Time travel makes no sense

cowzerp · 24-09-2011 12:52pm #1

1st off if there is or ever will be such thing im pretty sure people would be with us now from the future

2nd
to believe if i could go back a day thats basically saying that there i would be repeating the whole day or that going back in time has rewound time

It just makes zero sense or at least could someone explain it in a way that it might make sense!!

Helix · 24-09-2011 12:56pm

ill tell you what makes no sense, point 2, whatever the hell that was supposed to mean

time travel, if possible, needs to be such that no changes have been made to the past. that means if you figure out a way to time travel tomorrow, and come back to today, you will already have done it before you figure out how to time travel. you time travelling doesn't change the past in that case, it merely allows the past to happen as was, and you cant alter it

Kojak · 24-09-2011 12:58pm

Ahm, "Back to the Future" anyone??

Sonics2k · 24-09-2011 12:58pm

See my sig.

Temptamperu · 24-09-2011 1:06pm

Im sure if there was time travelers we would see the caravans everywhere :pac:

longhalloween · 24-09-2011 1:08pm

Hmm, maybe to travel through time there needs to be a portal or something in the time you want to go to.

Since we dont have one of these yet, no one can travel back to this time.

Logical Fallacy · 24-09-2011 1:09pm

Just watch the movie Primer, it's the only film where anyone made a decent stab of the actual practicalities of time travel.

LordSutch · 24-09-2011 1:12pm

I wonder does the new discovery (Sub-atomic particles travel faster than light) mean that things may not be as they seem? including distance, speed, and time travel? because if something can go faster than light, then surely there's a fascinating if . . . . . . .

4leto · 24-09-2011 1:14pm

Time travel makes lots of sense, it would be so handy.

Temptamperu · 24-09-2011 1:15pm

I would totally go back in time to when i was a kid and kick the shít outta meself :pac:

3ndahalfof6 · 24-09-2011 1:15pm

come on op are you for real, it has happened do you really think the human race all of a sudden got really clever,

how much we have moved forward technology wise in the last 150 yrs, when before that we were dopes,

of course we have been visited from the future, how do you think they beat Hitler, and the Aussie's.

RichieC · 24-09-2011 1:18pm

Fear time travel, people... it be some grizzly culling of the human race going down if I ever land me hands on one

theavenger · 24-09-2011 1:19pm

Its already happened, time cops kick ass anytime somebody tries to alter history.

zuroph · 24-09-2011 1:20pm

Time travel already exists, Cern fired off a bunch of neutrinos and they waited for them to arrive in Gran Sasso lab. Unfortunately, up to now, The closest Ryanair could get them was Bergamo so they had to catch a connecting bus the rest of the way.

RichieC · 24-09-2011 1:22pm

theavenger wrote: »

Its already happened, time cops kick ass anytime somebody tries to alter history.

Ive always thought Ireland should have a time authority that looks after public clocks just so we could have a department of Time or Time Police.

cowzerp · 24-09-2011 1:38pm

Helix wrote: »

time travel, if possible, needs to be such that no changes have been made to the past. that means if you figure out a way to time travel tomorrow, and come back to today, you will already have done it before you figure out how to time travel. you time travelling doesn't change the past in that case, it merely allows the past to happen as was, and you cant alter it

That makes no sense, sure just travelling back would change the past automatically-point been it's totally stupid that people think you can go back in time, it's gone-otherwise there would be me there and in the future, 2 of me and actually billions because what if you go 1 second back in time, 2 me again etc

Or do people think going back brings everyone back!

it just makes no sense is what im saying

Guill · 24-09-2011 1:42pm

1st off if there is or ever will be such thing im pretty sure people would be with us now from the future

Eh, maybe they are.

2nd
to believe if i could go back a day thats basically saying that there i would be repeating the whole day or that going back in time has rewound time

For you maybe....

SV · 24-09-2011 1:46pm

If time travel is possible we would only be able to travel back to a point where time travel had already been made possible.

bucketybuck · 24-09-2011 1:46pm

I always thought Time Travel was one of the blindest of scientific dreams.

Consider time, it is just a man made label. Days, weeks, years, they are just words we made up to give us context.

Travel in time? You might as well try to travel in weights and measures.

Helix · 24-09-2011 2:20pm

cowzerp wrote: »

That makes no sense, sure just travelling back would change the past automatically

travelling back in time wouldnt change the past at all, it would fulfil it

TheMilkyPirate · 24-09-2011 2:20pm

cowzerp wrote: »

1st off if there is or ever will be such thing im pretty sure people would be with us now from the future

2nd
to believe if i could go back a day thats basically saying that there i would be repeating the whole day or that going back in time has rewound time

It just makes zero sense or at least could someone explain it in a way that it might make sense!!

How do you know there isn't??? What do you expect them to do, Come back and announce to the world that they are from the future? They'd be locked up in a straight jacket.

Helix · 24-09-2011 2:21pm

SV wrote: »

If time travel is possible we would only be able to travel back to a point where time travel had already been made possible.

no, we would only be able to travel back to a point that we had arrived from the future to in the past

dlofnep · 24-09-2011 2:25pm

Everything you see is in the past. You never see anything in the present. When you look at the Sun, you see it as it was 8 minutes beforehand. You never see the sun as it is. When you look at the sky - you see stars how they were 1000's of years ago, and if you are lucky enough to have a telescope - you can see objects as they were millions of years ago. This is all down to how long it takes light to travel to us.

So technically - everytime you look at the sky, you are looking back through time.

Logical Fallacy · 24-09-2011 2:25pm

Helix wrote: »

travelling back in time wouldnt change the past at all, it would fulfil it

But would it spoon afterwards?

Is time travel a caring lover?

I doubt it.

iPaddyM · 24-09-2011 2:41pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnLIxEso4rg

Captain_Generic · 24-09-2011 4:14pm

Earth ->0.<-You

Earth 5 minutes earlier orbiting the Sun ->0

--Distance you are getting dicked by--

.<-You traveling back 5 minutes to what is now the middle of fucking space

Saila · 24-09-2011 4:24pm

RichieC wrote: »

Ive always thought Ireland should have a time authority that looks after public clocks just so we could have a department of Time or Time Police.

we do heres a documentary on them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuujAfDRSfc

Fremen · 24-09-2011 4:29pm

"All time is all time. It does not change. It does not lend itself to warnings or explanations. It simply is. Take it moment by moment, and you will find that we are all, as I've said before, bugs in amber." -Kurt Vonnegut

Darlughda · 24-09-2011 4:29pm

dlofnep wrote: »

Everything you see is in the past. You never see anything in the present. When you look at the Sun, you see it as it was 8 minutes beforehand. You never see the sun as it is. When you look at the sky - you see stars how they were 1000's of years ago, and if you are lucky enough to have a telescope - you can see objects as they were millions of years ago. This is all down to how long it takes light to travel to us.

So technically - everytime you look at the sky, you are looking back through time.

You have just scrambled my brain.

I have spent the last 10 mins looking at things confirming I am looking in the present, but the minute I confirm that, its in the past....

muff03 · 24-09-2011 4:30pm

when I was in the future I used to time travel every Saturday

Captain Chaos · 24-09-2011 4:33pm

Time travel into the future is possible and astronauts have being doing this since they first went into space. Even the ones on the ISS now are doing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM28eErikAo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plQ4wrZvGlI

MarkR · 24-09-2011 4:38pm

There is a finite length of time that it takes for the light to hit our optic nerve, fire off a signal to the brain, and have the brain interpret it. So really, everything we see, even up close, is in the past. And upside down actually. The images form on the retina upside down.

Last time I thought hard about that, I nearly fell over.

4leto · 24-09-2011 4:41pm

I read a theory that the universe is a hologram (not as far out as that statement seems) so if that was true you could get replays and jumps and skips in time but we would never be aware of them.

Duggy747 · 24-09-2011 4:43pm

It should be written down and adhered to that if a successful time machine is ever created it must be a DeLorean.

That would be the ultimate life imitating art example. :pac:

Captain Chaos · 24-09-2011 4:47pm

Duggy747 wrote: »

if a successful time machine is ever created it must be a DeLorean.

That's a paradox right there as you'd need one to get the other.:pac:

dlofnep · 24-09-2011 4:56pm

Darlughda wrote: »

You have just scrambled my brain.

I have spent the last 10 mins looking at things confirming I am looking in the present, but the minute I confirm that, its in the past....

Ponder this.

You are chatting to your friend in McDonalds. (Why you are eating there is beyond me). You are sitting across the table from him - but you never see him as he his, but rather as how he was a few nano-seconds before that. That's because of the time it takes for the light to travel to you, and then the time it takes for your brain to process the image. It seems instant to you - but at a detailed level - it's not instant.

But yes - I like the sun analogy, because it is 8 light minutes away from us. If the Sun blew up - we wouldn't know about it until 8 minutes later, shortly after which a shock wave would wipe the planet from existence.

aligator_am · 24-09-2011 5:17pm

cowzerp wrote: »

1st off if there is or ever will be such thing im pretty sure people would be with us now from the future

2nd
to believe if i could go back a day thats basically saying that there i would be repeating the whole day or that going back in time has rewound time

It just makes zero sense or at least could someone explain it in a way that it might make sense!!

I don't think it makes any less sense than believing that jesus was the son of god and the whole bible fairytale, in fact, it's no less mentally offensive than religion in general.

I think that time travel could be a possibility at some point, although I doubt it will happen in my lifetime.

ejmaztec · 24-09-2011 5:27pm

Some people here must have already half-mastered time travel and got stuck in 1916.

:pac:

Darlughda · 24-09-2011 5:30pm

dlofnep wrote: »

Ponder this.

You are chatting to your friend in McDonalds. (Why you are eating there is beyond me). You are sitting across the table from him - but you never see him as he his, but rather as how he was a few nano-seconds before that. That's because of the time it takes for the light to travel to you, and then the time it takes for your brain to process the image. It seems instant to you - but at a detailed level - it's not instant.

But yes - I like the sun analogy, because it is 8 light minutes away from us. If the Sun blew up - we wouldn't know about it until 8 minutes later, shortly after which a shock wave would wipe the planet from existence.

I knew I shouldn't have click back on this thread. Now, my hurting brains are going through a ringer, and I am freaked out about how the hell you know about my secret agent visits to that place.

cowzerp · 24-09-2011 5:33pm

aligator_am wrote: »

I don't think it makes any less sense than believing that jesus was the son of god and the whole bible fairytale, in fact, it's no less mentally offensive than religion in general.

your using 1 weird made up thing to say another weird made up thing might be true!

Zombie time travelling might happen I guess

aligator_am · 24-09-2011 5:39pm

cowzerp wrote: »

your using 1 weird made up thing to say another weird made up thing might be true!

Zombie time travelling might happen I guess

DAMN YOU AND YOUR LOGIC!!!

fedor.2. · 24-09-2011 6:48pm

I cant handle this, im going to watch X factor to take my mind off it

Jev/N · 24-09-2011 6:50pm

bucketybuck wrote: »

I always thought Time Travel was one of the blindest of scientific dreams.

Consider time, it is just a man made label. Days, weeks, years, they are just words we made up to give us context.

Travel in time? You might as well try to travel in weights and measures.

We are all travelling in time at the moment, the issue is the speed or the direction.

Travelling forward in time at a faster pace isn't as great of an issue and is theorically possible

2 stroke · 24-09-2011 7:06pm

cowzerp wrote: »

Time travel makes no sense

You're not doing it right.

Irish Guitarist · 24-09-2011 7:12pm

It's possible to travel into the future but I'm not sure about the past. Astronauts that return to Earth are very slightly younger than they would have been if they never went to space. When we travel further into space at greater speeds it will be possible to travel further into the future.

4leto · 24-09-2011 7:13pm

I always hated and flunked Temporal physics back at Starfleet Academy:(

If only I could go back and do them again.

Saila · 24-09-2011 7:14pm

neither does this

Green Mile · 24-09-2011 7:18pm

It is in fact possible to time travel. There is a theory that does co-incide with physics.
You can only travel forward in time, and it is about traveling at a high speed very very fast.

Basically, if people could travel fast enough, a guy would go into a Pod or Shuttle and after, say 10 years would open his shuttle to find himself 11 years in the future.
He would be more preserved and time on earth would have moved onward while in the process.

It seems pointless to take so long to time travel but it can happen. There is proof that a clock has time traveled. It was synced with other clocks and when it was tested. There was a difference of 0.000000000000001 of a second. It took a year to do this experiment but it showed it could be done.

im invisible · 24-09-2011 7:18pm

Jev/N wrote: »

We are all travelling in time at the moment, the issue is the speed or the direction.

we are all travelling at the speed of light, through space-time, the faster we go through space, the slower we go through time

ejmaztec · 24-09-2011 7:20pm

4leto wrote: »

I always hated and flunked Temporal physics back at Starfleet Academy:(

If only I could go back forward and do them again.

I came back in time and fixed your post. I hope I didn't fuck up the time-space continuum again.:(

4leto · 24-09-2011 7:22pm

It is possible, you would have to open a wormhole, say now in a Lab.

Now on the assumption that that wormhole generating machine was kept open in future generations. Then future generations would be able to send messages back to now as in the point the worm hole was open.

But not further back.

Phew there is smoke coming out of my ears.

Time travel makes no sense

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