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john_cappa

Dtp79 wrote: »

False. Just put an appropriately sized vent on the external wall of the room where the stove is. This vent must be a permenantly open one

To clarify the stove is not on an external wall so no vent can be used through the wall. Also the stove is to be a room sealed stove for use with HRV system so no open vent can be used regardless.

Dtp79

john_cappa wrote: »

To clarify the stove is not on an external wall so no vent can be used through the wall. Also the stove is to be a room sealed stove for use with HRV system so no open vent can be used regardless.

Ah ok. An important bit of info ya left out in the original post!!

smallwonder

I had the central heating on timer and when I went to light my new boiler stove it was really warm and the pipes were roasting. Is this normal?

Robbie.G

smallwonder wrote: »

I had the central heating on timer and when I went to light my new boiler stove it was really warm and the pipes were roasting. Is this normal?

By right there should have been nonreturn valves fitted on stove to stop the oil heating circulating the stove.It will do no harm

Dtp79

smallwonder wrote: »

I had the central heating on timer and when I went to light my new boiler stove it was really warm and the pipes were roasting. Is this normal?

Def not normal and definately not right.

vertico

should all connections on a boiler stove be plumbed into the system or can 2 be closed off?

Dtp79

vertico wrote: »

should all connections on a boiler stove be plumbed into the system or can 2 be closed off?

Ideally all should be used but its not a must and not all situations are ideal

smallwonder

Dtp79 wrote: »

Def not normal and definately not right.

Confused now! I didn't think it was normal. Big waste of my oil I'm thinking. Is it a big job to get non-return valves put in?

Dtp79

smallwonder wrote: »

Confused now! I didn't think it was normal. Big waste of my oil I'm thinking. Is it a big job to get non-return valves put in?

Not a big job but it could be. God knows how bad the pipework u already have is if he didn't put in the most basic feature of a dual system. Any pics ?

john_cappa

john_cappa wrote: »

In a new build if the stove location is not on an external wall I gather you need to install a duct in the foundations to external air.

Is there special ducting for this? or what is used? Guy in shop said any ducting will do even sewer piping like for plumbing a toilet?

True or false?

Any one help with this? Can i just use sewer pipe in the floor to external air then connect my room sealed stove with the external air kit to the sewer pipe ducting?

smallwonder

Dtp79 wrote: »

Not a big job but it could be. God knows how bad the pipework u already have is if he didn't put in the most basic feature of a dual system. Any pics ?

I've attached a picture of the pipework and also a picture of the flue on the roof. I'm getting awful blow downs and was advised on here that I would probably need the flue to go higher. Any idea how much higher?
Thanks

Robbie.G

john_cappa wrote: »

Any one help with this? Can i just use sewer pipe in the floor to external air then connect my room sealed stove with the external air kit to the sewer pipe ducting?

That should be ok but just check with manufacturer most ducts have to finished with steel to stove see if you can find out min distance

Dtp79

smallwonder wrote: »

I've attached a picture of the pipework and also a picture of the flue on the roof. I'm getting awful blow downs and was advised on here that I would probably need the flue to go higher. Any idea how much higher?
Thanks

What length is your flue currently? Usually they are 1 metre lengths so easy to add up. As for the pipework, will need to see alot more including the cyclinder. Take the shots from a distance where the pic takes in as much as possible

Robbie.G

smallwonder wrote: »

I've attached a picture of the pipework and also a picture of the flue on the roof. I'm getting awful blow downs and was advised on here that I would probably need the flue to go higher. Any idea how much higher?
Thanks

The pic of the pipe work Unfortunitly tells nothing but the flue needs to be raised to a height above the ridge so looking at it I would say another metre I think I already advised this

smallwonder

Sorry about the useless pic of pipes...shows the extent of my knowledge! I hope this can provide more info.

Dtp79

smallwonder wrote: »

Sorry about the useless pic of pipes...shows the extent of my knowledge! I hope this can provide more info.

How many pipes are coming off the back of your stove? Also is you cyclinder a dual coil?

kerb

hi all

can any recomend a 20kw to 25kw insert boiler stove with about 4kw to room and 16 to 20kw to hot water and rads looking for some thing like this

http://www.stovecentre.ie/product.php?id_product=249


thanks alot

smallwonder

Dtp79 wrote: »

How many pipes are coming off the back of your stove? Also is you cyclinder a dual coil?

4 pipes from stove. I don't know about the cylinder but it was a new one put in for the stove so I assume its the right one

Dtp79

smallwonder wrote: »

4 pipes from stove. I don't know about the cylinder but it was a new one put in for the stove so I assume its the right one

Out of curiosity, when only the stove is going does the oil boiler heat up? Check after an hour or when the rads are hot

vertico

im looking at a few differrent stoves, can anyone recommend any of these as its a big investment for me
http://www.henleystoves.com/boiler-stoves/the-druid-30kw-stove
http://www.ukstoves.co.uk/product/37KW_EB_25_HE_Multi_Fuel_Boiler_Stove/
http://www.thestoveshop.ie/modules/store/Aarrow-Stratford-TF90B-24Kw-Multifuel-Boiler-Stove-18-to-20-Rad_P163268C13484.cfm

i live in a dormer and calculated and need nearly 30 kw ,, but i dont want a stove thats huge in size and takes a huge ammount of fuel.. at the moment i have a saey blenheim and it wont even heat downstairs

Mando Commando

Hi guys,

Quick quesion - looking for reasonably priced 4" flue bits and accessories for a diy camp/tent stove I made, having experimented unsuccessfully with various dodgy homemade alternatives. Everywhere I look online is offering vitreous enamel and so on but don't need that, looking for cheap and cheerful, doesn't have to be pretty - any ideas?

Robbie.G

Mando Commando wrote: »

Hi guys,

Quick quesion - looking for reasonably priced 4" flue bits and accessories for a diy camp/tent stove I made, having experimented unsuccessfully with various dodgy homemade alternatives. Everywhere I look online is offering vitreous enamel and so on but don't need that, looking for cheap and cheerful, doesn't have to be pretty - any ideas?

Your looking at basic single wall steel or stainless.Most flue makers will have something try MI flues or Oriel flues both are online

Mando Commando

Robbie.G wrote: »

Your looking at basic single wall steel or stainless.Most flue makers will have something try MI flues or Oriel flues both are online

Thanks for that, sent MI a message, here's hoping they have some 4" gear, all 5" and up on the site

bhamsteve

You are looking at large stoves there, have you calculated the cost of supplying 30KW worth of fuel on an ongoing basis? I'd be looking towards better insulation and zoning the heating depending on needs if I were you.

E.g. 30kw = 30kw stove x 12 hours per day x 4.5c/KWH (coal) at 75% efficiency
= €21 per day
6 hours @ €10.50 day etc

TLDR; spend a few hundred on insulation/ draught-proofing, thermostatic radiator valves in all rooms, thermal curtain liners etc, then reassess your heating needs. A 30+ KW stove will cost a lot to run.

vertico wrote: »

im looking at a few differrent stoves, can anyone recommend any of these as its a big investment for me
http://www.henleystoves.com/boiler-stoves/the-druid-30kw-stove
http://www.ukstoves.co.uk/product/37KW_EB_25_HE_Multi_Fuel_Boiler_Stove/
http://www.thestoveshop.ie/modules/store/Aarrow-Stratford-TF90B-24Kw-Multifuel-Boiler-Stove-18-to-20-Rad_P163268C13484.cfm

i live in a dormer and calculated and need nearly 30 kw ,, but i dont want a stove thats huge in size and takes a huge ammount of fuel.. at the moment i have a saey blenheim and it wont even heat downstairs

kilkern5

Just had a Blacksmith Furnace 30kw installed. Only learning at the moment but find that logs are burning very fast in it. When we close the dampers there is still high flames.
So far we have only burnt logs but intend to do a mixture of logs and coal as we think this may be more efficient and economical. Are we correct in this?
Also, we have noticed a small gap at the top where the doors meet. It appears that one of the doors is slightly warped. could this be a problem that needs to be addressed in order for it to work efficiently?

kilkern5

Just had a Blacksmith Furnace 30kw installed. Only learning at the moment but find that logs are burning very fast in it. When we close the dampers there is still high flames.
So far we have only burnt logs but intend to do a mixture of logs and coal as we think this may be more efficient and economical. Are we correct in this?
Also, we have noticed a small gap at the top where the doors meet. It appears that one of the doors is slightly warped. could this be a problem that needs to be addressed in order for it to work efficiently?

Robbie.G

kilkern5 wrote: »

Just had a Blacksmith Furnace 30kw installed. Only learning at the moment but find that logs are burning very fast in it. When we close the dampers there is still high flames.
So far we have only burnt logs but intend to do a mixture of logs and coal as we think this may be more efficient and economical. Are we correct in this?
Also, we have noticed a small gap at the top where the doors meet. It appears that one of the doors is slightly warped. could this be a problem that needs to be addressed in order for it to work efficiently?

If there is a gap at the doors this will let the stove suck air in causing faster burn.
If the doors are warped this is a warranty issue contact your supplier

kilkern5

Thanks for that reply.
Yes I think we must do something as smoke is also escaping into the room.

Robbie.G

kilkern5 wrote: »

Thanks for that reply.
Yes I think we must do something as smoke is also escaping into the room.

Get it looked at and if you don't currently have get a carbon monoxide alarm fitted a must with all stove installs

Tinder

Hi folks,

I'm back again. Had picked out the Hanley Achill Boiler insert stove and am about to make the purchase but am having second thoughts! the reason being is the whole China steel issue.

So the second option is the Firebird Troy multifuel inset stove.

Question is does anyone have experience of this stove or offer another Irish made/ manufactured stove that meets the european standard of cast Iron.

Cheers
T