Sustainable boozing

parc

After a few (about 8 or 9) beers on Saturday (over the course of about 6 hours) I woke up the next day with an all mighty-full hangover. Head thumping, puked, and really felt awful. They're hitting hard as I get older (though I'm not exactly old).

Is there any way to avoid these without actually, you know, giving up drinking. I have a few base rules learned from past hang-rovers that were even worse:

• Never ever drink on an empty stomach. I've found that you go on a session on an empty stomach, the next morning your blood-sugar levels are seriously low and you fell like you haven't got the strength to move. I've had hangovers where I literally couldn't get out of bed for a drink of water as I was so weak. Not good.
  
• Don't mix your drinks. I'm not even talking about wine before beer. On Saturday I just had 3 different beers which prompted my massive hangover. Stella didn't help either. I've also had hangovers so bad that I couldn't even hold down water the next morning along with not being able to move. Also drinking less is another good option

I've only had about 3 of these in my life and they are not good. Even the milder ones like the one I had after the weekend last a few days. Probably the worst thing is mentally I can't function. All good habits go out the window and it takes a few days to get back into a positive frame of mind, getting back to doing healthy things.

So basically I'm just wondering what tips people use to sustain these drinking sessions and not have such bad hangovers. Start drinking quality beers? Drink less? (Though Remember I am on a session, so I want to be merry). Note I only drink about twice a week, one of them being a proper session

chin_grin

Yeah drink less. :pac:

Pint of water between beers is good. Also never drink on an empty stomach.

df1985

how old are you?


8-9 beers isnt much for a big night out? (not trying to sound the big man but thats true for a lot of people)

Lando Griffin

One way to avoid a hangover is to keep drinking the whole night and up until lunch time the next day, then go to bed and hey presto next morning your as bright as a button.

Captain Darling

Sh1t and a roide.

ronan45

chin_grin wrote: »

Yeah drink less. :pac:

Pint of water between beers is good. Also never drink on an empty stomach.

But if i eat food before beering i dont get drunk and i want to get drunk thats the whole point of boozing

Pyr0

2/3 pints of water before bed, about 5/6 hours sleep.

Not a bother the next morning.

Hackysack

Drink a pint of water at around 1am. Have another one at around 3am and one more before you go to bed.

Really really helps the day after. It's how I prettymuch made it into work and functioned the day after the Dublin v Kerry final.

chin_grin

ronan45 wrote: »

But if i eat food before beering i dont get drunk and i want to get drunk thats the whole point of boozing

Someone needs an intervention. :pac:

Yeah sure the end product of drinking alcohol is getting drunk, but there are plenty who do it to socialise. If you wanted to drink to get drunk why don't you just stay at home with a slab?

Seachmall

There is no known way to cure a hangover. There are lots of old wives tales but no proven method. The best advice is to just drink a pint of water before going to bed to minimize dehydration.

ScumLord

Water, water, water. Keep drinking water throughout your drinking spree and you'll be able to drink twice as much for the same hangover. I think it's cheating though.

stargazer 68

df1985 wrote: »

how old are you?


8-9 beers isnt much for a big night out? (not trying to sound the big man but thats true for a lot of people)

Yeah I thought that and Im a girl!!

Professey Chin

df1985 wrote: »

how old are you?


8-9 beers isnt much for a big night out? (not trying to sound the big man but thats true for a lot of people)

I drink that much and Im absolutely totalled!
5/6 is probably my limit atm and even with that I might aswell write off the next day

--Kaiser--

I don't have any problem with mixing drinks, I do have an iron stomach though

babar2964

I'm wondering what the largest sustainable military to civilian ratio is. What factors does it depend on? Thanks.

Pride Fighter

Alcohol quality is something I'd recommend. Dont drink any of that budweiser muck and stick to clean German beers. I can drink lots of German beer and be fine. Also Carlsberg and Heineken from tap are brewed in the same vats in St. James' gate and taste foul. They are ok once they are in a bottle and brewed in their home country.

It's all about the quality IMO.

duke916

df1985 wrote: »

how old are you?


8-9 beers isnt much for a big night out? (not trying to sound the big man but thats true for a lot of people)

im 33 and if i had 8 or 9 beers id be well gone by then. im not a regular drinker. maybe 2 or three nights a month. but in fairness ive always been a girls blouse when it comes to drinking. then again i dont think id like to be goin out and having to spend over the odds just to feel a little merry.

..Brian..

+1 on the quality of the beer, makes a big difference.

But to reiterate the main points, don't drink on an empty stomach or your stomach will be in ribbons the next day and drink at least 2 or 3 pints of water throughout the night to combat dehydration and the thumping headache the next day.

I had a hangover once, because I hadn't drunk enough water the previous day. The end.

Fremen

This says it all, really:

Withnail wrote:

Right, here's the plan. First, we go in there and get wrecked, then we eat a pork pie, then we drop some Surmontil-50's each. That way we'll miss out on Monday and come up smiling Tuesday morning.

Edit:

bluewolf wrote: »

I had a hangover once, because I hadn't drunk enough water the previous day. The end.

Boozing. You're doing it wrong.

Fremen

Fremen wrote: »

Boozing. You're doing it wrong.

If "doing it right" means I must be in blinding pain the next day then... no thanks, I'm grand

geeky

babar2964 wrote: »

I'm wondering what the largest sustainable military to civilian ratio is. What factors does it depend on? Thanks.

yoyo

Bottles or pints, 8-9 pints to me in 6 hours would give me a fair hangover, I'm only 23 :S :P I'd have that over 8 or so hours and it wouldn't be too bad though depends if you lash them back hangover becomes worse :P

Nick

Big Nasty

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Alcohol quality is something I'd recommend. Dont drink any of that budweiser muck and stick to clean German beers. I can drink lots of German beer and be fine. Also Carlsberg and Heineken from tap are brewed in the same vats in St. James' gate and taste foul. They are ok once they are in a bottle and brewed in their home country.

It's all about the quality IMO.

Some German stuff is sh1te, I would also look at Belge and Czech beers.

Heineken is not brewed in St. James Gate or even by Diageo.

Water is definitely good before you hit the hay.

Exercise though is the key - if you exercise regularly you get rid of the build up of toxins in your body and a ganzee load of pints doesn't affect you all that badly the next day.

tl;dr?

Exercise, good beer, water - in that order!

Hande hoche!

babar2964 wrote: »

I'm wondering what the largest sustainable military to civilian ratio is. What factors does it depend on? Thanks.

Probably worth taking North Korea as a case study.

paddyandy

Parc : Tell me of one hangover free way of drinking that has'nt been tried???Hang around the local AA for a while.It's an education that should be on the School curriculum.No such thing as a hangover free drinking session.

Laisurg

df1985 wrote: »

how old are you?


8-9 beers isnt much for a big night out? (not trying to sound the big man but thats true for a lot of people)

Depends how fast you drink them, anyone who says they can have 8 or 9 pints over 2 hours or so and not be hammered is a liar.

parc

df1985 wrote: »

how old are you?


8-9 beers isnt much for a big night out? (not trying to sound the big man but thats true for a lot of people)

24

I know it's not that much...why the hell was I so hungover tho

I'll put it down to mixing them

With the pint of water thing though. One pint before you go to bed isn't enough imo. I think you need around 3 or 4. Interested in what quality beers makes the least hangover

sbsquarepants

After a miss spent and thuroughly enjoyed youth, at 36 i now find i'm starting to suffer some serious after effects to my beloved party lifestyle. I've recently to knock the chemicals on the head due to being unable to function afterwards and now i'm noticing i'm beginning to get hangovers, which i never did.
Time to start looking around for a nice pair of slippers i think.
Don't feel too bad OP - could happen to a bishop!:(

ScumLord

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Exercise though is the key - if you exercise regularly you get rid of the build up of toxins in your body and a ganzee load of pints doesn't affect you all that badly the next day.

I thought this whole idea of the body holding onto toxins had been debunked, why and where would the body hold onto all these toxins?

denhaagenite

Are we talking about 8- 9 pints?? That's a huge amount!! It's almost the weekly limit for men, and exceeds the weekly limit for women! It is binge drinking, pure and simple. I would probably have alcohol poisoning after that amount, be thankful that a hangover is all you get.

Maybe alcohol awareness should be on the school curriculum, although the information is on TV, radio and newspapers constantly and STILL no- one pays any attention to it.

parc

denhaagenite wrote: »

Are we talking about 8- 9 pints?? That's a huge amount!! It's almost the weekly limit for men, and exceeds the weekly limit for women! It is binge drinking, pure and simple. I would probably have alcohol poisoning after that amount, be thankful that a hangover is all you get.

Maybe alcohol awareness should be on the school curriculum, although the information is on TV, radio and newspapers constantly and STILL no- one pays any attention to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f68VXKMZT1Q

cherryghost

I haven't had a hangover in about 3 years because I drink a pint of water between every alcoholic drink

Cee-Jay-Cee

What works every time for me is a burger/chips before i go home, and 2 neurofen or solpadene before i go to bed. On the nights i'm too drunk to remember to get a bite to eat i will be near death the next day with the worst headache and upset stomach but when i eat before i go home, even when i've had a ****load of beer, the most i have to contend with is a fuzzy head and that usually clears up after a slice or two of toast and cup of tea.

Big Nasty

ScumLord wrote: »

I thought this whole idea of the body holding onto toxins had been debunked, why and where would the body hold onto all these toxins?

If you are a regular drinker toxins will build up in your body. Exercise helps to cleanse the body. Exercise = less hangovers.

Kanoe

have a captain and coke before you go home.

Monty Burnz

df1985 wrote: »

how old are you?


8-9 beers isnt much for a big night out? (not trying to sound the big man but thats true for a lot of people)

Without wanting to sound holier than thou, this is the problem with drink culture in Ireland (and Britain and a few other notables).

By any objective measure, 9 pints is a lot. It's approaching two bottles of wine. And the idea that it isn't a lot...

The way the Yanks are about eating giant plates of food that to anyone else is clearly mad and disgusting - that's us with booze.

cgpg5

I've noticed cutting down the number of cigarettes I have on a night out reduces the severity of my hangovers. I used to get huge cravings for cigarettes when I was drinking and used to always wake up the next morning with an awful taste in my mouth. Also, drinking water helps as does eating just before going out. Nothing worse than drinking on an empty stomach. As for hangover cures there is nothing better than exercise in my view. It sweats it out and while it may seem impossible at the time, I find even doing 5 slow lengths of a pool to be brilliant.
Granted, I feel I may be eating my words tomorrow though ha.

Balmed Out

I find the fitter i am the less hungover. If im doing very well with exercising and drink a pint of water before bed I dont seem to get a hangover at all and im 32.

Also yeah North korea and perhaps Burmah would, I imagine have pretty large military to civilian ratios.

This is an interesting thread.......

ScumLord

MCMLXXV wrote: »

If you are a regular drinker toxins will build up in your body. Exercise helps to cleanse the body. Exercise = less hangovers.

I'd give you exercise will equal less hangovers because your body is fitter and better able to repair itself but the toxins thing, what are the toxins and where do they build up? The only place I can think of where toxins would build up is the bladder and their supposed to build up there.

Temptamperu

JAysus all this talk of boozing is giving me a thirst.

denhaagenite

parc wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f68VXKMZT1Q

I can appreciate this BUT also think that the Irish making light of our national pasttime is really just sweeping the issue under the carpet. 8/ 9 pints is too many, and habitual drinking of 8/ 9 pints is alcoholism.

AgileMyth

denhaagenite wrote: »

Are we talking about 8- 9 pints?? That's a huge amount!!

No it isn't. Its a quiet night.

Big Nasty

ScumLord wrote: »

I'd give you exercise will equal less hangovers because your body is fitter and better able to repair itself but the toxins thing, what are the toxins and where do they build up? The only place I can think of where toxins would build up is the bladder and their supposed to build up there.

The liver?

parc

I also read somewhere that you shouldn't eat too much starchy food before boozing

Handy11

The method for bulletproofing is thus:

1. Drink 3 pints.

2. Eat the dinner.

3. Drink as much as you can for the rest of the night.

4. Make sure to eat something before bed (chips, or even a sandwich).

5. Drink a pint of water before bed.


If you do this, you'll never die too bad. I've surprised myself a couple of times this year by rocking the 3rd day of a session while keeping to the above rules (I thought I was past that kind of stamina at nearly 33).

Corvo

I just built up a resistance as such to hangovers (I had so many when I was younger) if you can call them that, because it is very rare that I would have a sick stomach or a pounding head. Usually just wrecked tired...and I mean dizzy tired. Could be called dehydration actually...

Anyway, heres my tips:

1) Some people can go out on an empty stomach (I can for some reason, the thoughts of beer and food is rotten). If you cant, dont. Simple. And eat well, like spuds and milk (not together obviously!!)

2) I dont smoke, until I'm pished. But my god, they can turn you bad the next morning. Cut down while drinking.

3) Dont eat any shyte from a chipper on the way home. Abra is the devil. Eat a sandwich when you get home. Try not to burn the place down. (This is the only time I can manage food)

4) Get a drink into you the next morning. Sometimes I just fling a can into me, or walk into the local and down a pint. Will cure you big time.

5) Dont mix drinks. I'm one of those people that likes every drink, and want to drink them all. But it can wreck you.

6) Know your limit. When I'm out, I'm out. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Id consume about 35-40 pints in that time. Along with shorts, and whatever gets us going at home, i.e. a few cans. Thats grand for me, but if you get stuck with others who can handle more or less, then back off. Drink at your own pace. Even some people Ive drank with could drink way more on top of that.

Thats not trying to be the big man, but different people have different bodies and stomachs etc. Just take it easy and see what yours prefers.

Raze_them_all

8 or 9 pints over 6 hours?? That's not drinking.

foxyboxer

Griffin1988 wrote: »

6) Know your limit. When I'm out, I'm out. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Id consume about 35-40 pints in that time. Along with shorts, and whatever gets us going at home, i.e. a few cans. Thats grand for me, but if you get stuck with others who can handle more or less, then back off. Drink at your own pace. Even some people Ive drank with could drink way more on top of that.
.

:eek:

40 pints in 3 days?
Say Heineken, that's 113.6 units. 9768 calories.

ScumLord

MCMLXXV wrote: »

The liver?

It is a filter but I don't think anything builds up there unless it's broken.

I'm trying to remember where I heard that, I'm pretty sure it was a Penn & Teller Bull**** show on alternative medicine. The doctor basically said this myth is pushed by the alternative medicine crowd but is pure bull****.

minidazzler

A hangover is part of the magic of drinking. It's what stops me drinking every night, long may they keep me crippled.