netflix , comming soon to a linux near you

bpb101

unfortunately it's my sad duty to post this linux from omg ubuntu.


http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/netflix-no-plans-to-support-linux/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29

Galen

I'm not surprised with Linux only 1 - 2 percent of the desktop market.

Johnboy1951

Oh well ...... an 'unofficial' copy of Win in a VM seems to be the way to go for a Linux PC ......

Galen

I think I'll be happier doing without Netflix than installing windoze on my machine :-(

AaronEverlast

Have a friend who works for Netflix. Its not happening. It might happen, but for now, its not.

Grudaire

Do any of the alternative streaming companies have any plans for linux capability?

eth0

I dunno why people see the appeal of this kind of service while there are torrents

aidan_walsh

eth0 wrote: »

I dunno why people see the appeal of this kind of service while there are torrents

Because its legitimate? Because people want to support the people who make the things they like to watch?

Moonbeam

ALthough there is no official Linux support I am sure it won't be hard to get it working.

Hmm must get my Netflix account.

bpb101

i was just looking at the kindle fire That runs android linux and it does have netflix support so netflix has been developed for linux , although this inset on the computer is regardless.

it uses the Linux kernel and therefore should be made capable with some of the mainstream Linux's

eth0

OSI wrote: »

Because, as I've said many many many times, the only reason I torrent/download, is because there was no reasonable method of getting the content I want, on demand at a reasonable price.

Netflix does this exactly. Why go to the effort of finding a torrent, hoping it has peers etc, then waiting ages for it to download, when I can start streaming it straight away on Netflix.

You just need a decent torrent site. The public ones tend to be fairly bad - too many lads seeding at 1k/s

I'd rather wait a month for a filum to download rather than install something on my computer that uses DRM and support a crowd of DRM peddlers. I hate the way all these new shiny services come along and gloss over the fact that their software goes out of its way to 'hide' stuff from you the user or even uses dedicated Intel Insider style hardware to try and hide it from you. Tis like the Troika invading your PC except its a Troika of supermassive movie studios (there's probably only 3 left after mergers, they're all a cosy cartell anyway)

bpb101

i was doing a little searching myself on netflix jobs and i found this job
http://www2.netflix.com/Jobs?id=7602&jvi=oUr3Vfw3

• Strong technical expertise with C++ programming, memory management, multithreaded programming, and embedded Linux

• Candidates with expertise in one or more of the following areas are preferred: Linux system-level programming, networking protocols, audio/video playback and file formats, video streaming, DRM, software security, and UI frameworks (Webkit, Qt, Adobe Flash).

p.s. i made the linux bold

ShooterSF

eth0 wrote: »

You just need a decent torrent site. The public ones tend to be fairly bad - too many lads seeding at 1k/s

I'd rather wait a month for a filum to download rather than install something on my computer that uses DRM and support a crowd of DRM peddlers. I hate the way all these new shiny services come along and gloss over the fact that their software goes out of its way to 'hide' stuff from you the user or even uses dedicated Intel Insider style hardware to try and hide it from you. Tis like the Troika invading your PC except its a Troika of supermassive movie studios (there's probably only 3 left after mergers, they're all a cosy cartell anyway)

I get why DRM is a problem with games/music etc that you buy and install. It makes it difficult to move to new machines or sell on to someone else etc but with streaming content? I don't see any difference between it using drm or not and can't see how it can hamper my experience of the show/movie.

eth0

ShooterSF wrote: »

I get why DRM is a problem with games/music etc that you buy and install. It makes it difficult to move to new machines or sell on to someone else etc but with streaming content? I don't see any difference between it using drm or not and can't see how it can hamper my experience of the show/movie.

There is no such thing as streaming anymore. Its just downloading with some yoke running on your computer to make sure its disposed off once shown on the screen. Actual connectionless streaming I don't think its used for this service though I could be wrong, and if it is I'd still rather have full access to the data on my own machine. It sets a bad precedent - people accepting the idea of the little guy inside their computer from the Netflix crowd making sure you don't get at the good stuff

I do use private trackers, and yes they can be fine, but there is still to often a torrent that has feck all seeds or ones on crappy connections, I would much rather be able to watch something instantly and know I'm getting decent content rather than spend hours wondering if I just downloaded a crap rip or a big **** off virus. And why the **** would I care about what DRM Netflix uses? I'm not copying it, I'm not storing it, DRM has no affect on my ability to watch the content I want on the devices I want (admittedly bar Linux). I do find it funny when people say they won't pay for movies, and spend €100+ on HDD to download movies to.

I don't know how you manage to have such bad luck with torrents. My 100e hard drive stores all my other non-'content' stuff as well thats more than just a couple of gigs

timbyr

eth0 wrote: »

There is no such thing as streaming anymore. Its just downloading with some yoke running on your computer to make sure its disposed off once shown on the screen. Actual connectionless streaming I don't think its used for this service though I could be wrong, and if it is I'd still rather have full access to the data on my own machine.

I'm not sure what you are getting at here.
Are you referring to a multicast system? Because at your endpoint there would still be the requirement to make sure the received data is "disposed" whether using a HTTP method or a connectionless media protocol.
Whatever transport method is used has no impact on how the application handles the stream at the far end. Still "needs" that DRM to stop you from keeping the data on your own machine.

Although on a slightly related note I think that Netflix on devices do use a media streaming protocol on devices, which would explain my ability to tunnel it through SSH and my Squid proxy being ignored by the Netflix app on my PS3 and Android devices.

d'Oracle

eth0 wrote: »

Tis like the Troika invading your PC

Its not like that at all.

Johnboy1951

eth0 wrote:

Actual connectionless streaming I don't think its used for this service though I could be wrong

I am unfamiliar with this term, could you elaborate please? Thanks.
.... there surely has to be a connection ....

PogMoThoin

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I am unfamiliar with this term, could you elaborate please? Thanks.
.... there surely has to be a connection ....

You need to read up on layer 4, the transport layer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP/IP_model
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_layer



UDP is connectionless, unlike TCP there is no establishing the connection, it blasts away without any preliminaries and there is no acknowledgement of receipt of the packets, they are received in random order without control, it's up to the application layer to sort out and cope with the packets in the wrong order/missing. Skype and lots of other video, voice and some gaming applications use UDP as there is less overheads than TCP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectionless_protocol
http://www-net.cs.umass.edu/kurose/transport/UDP.html

Johnboy1951

PogMoThoin wrote: »

You need to read up on layer 4, the transport layer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP/IP_model
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_layer



UDP is connectionless, unlike TCP there is no establishing the connection, it blasts away without any preliminaries and there is no acknowledgement of receipt of the packets, they are received in random order without control, it's up to the application layer to sort out and cope with the packets in the wrong order/missing. Skype and lots of other video, voice and some gaming applications use UDP as there is less overheads than TCP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectionless_protocol
http://www-net.cs.umass.edu/kurose/transport/UDP.html

Thanks ...... it refers to an non-interactive 'connection' ..... got it ...

Khannie

Well...there is no connection really. It's like putting something in the post. You've no idea if it gets there or not. You just hope / assume it will.

bpb101

foalks it been nearly a year and well , i have a bad post , im sorry

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/netflix-no-change-in-our-plans-for-linux?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29&utm_content=FaceBook
apperatly this news was released in February (i missed it , sue me), but a news story just poped up on omg ubuntu a while ago again about it

niallb

Netflix already runs on the Google Chromebooks running their own build of linux.
I haven't seen it work in front of me, as I don't have a genuine chromebook,
but when I tinker round with a ChromiumOS install to add java and peppery goodness,
netflix site recognises me as a chromebook user and tries to give me the content.
You can add the netflix plugin to chrome on any linux, but you get further with ChromiumOS.

The error delivered is

Netflix Video Player Unavailable
Error Code: NPL3
Our apologies - we cannot find the Netflix Video Player on your Chromebook.
If this problem persists, please update your Chromebook from the "About Chrome OS" menu.

Stuxnet

NETFLIX ON UBUNTU IS HERE
Posted by iheartubuntu on Thursday, November 15, 2012


BREAKING NEWS! Netflix on Ubuntu linux works! And it works great too! A winner has been found! Back in March of this year I Heart Ubuntu put out a call to get Netflix on Ubuntu working. Somehow. Legally. Without the need to install a virtual OS and have to boot into it. Something as native as possible.

The solution? Get Firefox and Microsoft Silverlight working in WINE. Its not as easy as it sounds. A custom built version of WINE is necessary to add in several patches to get everything working properly. It currently works on 32 bit versions of Ubuntu (tested so far on 12.10). 64 bit compiling is tricky so its best to wait for the PPA coming very soon.

Want to try getting Netflix on Ubuntu working yourself? Ready to go??

There is a PPA coming out soon to make installation much easier. If you are not comfortable with compiling software in linux, I recommend waiting for the PPA.

* This build is not compatible with "vanilla" Wine, so installing this custom package will uninstall any existing Wine installation you have. Back up your current WINE folder to be safe.

** Please read through the instructions first before attempting. Reread if you experience any problems.

NETFLIX ON UBUNTU INSTRUCTIONS

(1) Downloading the latest Wine code
Download the latest Wine source code and compile it yourself. Open a terminal window and run these commands one line at a time...

sudo apt-get install git
git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git ~/wine-git
cd ~/wine-git

(2) Patching
The remaining fixes are relatively simple. Keeping your terminal window open, run these commands one line at a time and patch them in like so:

wget -O part1.patch http://source.winehq.org/patches/data/91645 && patch -p1 < part1.patch
wget -O part2.patch http://source.winehq.org/patches/data/91646 && patch -p1 < part2.patch
wget -O part3.patch http://source.winehq.org/patches/data/91647 && patch -p1 < part3.patch
wget -O part4.patch http://source.winehq.org/patches/data/91648 && patch -p1 < part4.patch
wget -O part5.patch http://source.winehq.org/patches/data/91649 && patch -p1 < part5.patch

(3) Compiling
Wine has a fairly standard compilation and install procedure, but it takes a long time. Older computers might take up to two hours, newer computers? Definitely quicker! With your terminal still open, run this command...

./configure && make && sudo make install

If you get a "configure: error: FreeType development files not found. Fonts will not be built" message you can fix this by installing those files by running:

sudo apt-get install libfreetype6-dev

Then go ahead and and run the compile commands again:

./configure && make && sudo make install

(4) Installing Firefox and Silverlight
The version of Firefox doesn't matter so much and currently Silverlight 5 doesnt work yet, so you have to use Silverlight 4:

wget -O Firefox-14.0.1.exe http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-14.0.1-funnelcake13&os=win&lang=en-US; wine Firefox-14.0.1.exe /S

wget -O Silverlight-4.exe http://silverlight.dlservice.microsoft.com/download/6/A/1/6A13C54D-3F35-4082-977A-27F30ECE0F34/10329.00/runtime/Silverlight.exe; wine Silverlight-4.exe /q

(5) Launch Firefox and go to Netflix
At this point everything should "just work", though the first time you pull up a movie it'll make you click "Enable" to enable the DRM component. Just go to the Netflix website, sign in with your credentials, and play something:

wine "C:\\Program Files\\Mozilla Firefox\\firefox.exe" http://netflix.com/

That should do it! Did it work for you?? I personally had problems with step #4, so I manually downloaded both Firefox and Silverlight and ran the EXE files by right clicking them and installing. All worked great after that.

Firefox:
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html

Silverlight:
http://www.oldapps.com/silverlight.php?old_silverlight=11?download

If you ran into trouble beyond what was mentioned above while trying to compile WINE then you may want to try installing all the dependencies for WINE through the repositories. You can do this by running this command in a terminal...

sudo apt-get build-dep wine


The man who solved this is Erich Hoover, a computer programmer extraordinaire (to say the least). He asks that you donate to the WINE Development Fund...

http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html

Galen

Well done. Good news for those who don't mind a little windows crap on their Linux boxes - can you use wine with xbmc? Well no matter I think I'll wait for a full netflix support on linux (slim chance I know)

Johnboy1951

Try installing the add-on Media Hint to Firefox or Chrome/Chromium.

Seems to work OK for Netflix, Pandora and Hulu .... at least for the present.

human 19

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Try installing the add-on Media Hint to Firefox or Chrome/Chromium.

Seems to work OK for Netflix, Pandora and Hulu .... at least for the present.

OH...MY..GOD!How come I never heard of this before???
Currently watching yesterday's daily show on Hulu.

I havent got my netflix pw to hand to test netflix

Edit: found netflix pw and can log in. Cant check the speed as net is muck with all the drizzle out there.
Dont know if Im in the Irish or American version of netflix... does anyone know of a film or TV series only on the US version which I could use to test?

bpb101

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Try installing the add-on Media Hint to Firefox or Chrome/Chromium.

Seems to work OK for Netflix, Pandora and Hulu .... at least for the present.

thought hula is US restricted ?

human 19

bpb101 wrote: »

thought hula is US restricted ?

It normally is, as confirmed when I tried it with Opera without the plugin

bpb101

human 19 wrote: »

It normally is, as confirmed when I tried it with Opera without the plugin

so with this add on ,it's not?

human 19

bpb101 wrote: »

so with this add on ,it's not?

I assume the add-on makes hulu think you are in the USA when connecting.