Emirates to launch daily service to Dublin

pclive

From emirates.com

DUBAI, U.A.E., 8th September 2011: Emirates announced today that it will begin daily flights to Dublin from January 2012, marking its first route to the Republic of Ireland.

The daily service, from 9th January next year, will leave Dubai at 0700hrs and arrive in the Irish capital at 1130hrs. The return flight leaves Dublin at 1255hrs and gets into Dubai at 0025hrs the next day. An Airbus A330-200 will be deployed between Dubai and Dublin, offering First, Business and Economy class.

"Dublin will be our 29th route in Europe and Emirates' customers in Ireland who currently travel through some of our UK gateways will be able to fly non-stop to our industry leading hub in Dubai and conveniently connect onwards to our broadening route network," said His Highness Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al Maktoum, Chairman and Chief Executive, Emirates Airline and Group. "We see strong potential in Ireland through its industry, technology, tourism and the huge number of Irish nationals living overseas."

Ireland has a population of around 4.5 million, but it's estimated more than 15 times that live overseas, including somewhere in the region of 80,000 Irish nationals in Australia and about 5,000 in the UAE. Other key markets are predicted to include Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, India, South Africa, Hong Kong and New Zealand.

The Republic is a popular tourist destination and last year received 6.7 million visitors, drawn by the rich ancient history, spectacular countryside, traditional Irish music, thousands of miles of scenic coastline and renowned fresh air.

drdeadlift

Another a330-200 plane spotting just isnt much use at Dublin..

dubberdo

I'm sure tech facilities must play a part in type selection at any destination. Dublin wouldn't be short personnel or spares when it comes to the A330...

drdeadlift

Plenty of em in dub alright

Stinicker

Great news will end Etihad's practical monopoly on Eastward longhaul flights from Dublin which are between €200 - €250 more expensive than the same Etihad flight from the UK. I'd rather fly Emirates from Dublin and get the A380 from Dubai onwards to Oz or Asia than fly through the UK to get onto an Etihad or Emirates flight anyway.

I wonder will Emirates now scramble to sponsor some GAA team or the like? As Etihad have done. They'll do well on connecting flights to Australia I reckon and Aer Lingus are missing a huge trick here that they don't have some longhaul ac to do the route.

GoGoGadget

Stinicker wrote: »

I reckon and Aer Lingus are missing a huge trick here that they don't have some longhaul ac to do the route.

Yeah surprised they didn't get back into it earlier, they used to fly to Dubai but dropped it in 2007 to focus on USA routes under 'Open Skies'. Market could be saturated if they come in now and have 3 operators doing the route.

EchoIndia

drdeadlift wrote: »

Another a330-200 plane spotting just isnt much use at Dublin..

I have read elsewhere that the Emirates A330s are to be phased out within the next few years, so as long as the service prospers, another type (probably B777) will be used in due course.

donkey balls

Was talking to an aul work colleague of mine before the announcement was made and EK could be looking at doing an TA flight considering the ore clearance facility we have at Dub,Going slighty of topic did Air India make up there minds regarding have Dub as a base for TA flights.

Stinicker

This may one day in the future herald an A380 service into Dublin I suppose if the DAA ever gets around to building a new longer runway or extending the existing one. Emirates will eventually have 90 A380's in the future and the A380 apparently requires the same runway length as the Boeing 747, yet 747's operate into Dublin with freight and the occasional charter (was there one for the Uefa cup final) and Aer Lingus used the older 747 for years.

Sorry for going OT but what infrastructure would be needed for Emirates to run the A380 to Dublin if for arquements sake the passenger numbers were high and warranted it?

New Runway or extend the old one?

Is there any stands on T2 A380 ready or did the typical Irish myopic attitude prevail?

Anything else?

pclancy

Nice, this is great news for those of us down in OZ and NZ. Should hopefully cut the cost of going home and reduce the number of connections.

highlydebased

Stinicker wrote: »

This may one day in the future herald an A380 service into Dublin I suppose if the DAA ever gets around to building a new longer runway or extending the existing one. Emirates will eventually have 90 A380's in the future and the A380 apparently requires the same runway length as the Boeing 747, yet 747's operate into Dublin with freight and the occasional charter (was there one for the Uefa cup final) and Aer Lingus used the older 747 for years.

Sorry for going OT but what infrastructure would be needed for Emirates to run the A380 to Dublin if for arquements sake the passenger numbers were high and warranted it?

New Runway or extend the old one?

Is there any stands on T2 A380 ready or did the typical Irish myopic attitude prevail?

Anything else?

A 747 to Dubai would operate with no problem at all

Similarly an A380 probably would too, just might not want to have to stop in a hurry!

The main problem for the A380 is taxiways and stands, and AFAIK I did hear 1 stand at T2 is capable of handling an A380, I may well be wrong on that

donkey balls

When we were building our new hub about 10yrs ago the stands were designed bigger for the A380F and some other hubs had the taxi way extended along with some of the RWY,I know a guy who works in LHR and he told me that they got a new push back tug just for the new bus.

Plowman

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Jamie2k9

T2 has one stand that can serve A380.

Mister Jingles

Have to agree with Plowman here.

Not that Dublin will ever see an A380 (although I wouldn't hold my breath) but I don't think it would be put into regular service here as the demand wouldn't be there. I would say that the biggest aircraft that Dublin will eventually see on an regular bases would be either the 773 or/and A350-1000 depending if the runway it upgraded or not.

Hannibal

GoGoGadget wrote: »

Yeah surprised they didn't get back into it earlier, they used to fly to Dubai but dropped it in 2007 to focus on USA routes under 'Open Skies'. Market could be saturated if they come in now and have 3 operators doing the route.

I heard off a cabin crew friend that Emirates offered Aer Lingus a codeshare on this route. So all EI had to do was to operate the route to Dubai and Emirates would then take over to forward the pax to Australia etc but when EI sent their reps to Dubai they sent them along on one of their older 330's and Emirates said that this wasn't good enough for their pax and it was below their standards so they pulled the plug and decided to operate the route themselves from Dublin.

Stinicker

Dotsey wrote: »

I heard off a cabin crew friend that Emirates offered Aer Lingus a codeshare on this route. So all EI had to do was to operate the route to Dubai and Emirates would then take over to forward the pax to Australia etc but when EI sent their reps to Dubai they sent them along on one of their older 330's and Emirates said that this wasn't good enough for their pax and it was below their standards so they pulled the plug and decided to operate the route themselves from Dublin.

Talk about putting your best foot forward.

highlydebased

Dotsey wrote: »

I heard off a cabin crew friend that Emirates offered Aer Lingus a codeshare on this route. So all EI had to do was to operate the route to Dubai and Emirates would then take over to forward the pax to Australia etc but when EI sent their reps to Dubai they sent them along on one of their older 330's and Emirates said that this wasn't good enough for their pax and it was below their standards so they pulled the plug and decided to operate the route themselves from Dublin.

Considering all the A330's are of same standard now that story is either untrue or highly old

drdeadlift

With fitting the 380 in Dublin airport.
The a340-600 aswell as the 773 has used this airport before.
The taxiway limitations- Is it the distance between taxiways or the taxi ways width? Would there be issues exiting 28 onto e6 or e7?
Am i right in thinking the a346 will have more maneuvering issues than the a380 given its length and distance between nose wheel and rear.
When lax has arriving 380s the airport has to alter traffic for 15 or so mins that surely wouldn't be an issue for dub.
So is it the extra 3 meters either side on the wings the main issue,im nearly 100% sure 2600m runway wouldn't be a problem depending on lad but filling the seats might be.
How long would it take to complete a runway extention to 28(200m either end)? with the amount of dollars we havent got the new runway wont be happening soon.

Hannibal

highlydebased wrote: »

Considering all the A330's are of same standard now that story is either untrue or highly old

One of them is older than the rest. There's one with that doesn't have tv screens on the seatback and it is hanging up in the cabin. That's the plane they sent their delegation over on and Emirates weren't happy so pulled the plug on negotiations

Mister Jingles

Dotsey wrote: »

One of them is older than the rest. There's one with that doesn't have tv screens on the seatback and it is hanging up in the cabin. That's the plane they sent their delegation over on and Emirates weren't happy so pulled the plug on negotiations

What a very Irish thing to do :rolleyes:

drdeadlift

Mister Jingles wrote: »

What a very Irish thing to do :rolleyes:

Could be a million reasons as to why the older model was sent.There is alot to running an airline.

BuffyBot

Dotsey wrote: »

One of them is older than the rest. There's one with that doesn't have tv screens on the seatback and it is hanging up in the cabin. That's the plane they sent their delegation over on and Emirates weren't happy so pulled the plug on negotiations

That's been gone out of the fleet for some time. Plus (even if they had an A330 to spare for a jaunt to Dubai and back) why would they fly it all the way over there just so Emirates could have a look. If anything, Emirates would be more likely to send their staff over to check EI over. The story makes no sense.

drdeadlift

BuffyBot wrote: »

That's been gone out of the fleet for some time. Plus (even if they had an A330 to spare for a jaunt to Dubai and back) why would they fly it all the way over there just so Emirates could have a look. If anything, Emirates would be more likely to send their staff over to check EI over. The story makes no sense.

Makes sense,with the size some deals between airlines are worth 100 tons or so of fuel is an insignificant amount.You need to fuss over things from time to time

urajoke

drdeadlift wrote: »

Makes sense,with the size some deals between airlines are worth 100 tons or so of fuel is an insignificant amount.You need to fuss over things from time to time

+4 pilots, handling charges, maintenance, ATC fee's etc etc. Oh double the amount of fuel and you are close. All that for a code share:rolleyes:

This never happened, story came from Cabin crew... yeah that makes it instantaneously believable.

It would have been far cheaper for Emirates to a have flown a few suits over to talk to Aerlingus and see the aircraft. 5 minutes on the net would have shown you the inside of an EI A330.

drdeadlift

urajoke wrote: »

+4 pilots, handling charges, maintenance, ATC fee's etc etc. Oh double the amount of fuel and you are close. All that for a code share:rolleyes:

This never happened, story came from Cabin crew... yeah that makes it instantaneously believable.

It would have been far cheaper for Emirates to a have flown a few suits over to talk to Aerlingus and see the aircraft. 5 minutes on the net would have shown you the inside of an EI A330.

Did i post a link to the actual event? I never claimed for it to be fact.

Aerlingus are up the ****ters.Emirates are growing quickly,if there would be a long term deal done between the two im sure the ..+4 pilots, handling charges, maintenance, ATC fee's etc etc would be insignificant compared to the survival of the company.

Gael23

I assume that this will cut the cost and time in travelling to Australia. If theres not a big diffrence then i'd rather take the A380 from LHR.

highlydebased

ryanf1 wrote: »

I assume that this will cut the cost and time in travelling to Australia. If theres not a big diffrence then i'd rather take the A380 from LHR.

Well you still need to change planes in Dubai regardless of whether you go from LHR or not!

airsofter.adam

its a shame that they're all using the A330's for long range:/ all the long range aircraft you see at dublin is the A330's

Gael23

highlydebased wrote: »

Well you still need to change planes in Dubai regardless of whether you go from LHR or not!

I know but only one change at dubai instead of 2 if you go through LHR.

dannyirish06

EI don't have any of the old aircraft with the old fitting since August 2009 when EI-DUB and EI-JFK were retired. at that time EI-ORD had already had the refit so was up to current standards before it was disposed of so i find this story unture. I know that this was however the case before EI operate DUB-DXB, they wanted codeshare with EK and it was a possibility. It had basically been put in place for 13 or so connections until one of the old aircraft was placed on the maiden DUB-DXB flight and then Emirates pull all intentions all together.

Tenger

urajoke wrote: »

......This never happened, story came from Cabin crew... yeah that makes it instantaneously believable......

The story of that deal collapsing didn't come from cabin crew, Dotsy said that he/she heard it from EI cabin crew. Cabin crew would never have been privy to that info, it came from mgmt sources.

The CEO in place at the time (Mannion) was there specifically to start Eastward expansion which he then fecked up.

Bessarion

BuffyBot wrote: »

....... Plus (even if they had an A330 to spare for a jaunt to Dubai and back) why would they fly it all the way over there just so Emirates could have a look. If anything, Emirates would be more likely to send their staff over to check EI over. The story makes no sense.

No-one said anything about 'an A330 going on a jaunt' to DXB. The story (which makes no sense to you) concerns the inaugural flight DUB-DXB with EK staff who had flown to DUB for pre-signing meetings with EI. Previous to this time EI were well regarded in the aviation industry. And as stated above EI were changing their product at the time. So the EK reps, I assume were expecting something different to what the actually got.


Haven't you ever meet someone on a night out, got a snog and a phone number. Then you arrange a date, meet her/him and then realise that your memory of the 1st night wasn't quite as good as you thought?

David086

Slightly off topic but what are Aer Lingus going to do with their new A350's? They're hardly going to replace the A330's which are practically new.

urajoke

No-one said anything about 'an A330 going on a jaunt' to DXB.

Sorry but Dotsey said in post 16 :

when EI sent their reps to Dubai they sent them along on one of their older 330's

The story (which makes no sense to you)

That's the part of the story we DIDN'T understand ! As quoted above, when we read it at the time it was posted it made no sense. Now having been clarified by others it makes sense.

Haven't you ever meet someone on a night out, got a snog and a phone number. Then you arrange a date, meet her/him and then realise that your memory of the 1st night wasn't quite as good as you thought?

Who hasn't, it's called beer goggles.

CaptainSkidmark

Well it will serve the A350... Just not in 2014 as expected

Ekdxb

As expat staff based at DXB, it's great to hear about the new route. As with nearly all our new routes, it starts out with the Minibus 330, with an eventual upgrade to the 777 depending on load factor. With more A380 routes launching every few months it should enable 777's to be redeployed. Early days yet though!

However if it's inflight entertainment your after, the A330's still have the old seatback system which is not on demand in Y class, unlike the rest of the fleet.

Chris P. Bacon

Ekdxb wrote: »

However if it's inflight entertainment your after, the A330's still have the old seatback system which is not on demand in Y class, unlike the rest of the fleet.

What do you mean by "seatback"?,im thinking of booking them in January,i presume in not having on demand means i wont get to pick what movies i can watch?

Plowman

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Chris P. Bacon

Plowman wrote: »

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Thanks,yeah i kinda thought that was what they meant.

I think ill stick with Etihad so,there in flight entertainment is great.

dfx-

drdeadlift wrote: »

The a340-600 aswell as the 773 has used this airport before.

A340-600? Whom did it belong to? Would love to have seen that

Plowman

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Tenger

dfx- wrote: »

A340-600? Whom did it belong to? Would love to have seen that

Mostly diversions due weather/tech/medical, also the use of DUB mx facilities (SRT, Dublin Aerospace, Eirtech)
Here you go:

Virgin A346: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tearbringer/5278087114/
Virgin A346: http://www.flickr.com/photos/namcys11/4884329725/
Lan Chile A343: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24101413@N03/3264758524/
Lufthansa A343: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tearbringer/2946608003/
Egyptian Govt: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aerphoto/6144712184/
Wonderful VIP A346: http://www.flickr.com/photos/elevationair/4768788729/

Ekdxb

Chris P. Bacon wrote: »

Thanks,yeah i kinda thought that was what they meant.

I think ill stick with Etihad so,there in flight entertainment is great.

Yes sorry guys, It is an individual screen for each seat, with a selection of tv, movies, and music, along with Airshow flight information channel, but on a loop system.

The 330's were due to be phased out sometime ago hence it lacks our ICE on demand system with 600 channels, and on our latest aircraft ICE Digital Widescreen with 1200 channels.

Very surprised they announced it as a 3 class configuration, as I didnt think Ireland would have a Market for a First class product these days. Rumours around HQ prior to the press release were that it would just be Business and Economy offered, similar to our Abu Dhabi based friends.

Tenger

Ekdxb wrote: »

Very surprised they announced it as a 3 class configuration, as I didnt think Ireland would have a Market for a First class product these days. Rumours around HQ prior to the press release were that it would just be Business and Economy offered, similar to our Abu Dhabi based friends.

I agree but perhaps the had an easier job of freeing up a 3 class A330 over a 2 class?

sharkman

Ekdxb wrote: »

Yes sorry guys, It is an individual screen for each seat, with a selection of tv, movies, and music, along with Airshow flight information channel, but on a loop system.

The 330's were due to be phased out sometime ago hence it lacks our ICE on demand system with 600 channels, and on our latest aircraft ICE Digital Widescreen with 1200 channels.

Very surprised they announced it as a 3 class configuration, as I didnt think Ireland would have a Market for a First class product these days. Rumours around HQ prior to the press release were that it would just be Business and Economy offered, similar to our Abu Dhabi based friends.

Any idea who the preferred handler in Dublin will be ??

dubrov

Does anyone know when it will be possible to book flights with these guys?

The website is terrible and the booking page (which I eventually found) doesn't allow Dublin to be set as a departure point

http://www.emirates.com/uk/english/plan_book/plan_and_book.aspx

IrishB.ie

dubrov wrote: »

Does anyone know when it will be possible to book flights with these guys?

The website is terrible and the booking page (which I eventually found) doesn't allow Dublin to be set as a departure point

http://www.emirates.com/uk/english/plan_book/plan_and_book.aspx

Try this one

http://www.emirates.com/ie/english/plan_book/plan_and_book.aspx

dubrov

Cheers for that.

That link at least allows me to search for flights but I cannot see prices or book.

The "Make a booking" link still doesn't allow Dublin as a departure airport

http://fly1.emirates.com/IBE/SearchAvailability.aspx

Jamie2k9

flights on sale via UK site and will be on irish one soon. Return fares from €509

dannyirish06

in response to Sharkman, Emirates are handling themselves at DUB.