DCG Project 2012

Sarah?

Thread for all discussion on this year's DCG project. :pac:

Higher Level Brief - perfume/aftershave bottle

Ordinary Level Brief - desk tidy

So, what do ye think?

HigginDazs

I'm not too happy with it tbh =/. It would be a lot easier to modify or come up with a new concept for something electronic, like they did in the last few years. I'm finding it hard enough to figure out how to get at least 5 parts for the Solidworks section...

crazy cabbage

i think it is a good idea for a project. the last few years students simply put mp3's, usb and dvd players and bluetooth ect into everything which isn't really teck graph (at least that is what i did and it worked ). that is more techonology. at least this year it is a purly design project which is what it is what the subject is all about all about.

ImpossibleDuck

Well fair enough point but from a LC student's point of view, this is far more difficult than previous years. I mean, a bottle has one function; it always has. There have never been any problems with it and it has rarely been improved because there's no need to. Therefore, this it's going to be really hard to think of good ideas. I hope next year's is a re-invention of the wheel...

I'm really worried about this project now. Gonna be really hard

Sarah?

I think it'll really suit the arty students, it's a far more creative option than last year's, which was hard to redesign.

But, the SolidWorks will be a nightmare. Most perfume bottles aren't very geometric, and on top of that I don't know how you can get loads of parts from a bottle, they only have a few unlike the sat navs which had many possibilities for loads of parts.



Does anyone have the full brief that they can put up? (With details for each output too.)

Qwerty?

Heres the full brief.

Eurovisionmad

I'm not envying ye, the perfume bottle is very constricted in what you can do with it, and what parts you can add, glad I'm not doing the LC until next year, dream assignment: Smartphone!

shlong

Seriously now... has anyone found a bottle with five seperate parts for the solidworks section????

crazy cabbage

shlong wrote: »

Seriously now... has anyone found a bottle with five seperate parts for the solidworks section????

off the top of my head there is the glass bottle part, the cap, the sprayer thing(could possible get 2 parts out of that), the tube that goes inot the liquid and possible a ring thing that stops it from leeking.

Sarah?

shlong wrote: »

Seriously now... has anyone found a bottle with five seperate parts for the solidworks section????

@crazy cabbage is right, you can get five parts from most of them, it's just that it's very hard to get any more than five parts.

Qwerty?

Sarah? wrote: »

@crazy cabbage is right, you can get five parts from most of them, it's just that it's very hard to get any more than five parts.

Don't be looking for more than 5 parts- 5 is all you need. So be happy that you don't need to model more than 5.

GV_NRG

i wont lie, i wouldnt like to be doing this project, but it is very manageable if you start now and work through because you do not want to end up like we did and not do anything for the 1st two months and leave it all build up! :O a thought that just struck me there is that i get the feeling they want curves to be present in your design, because curves is a more advanced technique and it will not only make your piece alot better looking but it will stand out more from the other designs! might i suggest the loft tool... best of look guys!

sheep2bull

any ideas for output 1 anyone.

mark11original

The pump which sprays the perfume is made up of at least 5 parts.

Sarah?

There's a really useful guide to the project here...

Scroll down to the bottom of the page to where it says "guide to the student assignment" and you can download it for free.

dg647

I think that this is a very good project. For the last number of years kids have spent away too much time worrying about the Solidworks and trying to do get far too many parts. If they ask for 5 parts give them 5. Sweep and loft will be the tools that you will need to use for this project I would think.

For the part b I would stay away from the modification. As has been already mentioned there is not a lot that you can change about the bottle. A concept design is definitely the way to go. Pick a theme, something from nature perhaps and develop that idea. Just off the top of my head, I would be thinking something along the lines of a flower/ the shape of the eye/ an animal etc. This is the way the examiners want you to go. They want to assess your design/development skills, not see how many solar panels, USB ports etc that you can fit on a product!!

Best of luck with it.

Seeker of Truth

Do bodysprays or hairsprays count as fragrance bottles? We have a load of them at home, but I'm not sure whether to use them or not.

coxy 132

just saw your project as a person who has done this and got an A
i must say you have got a very easy project to do,
all the bottel are easy to make, and the spray top is easly done too and easy to get parts from,

very easy to get a A in this project
for part just pick something and make the bottl look like it like a leaf

RHunce

If anyone wants my project from last year PM me and I'll email the pdf, I got an A1 this year and I'm gone on to study to teach DCG.

DeBlanka

Does the whole project has to be done on the school computers? I understand that the SolidWorks might have to be done there but I want my photoshop for the presentation! Screw Publisher
Cheers!

AKS

You've got a tough one. Last year's was quite easy to redesign, and I've seen a lot of innovative, eye catching GPSs. Lots of parts too. This one...

AKS

DeBlanka wrote: »

Does the whole project has to be done on the school computers? I understand that the SolidWorks might have to be done there but I want my photoshop for the presentation! Screw Publisher
Cheers!

3d models have to be done on the computers. They can check where they were made, somehow. All 2d stuff can be made on photoshop at home. That's what I was doing till good old adobe decided to die on me.

Mayo_Boy

What should I write beside each of the headings (themes,colour,shape etc.) in output 1?

stevomc50

How may parts does your concept design have to be.... i'm at 3 but i have a niggling feeling that its supposed 2 be five.... plz help

AnamGlas

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

What should I write beside each of the headings (themes,colour,shape etc.) in output 1?

I'm after blending the theme, shape, features etc into one paragraph... Are the rest of ye doing it differently?

stevomc50 wrote: »

How may parts does your concept design have to be.... i'm at 3 but i have a niggling feeling that its supposed 2 be five.... plz help

Has to be at least 5, as far as I know.

stevomc50

damn, need a new concept design

Amstar

Seeker of Truth wrote: »

Do bodysprays or hairsprays count as fragrance bottles?

I wouldn't think that a body spray as in a deodorant or a hair spray would count as a fragrance. Id stick to perfumes and aftershaves if I were you.

Mayo_Boy

How far are people with this?
I haven't even finished output 1 yet

AnamGlas

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

How far are people with this?
I haven't even finished output 1 yet

Just finished output 1... messy

orla52

RHunce wrote: »

If anyone wants my project from last year PM me and I'll email the pdf, I got an A1 this year and I'm gone on to study to teach DCG.

hi could u send it on to me fr ideas please

darren95

I was wondering how your going to get the dimensions of the bottles?

fatal1ty

darren95 wrote: »

I was wondering how your going to get the dimensions of the bottles?

You gotta find them yourself, by measuring the bottle. Or if you're working with internet pictures, try find many angles of the one bottle, and make an educated guess.

DoBhrionn

Quite a few people in my class are finding this quite difficult already. Being an all guys school, it's not exactly what we usually read up about or understand.
Although it's difficult, I like it from a design point of view, there's so many different designs out there you can't go wrong with making new concept or re-designing a current bottle. The same with comparing two different bottles.

For measuring I used a Vernier calipers/height gauge, works wonders for accuracy.

orla52

any ideas for output 1 and 2??? was thinking off drawing a perfect bottle spraying out and in d spray there are other perfumes ???

fatal1ty

orla52 wrote: »

was thinking off drawing a perfect bottle spraying out and in d spray there are other perfumes ???

Like, there will be more than one fragrance in the bottle?

orla52

fatal1ty wrote: »

Like, there will be more than one fragrance in the bottle?

well i was thinkin of 1 fragrance spray and while d spray comes out so does other perfume bottles and then brief history etc on them

fatal1ty

orla52 wrote: »

well i was thinkin of 1 fragrance spray and while d spray comes out so does other perfume bottles and then brief history etc on them

I reckon that would make a very good concept. All I can say, is pictures, pictures, pictures. it's REALLY important to pack your project with a lot of pictures and sketches.

RHunce

Think I'm going to do the DCG project myself this year for sh!ts and giggles on top of a fairly hefty work load I already have at college. Yes, I'm an ape like that.

Aibrean

hi there,
this year i have the DCG project to do! i was wondering for any of ye that have already done the project are u allowed put pictures from the internet in the booklet or is just free-hand sketches?!?!

jumpguy

Aibrean wrote: »

hi there,
this year i have the DCG project to do! i was wondering for any of ye that have already done the project are u allowed put pictures from the internet in the booklet or is just free-hand sketches?!?!

Merged your post here, where you might get more response.

RHunce

Aibrean wrote: »

hi there,
this year i have the DCG project to do! i was wondering for any of ye that have already done the project are u allowed put pictures from the internet in the booklet or is just free-hand sketches?!?!

Both! But you have to reference where you got your pictures from if you have taken them from the net. This can be done in the bibliography at the end of the project and doesn't count as one of your sheets or outputs.

Qwerty?

RHunce wrote: »

Both! But you have to reference where you got your pictures from if you have taken them from the net. This can be done in the bibliography at the end of the project and doesn't count as one of your sheets or outputs.

However you get more marks for photos you take yourself or sketches of the bottles as both of these are primary research. Photos from the internet are secondary research.

RHunce

Qwerty? wrote: »

However you get more marks for photos you take yourself or sketches of the bottles as both of these are primary research. Photos from the internet are secondary research.

Regardless, every photo/image/sketch should be referenced.

dnbutler

hi there! i noticed that in the brief for the perfume bottle one, there is alot of emphasis on appearance, "shape,form,features,themes,target market,presentation" so i don't think you'd have to try and edit the functional properties of the bottle, but more the appearance to aim it a specific aged group in the market, which is alot more, broad i guess :eek: what i cant figure out is for the design features, im not sure when to start cause the Egyptians used some form of bottle for their perfume.

beargrylls93

RHunce wrote: »

Regardless, every photo/image/sketch should be referenced.

well , i did it last year and my mod was on the basis of a perfume bottle ...... if anyone wants an idea of an outlay of it ill send them my project ...... btw i got an a1

Huho

Anyone have any ideas for the first 2 outputs?

cookier

I did this project last year if anyone wants a copy of it pm me your email please.. i got an a1 in it.

mr.stonewall

dnbutler wrote: »

hi there! i noticed that in the brief for the perfume bottle one, there is alot of emphasis on appearance, "shape,form,features,themes,target market,presentation" so i don't think you'd have to try and edit the functional properties of the bottle, but more the appearance to aim it a specific aged group in the market, which is alot more, broad i guess :eek: what i cant figure out is for the design features, im not sure when to start cause the Egyptians used some form of bottle for their perfume.

A mind map/ spider graph looking at the areas mentioned in the brief would be a great idea in output1
Take pictures of two contrasting Perfume bottles (side by side) for output2 and discuss them would lead you to cover alot of bases, dont forget to look at the the areas mentioned in the brief here

Mayo_Boy

Whats meant to be on the "investigation" page of output 1?

Irish94

Where is everybody getting the history of perfumes for the timelines?

shlong

I regret saying i didnt have enough parts.. It was like karma biting me in the arse. Thought i was done my solidworks... five parts sortedd. Teacher got at my atomiser today with a pliers and bam.... i count 10 pieces left to do!