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Depressed after drinking?

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    #32
    The Scientician
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    justryan wrote: »
    It's called The Fear

    AKA The heebie jeebies


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    #33
    wolf moon
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    I recently figured out that even the weekend drinking (a bottle of wine, etc) does not make me feel good. I started smoking weed instead, much better.


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    #34
    BraziliaNZ
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    wolf moon wrote: »
    I recently figured out that even the weekend drinking (a bottle of wine, etc) does not make me feel good. I started smoking weed instead, much better.

    Smoking a joint of grass has my head in an even worse place than the hangover I get from a few beers the next day, these days.
    Anyway yes, I've spent the last 2 days depressed as f**k from getting really wasted on Saturday night. Really need to knock the stuff on the head...


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    #35
    anhedonia
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    Fran1985 wrote: »
    is something that causes depression not a depressant?

    Something that causes depression is a depressant.

    Alcohol depresses the functions of the Central Nervous System, causing CNS depression.


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    #36
    starch4ser
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    what goes up must come down


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    #37
    lastlaugh
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    Fran1985 wrote: »
    is something that causes depression not a depressant?

    As has been pointed out already, Alcohol is a depressant, not because it makes you depressed, but because of the physical effects it has on your body.

    If you do/say something stupid whlie drunk and remember it the next day when you are hungover, chances are you will feel like sh!t and then feel 'depressed'.


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    #38
    ShadowHearth
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    I don't have time to be depressed, because I puke, piss and laying bricks...

    Last few times I just passed out, so no depression too!


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    #39
    stupidusername
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    lastlaugh wrote: »
    As has been pointed out already, Alcohol is a depressant, not because it makes you depressed, but because of the physical effects it has on your body.

    If you do/say something stupid whlie drunk and remember it the next day when you are hungover, chances are you will feel like sh!t and then feel 'depressed'.

    So how would you explain the depression or low mood that people feel after drinking?


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    #40
    lee_baby_simms
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    I had a skinfull on Sat night.

    I woke up with my head in the oven on Sunday. Hell on earth. End of days. Chewing the carpet. 2012. Like a 9/11 in my skull.

    A trembling handful of nurofen plus washed down with a pint of coke and a fry up helped immensely.


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    #41
    bluefinger
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    As someone said earlier alcohol depresses the central nervous system. By depressing parts of this system it works to de-inhibit us, hence the willingness to say and do things we would not normally do. It actually works as a euphoriant in some people.

    What causes the post party blues imho is a combination of factors such as dehydration, a significant increase in tiredness, often bad food, occasional regret (spent money, behaving uncharacteristically), and other factors relating to the personality of the person.


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    #42
    dsmythy
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    The OP seems to be talking about before he goes asleep after a session rather than the morning after. I used to get this bad. The odd time after a heavy drinking session when I'm back home my mood dropped big time. Tears would come for no reason and I'd feel severely down. This has never happened at any other time so I fixed it easily by cutting down on the drink big time. No more issues. Happy days!


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    #43
    minidazzler
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    whatcartoget wrote: »
    This is not a Personal Issue now but does anyone here ever find they are often depressed after a night out or is it just me? I find when you have a really good night out and when you get in after about 20 minutes I find I am terribly depressed and lonely. Does any one else find this?

    Don't go home alone and you'll be fine. A morning of awkwardness beats a night of loneliness every time.


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    #44
    Feisar
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    Meh, I just have a lazy Sunday with the GF in bed and drink coffee.

    Rare enough though, I hate wasting a weekend day.

    Now being on site at 7:30 of a hung over Monday morning is a different storey!

    First they came for the socialists...



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    #45
    stupidusername
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    bluefinger wrote: »
    As someone said earlier alcohol depresses the central nervous system. By depressing parts of this system it works to de-inhibit us, hence the willingness to say and do things we would not normally do. It actually works as a euphoriant in some people.

    What causes the post party blues imho is a combination of factors such as dehydration, a significant increase in tiredness, often bad food, occasional regret (spent money, behaving uncharacteristically), and other factors relating to the personality of the person.

    the last time i was down after drinking, i'd had 3 pints, got a decent sleep, no rubbish food after and no regrets, so are you saying that I got down because of my personality? if it's personality alone, it surely would happen all the time, to everybody who gets low from drinking...without the drinking? or do you mean to say it's a combination of the alcohol & personality? in which case you would be agreeing that it is down to the alcohol (and it's depressive properties)


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    Liam Byrne
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    whatcartoget wrote: »
    This is not a Personal Issue now but does anyone here ever find they are often depressed after a night out or is it just me? I find when you have a really good night out and when you get in after about 20 minutes I find I am terribly depressed and lonely. Does any one else find this?

    Defined "good night out". If you're talking about fun and craic with a few drinks, then of course it's going to involve a wind-down.

    If you're talking about drinking too much, then there's your problem.


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    #47
    Logical Fallacy
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    anhedonia wrote: »
    Yep, this annoys me too.

    Alcohol is a CNS depressant - a Central Nervous System Depressant, just like other sedatives and benzodioazepines that agonise the brain's GABA receptors. It is a depressant because it slows down or 'depresses' the heart, lungs etc. The reason why getting overly drunk causes people to pass out and sleep.

    Alcohol is not a depressant because it causes depression, although that can be one of many side effects of frequent misuse.

    Hmmmm....alcohol directly affects Serotonin production and the 5HT, GABA and Dopamine receptors.

    After one drink people will have a higher level of blood and urine Serotonin...so this "depression" feeling after a heavy session is actually reasonable similar to the comedown from Serotonin stimulating drugs.


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    orourkeda
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    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    Hmmmm....alcohol directly affects Serotonin production and the 5HT, GABA and Dopamine receptors.

    After one drink people will have a higher level of blood and urine Serotonin...so this "depression" feeling after a heavy session is actually reasonable similar to the comedown from Serotonin stimulating drugs.

    Good sh1t followed by bad sh1t


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    #49
    bluefinger
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    stupidusername wrote: »
    the last time i was down after drinking, i'd had 3 pints, got a decent sleep, no rubbish food after and no regrets, so are you saying that I got down because of my personality? if it's personality alone, it surely would happen all the time, to everybody who gets low from drinking...without the drinking? or do you mean to say it's a combination of the alcohol & personality? in which case you would be agreeing that it is down to the alcohol (and it's depressive properties)

    I didn't say you personally got down because of your personality. I don't know you well enough to do that. :) I was responding to the some of the general remarks in the thread about feeling depressed the next day. My point was that it's a combination of factors between physiological and psychological. I was also attempting to highlight the common misconception that alcohol causes a depressed mood rather than working as a brain depressant. Sorry if i didn't make that clear.


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    #50
    kronsington
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    Im now 29 and the booze blues are worse now than ever before. up until i was about 27 i could go out 2 or 3 nights in a row without thinking twice about it and wouldnt have much of a hangover or bout of the fear. thats all changed now, probably mainly due to getting older. i, like a lot of people, used to live for the weekend for many years, and looked forward to the next session. ive found i can barely do ANYTHING on a sunday and the hangover spills into monday when im still exhausted. had a big one on saturday and im still shattered. i used to never think about the day after a session but now i find im wary of the hangover/tiredness that im going to bring on myself. im also wary of the effects it has on my mindset, health and appearance. im gradually losing my passion for binge drinking. most of my mates are starting to settle down so trying to rustle up a drinking crew at a weekend can be problematic. im at the start of a run where stags, weddings and 30ths are going to be a common occurence for a good while. One of the main reasons i go out (if not the main reason) is to try and meet and women, if i had a bird id say my whole attitude to boozing might change.


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    anhedonia
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    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    Hmmmm....alcohol directly affects Serotonin production and the 5HT, GABA and Dopamine receptors.

    After one drink people will have a higher level of blood and urine Serotonin...so this "depression" feeling after a heavy session is actually reasonable similar to the comedown from Serotonin stimulating drugs.

    I agree with this.

    But we were clarifying why alcohol is known as a depressant, that is because enough alcohol is guaranteed to cause CNS depression, due to its effects on GABA receptors. Alcohol can also cause pshychological depression (low mood), but this is not guaranteed.

    Im done arguing semantics on this. Peace out.


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    #52
    Logical Fallacy
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    anhedonia wrote: »
    I agree with this.

    But we were clarifying why alcohol is known as a depressant, that is because enough alcohol is guaranteed to cause CNS depression, due to its effects on GABA receptors. Alcohol can also cause pshychological depression (low mood), but this is not guaranteed.

    Im done arguing semantics on this. Peace out.

    Oh i completely agree with you, i was just pointing out that people may get a similar "low" mood the day after a night on the booze.


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    #53
    lastlaugh
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    stupidusername wrote: »
    So how would you explain the depression or low mood that people feel after drinking?

    I think that's what is commonly referred to as a hangover.


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    TheyKnowMyIP
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    whatcartoget wrote: »
    This is not a Personal Issue now but does anyone here ever find they are often depressed after a night out or is it just me? I find when you have a really good night out and when you get in after about 20 minutes I find I am terribly depressed and lonely. Does any one else find this?

    Stop drinking? You clearly can't handle drink.


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    stupidusername
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    bluefinger wrote: »
    I didn't say you personally got down because of your personality. I don't know you well enough to do that. :) I was responding to the some of the general remarks in the thread about feeling depressed the next day. My point was that it's a combination of factors between physiological and psychological. I was also attempting to highlight the common misconception that alcohol causes a depressed mood rather than working as a brain depressant. Sorry if i didn't make that clear.

    no you were clear, I get what you're saying, but I'm saying to me it sounds wrong. i was giving my situation as an example because I often experience low moods the day after drinking, and I wanted to point out that it clearly has to do with drinking. and drinking alone.
    lastlaugh wrote: »
    I think that's what is commonly referred to as a hangover.

    after 3 pints? :confused:


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    #56
    Logical Fallacy
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    stupidusername wrote: »
    after 3 pints? :confused:

    A hangover is basically dehydration and low levels of electrolytes.

    If someone is already pretty dehydrated when they start drinking 3 beers could give them a bit of a hangover i reckon.


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    #57
    TheyKnowMyIP
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    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    A hangover is basically dehydration and low levels of electrolytes.

    No it's not. Beer is mostly water. Electrolytes? Would ya get off the stage.


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    #58
    Logical Fallacy
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    TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »
    No it's not. Beer is mostly water. Electrolytes? Would ya get off the stage.

    Indeed, Ethanol is not a diuretic, and the body doesn't expend assorted electrolytes, vitamins and minerals in the breaking down of alcohol.


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    ScumLord
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    I'm depressed because my digestive system is just not capable of handling drink any more. I used to love being drunk. :(

    It's also depressing to see just how awful pubs are when sober, god their awful. You could spend time in them when hammered.


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    TheyKnowMyIP
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    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    Indeed, Ethanol is not a diuretic, and the body doesn't expend assorted electrolytes, vitamins and minerals in the breaking down of alcohol.

    You put too much faith in this science stuff, boss.


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    #61
    Logical Fallacy
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    TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »
    You put too much faith in this science stuff, boss.

    Ah right...ignore button time.


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