probably wondering if anyone in Ireland ever does anything all day other than blasting each other with pi$$.

    Most of those comments probably come from people who never would have gone to Italy (or anywhere else) anyway, and use this as justification. Millions of Americans have gone to Italy and the vast, vast majority have not been accused of murdering anyone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Hermadite
    The real lesson here is to stay out of foreign countries. For starters, watch the movie "Midnight Express." You will tear up your passport and never travel overseas again! Don't press your luck. Stay home and survive!"



    This is my favourite,never travel again because you saw a film about a drug smuggler in turkish prison.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    In fairness, a hell of a lot of Europeans stereotype Americans as fat, crass and stupid. We can't really complain all that much if they start to reciprocate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    The Italian government unlawfully held an American citizen for four long years - time for the US to get some guts and make 'em pay dearly for THEIR crime!! Shoot'em down!!
    I found this rather ironic


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,919 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Wait, was Amanda Knox released?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Gee Bag wrote: »
    In fairness, a hell of a lot of Europeans stereotype Americans as fat, crass and stupid. We can't really complain all that much if they start to reciprocate.

    but the thing is,a lot of americans are Fat,crass and stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Gnobe wrote: »
    And why is it so unpatriotic (as one American on Youtube was telling me) to travel abroad?? Almost unamerican like??

    ffs man, youtube commentators are pretty much the bottom of the food chain. Apart from commentators on thejournal.ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    Seachmall wrote: »
    If they're ignorant enough to generalize an entire continent I don't think I'd want them to come over.

    sure they're an entire continent unto themselves, determined their way is the only way. I'm sure they see the countries of Europe as states, Particularly now with an ould enemy pulling the purse strings

    only Americans I generally like come from the south, pico.. u know sports is a good indicator, why are they so curiously crap at otherwise world games? they didn't invent em, so they're not having it. I hope folks are not naive enough to follow their own 'world' games or suck up to 'superpower' nations regardless. cos they're inherently arrogant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    LH Pathe wrote: »

    u know sports is a good indicator, why are they so curiously crap at otherwise world games?

    They get to be winners every year :)

    The Superbowl winners call themselves World Champions
    And the winner of the baseball World Series is always from North America

    Can you imagine if Dublin called themselves World Champions at Gaelic Football. They'd be ridiculed for it :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Gandhi wrote: »
    Any foreign AH readers are probably wondering if anyone in Ireland ever does anything all day other than blasting each other with pi$$.

    Most of those comments probably come from people who never would have gone to Italy (or anywhere else) anyway, and use this as justification. Millions of Americans have gone to Italy and the vast, vast majority have not been accused of murdering anyone.
    We've always been led to believe that many Americans dont have a great knowledge of countrys outside their own and many , many millions dont have passports because everything they have or want to see is right there at home .This only confirms it although I would not think it applys to the many who do have knowledge of Europe and the wider world and will continue to travel abroad ( except maybe to Canada :pac: )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    mikemac wrote: »
    Can you imagine if Dublin called themselves World Champions at Gaelic Football. They'd be ridiculed for it :pac:
    well teams from the UK (London) and USA (New York) compete so.....inter-continental champions maybe :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,370 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    It depends.

    I met plenty of American exchange students when I was in college, one of them's now a very good friend. He told me he votes Democrats but on a "lesser of two evils" principle. The others seemed excited about being in Europe and I remember a group of them went to Italy and Morocco. They had no trouble there and no complaints about those places.

    I've never met a conservative American living in Europe. All the Americans I've met that are living here have been open-minded and wanted to explore new places and generally seem unhappy with what they have to put up with in the USA. A lot of them make jokes about "American freedom" and look back on the country with the same disdain that most Europeans look at it. It's definitely not the case that all Americans are as ignorant and narrow-minded as those ones posting that drivel quoted. Sadly, every country has it's idiots and every country has those people who want to get away from the idiots. Unfortunately, there's just a lot more idiots in America and they are a lot louder.

    Also, I lolled at the ones whining about unlawful imprisonment and taking people's freedom away for years at a time. Don't they do that in Guantanamo Bay? But I suppose, that's in Cuba so it's different. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,370 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    Hermadite
    The real lesson here is to stay out of foreign countries. For starters, watch the movie "Midnight Express." You will tear up your passport and never travel overseas again! Don't press your luck. Stay home and survive!"



    This is my favourite,never travel again because you saw a film about a drug smuggler in turkish prison.
    I wonder if that person saw Deliverance, would they stay out of Georgia?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Also, I lolled at the ones whining about unlawful imprisonment and taking people's freedom away for years at a time. Don't they do that in Guantanamo Bay? But I suppose, that's in Cuba so it's different. :rolleyes:
    Many of those Americans just don't understand the Irony :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    They're just the vocal minority and those with an axe to grind who tend to come=out in large numbers on the internet. You will see them on any news site that allows comments. USa is a big country in fairness so there is a hell of a lot of them, but a hell of a lot more who would be embarrassed to see comments like that
    We can be as guilty as they are with our "Americans are dumb" comments. That dumb country put man on the moon - or did they :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    Italian cities do tend to be dangerous kips, although beautiful and always interesting, you do have to watch your back and they do rip off the tourists I think it's their national sport.

    Except I would go back its a beautiful and very interesting country especially to a History and Art nerd like myself.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    They're just the vocal minority and those with an axe to grind who tend to come=out in large numbers on the internet. You will see them on any news site that allows comments. USa is a big country in fairness so there is a hell of a lot of them, but a hell of a lot more who would be embarrassed to see comments like that
    We can be as guilty as they are with our "Americans are dumb" comments. That dumb country put man on the moon - or did they :eek:

    Took the words out of my mouth 100%.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    That dumb country put man on the moon - or did they :eek:

    if they did they did it for a dumb reason.

    In fact you might as well call post WWII foreign policy dumb,forced upon by a paranoid society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    4leto wrote: »
    Italian cities do tend to be dangerous kips, although beautiful and always interesting, you do have to watch your back and they do rip off the tourists I think it's their national sport.

    Except I would go back its a beautiful and very interesting country especially to a History and Art nerd like myself.
    A lot of American blood was spilt fighting the Nazis in Italy to .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,257 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    We've all got bad teeth, and the Americans saved our asses in two world wars. FACT!

    They would have joined in the wars earlier but it took them a while to find out where Europe was.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    We've all got bad teeth, and the Americans saved our asses in two world wars. FACT!

    They would have joined in the wars earlier but it took them a while to find out where Europe was.

    and if it wasn't for those brave americans we'd all be speaking european now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Gnobe wrote: »
    I've been to Italy and don't think it's all that bad of a country personally

    It's a lovely country

    But their drivers :eek:
    Red lights are optional and you should feel nervous crossing the road in Rome.
    Maybe it's a latin culture thing but so aggressive, if traffic is bad then just wave your hands madly and lean on the horn it seems
    Kamikaze scooter riders zipping around the place. I have a scooter myself but I don't zip around in shorts and flip flops through insane gaps.

    They are fond of ripping off tourists too but sure Ireland is no better.
    The well advertised express train from Da Vinci airport to Roma Termini is fourteen euro.
    The train the locals use is under three euro ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    and if it wasn't for those brave americans we'd all be speaking european now.

    And if it wasn't for us brave Irish they would be all speaking Apache.

    Yes yes it was mainly us in the US army at the time that slaughtered the Injuns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    This the same America that sends mentally disabled people to the death chamber??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    4leto wrote: »
    And if it wasn't for us brave Irish they would be all speaking Apache.

    Yes yes it was mainly us in the US army at the time that slaughtered the Injuns.

    damn, I hate us even more now.

    - Man called horse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    but the thing is,a lot of americans are Fat,crass and stupid.

    Ssssshhhh!!!!! you can't say things like that. The yanks might find out and stopping letting our lads in through Ellis Island


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    In general I think the world is a better place because of them, I would be firmly in the pro American camp.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    4leto wrote: »
    In general I think the world is a better place because of them, I would be firmly in the pro American camp.

    really? But it's that much harder to find a proper Pocahontas now. That's a big drawback


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭tigger123


    mikemac wrote: »
    LH Pathe wrote: »

    u know sports is a good indicator, why are they so curiously crap at otherwise world games?

    They get to be winners every year :)

    The Superbowl winners call themselves World Champions
    And the winner of the baseball World Series is always from North America

    Can you imagine if Dublin called themselves World Champions at Gaelic Football. They'd be ridiculed for it :pac:

    It's called The World Series because it was named after the newspaper that originally sponsored the competition ... ie, The World. It's not because they think they're world champions, they just didn't change the name when the paper folded


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    A few selected comments from internet sites really represents the voice of the nation.

    I live in the US and i see no hatred for Europe in the media, i dont really know where you are getting this from. The only thing i see is the analysts on CNBC taking the piss out of the PIGS and assessing America's exposure to the PIGS, but thats understandable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Yes, but le yokels have always been hated and mistrusted in Euope because we're a more progressive normal society. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    LH Pathe wrote: »
    really? But it's that much harder to find a proper Pocahontas now. That's a big drawback


    But that is our fault for slaughtering the Injuns not the Americans:o


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    tigger123 wrote: »
    mikemac wrote: »
    LH Pathe wrote: »

    u know sports is a good indicator, why are they so curiously crap at otherwise world games?

    They get to be winners every year :)

    The Superbowl winners call themselves World Champions
    And the winner of the baseball World Series is always from North America

    Can you imagine if Dublin called themselves World Champions at Gaelic Football. They'd be ridiculed for it :pac:

    It's called The World Series because it was named after the newspaper that originally sponsored the competition ... ie, The World. It's not because they think they're world champions, they just didn't change the name when the paper folded

    fascinating. well sponsorship's due a change of hands already, must be hard shedding that grandoise title though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    Hazys wrote: »
    A few selected comments from internet sites really represents the voice of the nation.

    I live in the US and i see no hatred for Europe in the media, i dont really know where you are getting this from. The only thing i see is the analysts on CNBC taking the piss out of the PIGS and assessing America's exposure to the PIGS, but thats understandable.

    I was reading some US media on Ireland, we seem to getting rather positive headlines now. Is that in the wider media????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    I've never met a conservative American living in Europe. All the Americans I've met that are living here have been open-minded and wanted to explore new places
    +1. All the Americans I've met through my travels have been pretty down-to-earth and respectful of other countries customs. Moreso believe it or not, than the Canadians, whom some of I've found to be a tad arrogant and very quick to fall back on the " No, I'm Canadian - not American!" argument - much like the we do with the English I guess!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    Good thing she wasn't arrested and tried for murder in America then. There's a fair chance in a lot of US states that she wouldn't have been alive for the appeal having been given a lethal injection, electrocuted or gassed to death.

    Quite honestly, it's a bit rich for Americans to critique any European justice system when their own regularly has miscarriages of justice that are quite often fatal.

    I suppose, she was wealthy, cute, female, and white so obviously they care more too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    tigger123 wrote: »
    It's called The World Series because it was named after the newspaper that originally sponsored the competition ... ie, The World. It's not because they think they're world champions, they just didn't change the name when the paper folded
    LH Pathe wrote: »
    fascinating. well sponsorship's due a change of hands already, must be hard shedding that grandoise title though



    I've heard this story and snopes says no
    http://www.snopes.com/business/names/worldseries.asp

    Even the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum state the newspaper story is an urban myth

    I can't seem to copy and paste from that page but I've given the link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    mikemac wrote: »

    Can you imagine if Dublin called themselves World Champions at Gaelic Football. They'd be ridiculed for it :pac:

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2011/10/04/not-going-to-their-heads/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    Hmm, now there's a thought. We should rename the All-Ireland Final the World Cup.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    tigger123 wrote: »
    It's called The World Series because it was named after the newspaper that originally sponsored the competition ... ie, The World. It's not because they think they're world champions, they just didn't change the name when the paper folded

    Thats not entirely true.

    The World Series was orginally designed to be just that the World Series.

    The promotors of the tournament named it that hoping that it would attract countries in the Caribean and Japan, etc to send teams. But at the time no foreign countries could afford to send teams but the name and tournement were a sucess and so the name stuck, no reason to change it.

    Maybe they should have changed it for symantec reasons so whingers in internet forums a 100 years later wont get offended.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    4leto wrote: »
    I was reading some US media on Ireland, we seem to getting rather positive headlines now. Is that in the wider media????

    Ireland hasn't come up much in US media since the bailout crisis or Obama's visit. In general, Ireland has always got favourable media coverage, except in Financial media where people are less emotional in their journalism and more analytical since it affects their bottom line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    I lived there for nearly a year, I think the people are great, very polite, helpful and friendly. But I did find a majority of them (not all) insular, they really do not know much about the outside world.

    As for the dumb americans, no way, but again they have a tendency to specialise, for example an accountant would read the accountant magazine, go to accountant conferences and have little interest outside that. So what you get are the best accountants in the world and the same goes right across the board for all jobs. So their nerds are the best nerds in the world.

    Also they work hard, they do live to work.


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