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CDfm wrote: »

In the sidelines you had some very interesting characters.
George Wallace, the Governor of Texas had his own assassination bid and subsequently recanted his segregationist views.

Believe me, Wallace was not on the sidelines. He was in the centre of the whole fray. He was Gov of Alabama, not Texas.
I can clearly remember seeing his 'segregation now...segregation forever' speech on the RTE news at the time. His vitriol went global.
When he became a born-again Christian in the 1970s he recanted his views.

Here's a link to the Alabama archives on Wallace.

http://www.archives.state.al.us/govs_list/g_wallac.html

CDfm wrote: »

LBJ had an interesting past and was not exactly a Texas Oldboy like George Bush -he is described as scotch-irish.

LBJ was much more authentically Texan that Bush ever was. LBJ came from a family of small farmers in Stonewall, Texas. Bush was a poser in that way and was actually the product of New England - born in Connecticut and educated at Yale and Harvard. His grandfather was US Senator from Massachusetts. It was the oil business that took George to Texas. Americans - especially political opponents - frequently pointed to Bush's phony Tex accent and 'rhinestone cowboy' outfits.

CDfm

Civil Rights at home , the US had gotten embtroilled in a mess in Vietnam where the French tried to regain their old colonies. Vietnam may seem far away but Germany was closer to home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH6nQhss4Yc

Kennedy's opposite number in Soviet Russia was Nikita Kruskev who had advanced thru the ranks during the Stalin era.

This was a time of conflict.

So how did they get on ?

Latchy

CDfm wrote: »

LBJ & JFK - did they get on.

LBJ wasn't fond of any of the Kennedys and he detested Bobby of which the feeling was mutual but his relationship with JFK was based on him accepting the vice presidency in liu for helping Kennedy get some southern votes . Kennedy looked down his nose at LBJ and kept him on a leash .

CDfm wrote: »

Civil Rights at home , the US had gotten embtroilled in a mess in Vietnam where the French tried to regain their old colonies. Vietnam may seem far away but Germany was closer to home.

If the French defeat wasn't enough to warn off the US before getting bogged down in Vietnam then the writing was on the wall and people in the goverment including some of the military, were warning against gettting involved in Vietnam .Secratary of state Ball was one saying in early 1962 '' if we send hundreds of thousends of American troops in to Vietnam , they will get lost in the jungle and we'll never find them again '' .

Kennedy's opposite number in Soviet Russia was Nikita Kruskev who had advanced thru the ranks during the Stalin era.

This was a time of conflict.

So how did they get on ?

The Vienna summit when Kennedy met Khrushchev is when the old east met young west and Kennedy quickly realised that this man was not going to be swayed by the Kenendy charm .

Khrushchev who was a master of contradictions and bluff ( something Kennedy would soon figure out for himself ) and was not very impressed by the young president knowing that the bay of pigs disaster was still fresh in the mind and had showed Kennedy as being weak .Khrushchev wen't straight for the jugular with his views which when the meetings eventually ended ,left kennedy by his own addmittence feeling that '' Khrushchev had walked all over him '' and came away knowing he needed to up his game in future disccussion .

Kennedys day would soon come with the Cuban Missile crisis and in Berlin with his famous '' Ich Bin Ein Berliner '' speech .